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Subject line so it is more specific<BR>than "Re: Contents of Koha-devel digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's Topics:<BR><BR> 1. Re: [QA] QA Team Meeting - Cancelled and new poll (Kyle Hall)<BR> 2. Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x? (Vimal Kumar V.)<BR> 3. Re: Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x? (Mirko)<BR> 4. Re: [Koha] Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x?<BR> (Mark Tompsett)<BR> 5. Re: [Koha] Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x?<BR> (Tomas Cohen Arazi)<BR><BR><BR>----------------------------------------------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 06:37:46 -0400<BR>From: Kyle Hall <<a ymailto="mailto:kyle.m.hall@gmail.com" href="javascript:return">kyle.m.hall@gmail.com</a>><BR>To: Mason James <<a ymailto="mailto:mtj@kohaaloha.com" href="javascript:return">mtj@kohaaloha.com</a>><BR>Cc: "<a
ymailto="mailto:koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org" href="javascript:return">koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a>"<BR> <<a ymailto="mailto:koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org" href="javascript:return">koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a>><BR>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] [QA] QA Team Meeting - Cancelled and new<BR> poll<BR>Message-ID:<BR> <CACpVHfwJT+<a ymailto="mailto:knU25GEb2NCNe6BY-3RxBW9iY3mURZmV_C9MWJcA@mail.gmail.com" href="javascript:return">knU25GEb2NCNe6BY-3RxBW9iY3mURZmV_C9MWJcA@mail.gmail.com</a>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Sept 3rd is fine by me!<BR><BR>Kyle<BR><BR><a href="http://www.kylehall.info" target=_blank >http://www.kylehall.info</a><BR>ByWater Solutions ( <a href="http://bywatersolutions.com " target=_blank >http://bywatersolutions.com </a>)<BR>Meadville Public Library ( <a href="http://www.meadvillelibrary.org " target=_blank
>http://www.meadvillelibrary.org </a>)<BR>Crawford County Federated Library System ( <a href="http://www.ccfls.org " target=_blank >http://www.ccfls.org </a>)<BR>Mill Run Technology Solutions ( <a href="http://millruntech.com " target=_blank >http://millruntech.com </a>)<BR><BR><BR>On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Mason James <<a ymailto="mailto:mtj@kohaaloha.com" href="javascript:return">mtj@kohaaloha.com</a>> wrote:<BR><BR>><BR>> On 2013-08-23, at 2:55 AM, Galen Charlton wrote:<BR>><BR>> > Hi,<BR>> ><BR>> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Katrin Fischer <<BR>> <a ymailto="mailto:katrin.fischer.83@web.de" href="javascript:return">katrin.fischer.83@web.de</a>> wrote:<BR>> > - Wednesday, 28th, 19 UTC<BR>> > - Tuesday, 3rd September, 19 UTC<BR>> ><BR>> > My preference is for September 3rd. I might be able to make the 28<BR>> August date, but most likely not.<BR>>
><BR>><BR>> hi All<BR>><BR>> i can't make the 28th, so Sept 3rd for me too :)<BR>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> Koha-devel mailing list<BR>> <a ymailto="mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org" href="javascript:return">Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a><BR>> <a href="http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel" target=_blank >http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel</a><BR>> website : <a href="http://www.koha-community.org/" target=_blank >http://www.koha-community.org/</a><BR>> git : <a href="http://git.koha-community.org/" target=_blank >http://git.koha-community.org/</a><BR>> bugs : <a href="http://bugs.koha-community.org/" target=_blank >http://bugs.koha-community.org/</a><BR>><BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <<a
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href="javascript:return">CAEaJrwXVm3e8833v1udhzdbWwNyJvDaXFDOe0MW7K3w-GZiKNw@mail.gmail.com</a>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR><BR>Dear Friends,<BR>I don't know why Release Maintainer of Koha 3.12.x always forgot to give<BR>the exact name of Live DVD manager in release notes!!!<BR><a href="http://koha-community.org/koha-3-12-4-released/" target=_blank >http://koha-community.org/koha-3-12-4-released/</a><BR><BR>I once again request to Release Manager to read once more roles for 3.12<BR>version.<BR><a href="http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.12" target=_blank >http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.12</a><BR><BR>I would like to get the reputation as Live DVD Manager.<BR>Like any other members in developers community, I had burned lot of my time<BR>to create Koha Live DVD for 3.12 version.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR>-- <BR>Vimal Kumar V.<BR>Technical Assistant<BR>Mahatma Gandhi University Library<BR>Kottayam, Kerala- 686
560<BR>Web: <a href="http://www.vimalkumar.info" target=_blank >http://www.vimalkumar.info</a><BR>Blog: <a href="http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com " target=_blank >http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com </a><a href="http://kohageek.blogspot.in" target=_blank >http://kohageek.blogspot.in</a><BR>---------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>"I forget what I was taught. I only remember what I have learnt"<BR>-Patrick White<BR>-------------- next part --------------<BR>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<BR>URL: <<a href="http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/attachments/20130826/7090cfd7/attachment-0001.html" target=_blank >http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/attachments/20130826/7090cfd7/attachment-0001.html</a>><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 3<BR>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:03:50 +0200<BR>From: Mirko <<a ymailto="mailto:5p4m@gmx.de"
href="javascript:return">5p4m@gmx.de</a>><BR>To: <a ymailto="mailto:koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org" href="javascript:return">koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a><BR>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x?<BR>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:521B8A76.3020201@gmx.de" href="javascript:return">521B8A76.3020201@gmx.de</a>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15<BR><BR>1. Stop crossposting to several Koha lists. It is annoying and will<BR>lead to people ignoring you. Choose the list you consider the one<BR>most applicable and send an email to that one list.<BR><BR>2. The release notes, like all release notes, contain the following:<BR><BR>> We regret any omissions. If a contributor has been inadvertently<BR>> missed, please send a patch against these release notes to <BR>> <a ymailto="mailto:koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org."
href="javascript:return">koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org.</a><BR><BR>Consider doing that instead of shouting at people.<BR><BR>-- Mirko<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 4<BR>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:06:49 -0400<BR>From: "Mark Tompsett" <<a ymailto="mailto:mtompset@hotmail.com" href="javascript:return">mtompset@hotmail.com</a>><BR>To: "Vimal Kumar V." <<a ymailto="mailto:vimal0212@gmail.com" href="javascript:return">vimal0212@gmail.com</a>><BR>Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org" href="javascript:return">koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a><BR>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] [Koha] Who is Live DVD manager of version<BR> 3.12.x?<BR>Message-ID: <<a ymailto="mailto:BLU172-DS12B5BBACE990B81C1E66F8C6490@phx.gbl" href="javascript:return">BLU172-DS12B5BBACE990B81C1E66F8C6490@phx.gbl</a>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed;
charset="iso-8859-1";<BR> reply-type=original<BR><BR>Greetings,<BR><BR>Putting aside the arguments for a live DVD, a couple good points have been <BR>made or implied, and probably should be reiterated:<BR>1) A 3.12.0 Live DVD doesn't constitute being part of the current team <BR>(3.12.3).<BR>2) Cross posting to koha and koha-devel is typically a bad idea.<BR>3) The effort to dump a single DVD every 6 or months does not compare to the <BR>effort put in by the release manager nor even the release maintainers.<BR>4) You can't get the title once and expect it forever.<BR><BR>You showed up on IRC once long ago, but don't visit. I have not seen you <BR>posting questions or answers in either the koha or koha-devel mailing lists. <BR>To be honest, VKV, how can you desire to be part of the community when the <BR>community doesn't see you as active?<BR><BR>If the role of Live DVD Manager/Maintainer is to be kept, and there are <BR>hints at
dumping it because the required effort is not being put forth, I <BR>would expect (at least):<BR>- Make a Live DVD iso no later than a week after every package release at <BR>latest. It is usually released within a week of the tarballs.<BR>- Be active on the IRC channel to stay aware of bugs and issues that are <BR>popping around. If you were on IRC, you could ask eythian yourself if the <BR>packages were ready.<BR>- Be active on the Koha mailing lists answering questions and even asking <BR>some occasionally.<BR>I'm sure others could chime in requirements. Given the general dislike of a <BR>Live DVD, because of the abuses that can (and most likely will) occur <BR>(running a Live DVD in a production system), you are going to have to work <BR>to earn the respect and title. You haven't been doing that, as far as I can <BR>tell.<BR><BR>I would also like to point out that this title has been given to someone <BR>else for 3.14.<BR><a
href="http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Roles_for_3.14" target=_blank >http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Roles_for_3.14</a><BR>However, they too have been as poorly active as you. That is probably why <BR>they are in the release notes. Your term ended with the release of 3.12.0.<BR><BR>The next koha meeting is September 11. <BR><a href="http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting,_11_September_2013" target=_blank >http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting,_11_September_2013</a><BR>Start attending the meetings regularly, even though the timezone shift gets <BR>inconvenient at times.<BR><BR>GPML,<BR>Mark Tompsett <BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message: 5<BR>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:14:46 -0300<BR>From: Tomas Cohen Arazi <<a ymailto="mailto:tomascohen@gmail.com" href="javascript:return">tomascohen@gmail.com</a>><BR>To: "Vimal Kumar V." <<a
ymailto="mailto:vimal0212@gmail.com" href="javascript:return">vimal0212@gmail.com</a>><BR>Cc: koha-devel <<a ymailto="mailto:koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org" href="javascript:return">koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a>><BR>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] [Koha] Who is Live DVD manager of version<BR> 3.12.x?<BR>Message-ID:<BR> <CABZfb=Wzi=_sNp2OQ=<a ymailto="mailto:aAHN_ZvFiKKPZgn9rWpUzfP4wXzTKkBg@mail.gmail.com" href="javascript:return">aAHN_ZvFiKKPZgn9rWpUzfP4wXzTKkBg@mail.gmail.com</a>><BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<BR><BR>Vimal, and list members<BR><BR>As I said before, the release team members list is the one from<BR><a href="http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.14. " target=_blank >http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.14. </a>I adjust the Release<BR>Manager to acknowledge Jared as 3.12's RM. People on the release<BR>announcement is people with current roles,
voted 3rd April on the IRC<BR>meeting.<BR><BR>As of 31 July I have already pushed a patch that acknowledges Vimal as<BR>LiveDVD maintainer during the 3.10-3.12 period [1], it appears in the<BR>"About" section in Koha, and will continue during the whole 3.12 lifecycle<BR>(this should be the patch Jared suggests).<BR><BR>On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Vimal Kumar V. <<a ymailto="mailto:vimal0212@gmail.com" href="javascript:return">vimal0212@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<BR><BR>> Dear Jared,<BR>><BR>> Why Nguyen Quoc Uy name appeared in release notes of 3.12.3?<BR>> In my knowledge Live DVD of 3.12.3 or 3.12.4 have not released yet.<BR>><BR><BR>I think the lack of synergy with the dev community is the root for this<BR>problems. Maybe Nguyen and you could be on IRC or arrange an IRC meeting<BR>and we could sort this out easily. As of me, your work is acknowledged by<BR>my patch. And feel comfortable about
that.<BR><BR>Regards<BR>To+<BR><BR>[1]<BR><a href="http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/about.tt;h=4baa58d6eb5063c473f84f29199bbe824b1d58df;hp=db11d906f36715d0486d4682eeaa8a3aa6e7df1d;hb=c0df9a90577cfdee19c9a1d2ca1155846fcb2b07;hpb=17573f120b13cb496d7fac82ed5ed647eaf82888" target=_blank >http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/about.tt;h=4baa58d6eb5063c473f84f29199bbe824b1d58df;hp=db11d906f36715d0486d4682eeaa8a3aa6e7df1d;hb=c0df9a90577cfdee19c9a1d2ca1155846fcb2b07;hpb=17573f120b13cb496d7fac82ed5ed647eaf82888</a><BR><BR><BR><BR>><BR>><BR>> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Jared Camins-Esakov <<BR>> <a ymailto="mailto:jcamins@cpbibliography.com" href="javascript:return">jcamins@cpbibliography.com</a>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> > Vimal, et. al.,<BR>> ><BR>> > As Tomas stated last time, the release
notes list the current members of<BR>> > the release team. As your term as livedvd manager ended several months<BR>> ago,<BR>> > you are not a member of the current release team. You will notice that D.<BR>> > Ruth Bavousett and Elliott Davis are not currently listed either, despite<BR>> > having been members of the release team during the 3.12.<BR>> ><BR>> > I would also note that there was a security release on the Koha 3.12.x<BR>> > branch last month. If your argument is not just that you released the<BR>> > livedvd for Koha 3.12.0 (which no one -- other than, apparently, you --<BR>> > questions) but rather that you are the current maintainer of the Koha<BR>> > 3.12.x livedvd, your argument would be much-strengthened by releasing an<BR>> > updated version of the livedvd without the serious security flaw which<BR>> was<BR>> > addressed in 3.12.3.<BR>> ><BR>> >
That said, I take no particular stance on this question, but I will point<BR>> > out that Koha is an open source project, and patches are always accepted.<BR>> > If you feel that your name should be listed in the release notes,<BR>> > submitting a patch that adds your name (and provides an explanation in<BR>> the<BR>> > commit message about why this is necessary) would be a good idea.<BR>> ><BR>> > Regards,<BR>> > Jared<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Vimal Kumar V. <<a ymailto="mailto:vimal0212@gmail.com" href="javascript:return">vimal0212@gmail.com</a><BR>> >wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> Dear Friends,<BR>> >> I don't know why Release Maintainer of Koha 3.12.x always forgot to give<BR>> >> the exact name of Live DVD manager in release notes!!!<BR>> >> <a href="http://koha-community.org/koha-3-12-4-released/"
target=_blank >http://koha-community.org/koha-3-12-4-released/</a><BR>> >><BR>> >> I once again request to Release Manager to read once more roles for 3.12<BR>> >> version.<BR>> >> <a href="http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.12" target=_blank >http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.12</a><BR>> >><BR>> >> I would like to get the reputation as Live DVD Manager.<BR>> >> Like any other members in developers community, I had burned lot of my<BR>> >> time to create Koha Live DVD for 3.12 version.<BR>> >><BR>> >> Regards,<BR>> >> --<BR>> >> Vimal Kumar V.<BR>> >> Technical Assistant<BR>> >> Mahatma Gandhi University Library<BR>> >> Kottayam, Kerala- 686 560<BR>> >> Web: <a href="http://www.vimalkumar.info" target=_blank >http://www.vimalkumar.info</a><BR>> >> Blog: <a
href="http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com " target=_blank >http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com </a><a href="http://kohageek.blogspot.in" target=_blank >http://kohageek.blogspot.in</a><BR>> >><BR>> >><BR>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> >> "I forget what I was taught. I only remember what I have learnt"<BR>> >> -Patrick White<BR>> >><BR>> >> _______________________________________________<BR>> >> Koha-devel mailing list<BR>> >> <a ymailto="mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org" href="javascript:return">Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a><BR>> >> <a href="http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel" target=_blank >http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel</a><BR>> >> website : <a href="http://www.koha-community.org/" target=_blank
>http://www.koha-community.org/</a><BR>> >> git : <a href="http://git.koha-community.org/" target=_blank >http://git.koha-community.org/</a><BR>> >> bugs : <a href="http://bugs.koha-community.org/" target=_blank >http://bugs.koha-community.org/</a><BR>> >><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > --<BR>> > Jared Camins-Esakov<BR>> > Bibliographer, C & P Bibliography Services, LLC<BR>> > (phone) +1 (917) 727-3445<BR>> > (e-mail) <a ymailto="mailto:jcamins@cpbibliography.com" href="javascript:return">jcamins@cpbibliography.com</a><BR>> > (web) <a href="http://www.cpbibliography.com/" target=_blank >http://www.cpbibliography.com/</a><BR>> ><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> --<BR>> Vimal Kumar V.<BR>> Technical Assistant<BR>> Mahatma Gandhi University Library<BR>> Kottayam, Kerala- 686 560<BR>> Web: <a href="http://www.vimalkumar.info" target=_blank
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