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<p>We are getting too much managers here :)<br>
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<div id="divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt" color="#000000"><b>Van:</b> koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org <koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org> namens Marc Véron <veron@veron.ch><br>
<b>Verzonden:</b> woensdag 1 juni 2016 08:13:30<br>
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<b>Onderwerp:</b> Re: [Koha-devel] How do we find consensus on interface changes?</font>
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<p>+1 for 'Style guidelines' and 'GUI manager'</p>
<p>Regarding the Wiki:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Interface_patterns">https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Interface_patterns</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_Handbook">https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_Handbook</a> (1.2 User Interface)</p>
<p>Should this be consolidated in one document?<br>
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<p>Marc<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 01.06.2016 um 02:43 schrieb Kyle Hall:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I think you've summarized everything nicely. If Owen were interested in taking some official mantel I would not be opposed ; )
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<div>I think we need to focus on expediency and uniformity primarily. I think we basically have those two things, but they could both be improved. I would be more than happy to work on adding a UI guidelines section to the wiki. For those interested, here is
what I've done so far: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_Handbook"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_Handbook">https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_Handbook</a></div>
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<div>It's a bit rough now because it's really guideline-centric, but I think over time it will come into its own quite nicely. Constructive criticism is welcome!<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Katrin <span dir="ltr">
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">I like the idea of having a role like 'GUI manager' and also the idea of having style guidelines for the interfaces. Actually, I think. we already have both of those, as Owen has been working on writing documentation about
existing patterns on the wiki.<br>
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I am not in favor of approving every change that would change the screenshots, as that would make the clean-up work much harder, that Owen, Aleisha and others have done recently. For bigger changes I'd try sending links to screenshots/bug reports to the mailing
list to get some opinions - if there is no clear direction, we can still schedule an official discussion/vote at a meeting.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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<div>On 31.05.2016 23:54, Kyle Hall wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">Love it! I'd say this is a much better idea!</p>
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<p dir="ltr">Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 31, 2016 4:25 PM, "Eric Bégin" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:eric.begin@inlibro.com" target="_blank">eric.begin@inlibro.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><font face="Verdana">I would rather have a Interface guideline the same way we have coding guidelines.<br>
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I'm pretty sure that there are some UX design patterns available somewhere.<br>
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If we would like to have a rules, I would suggest that something that changes the screenshot used in the user documentation should be approved, especially when it doesn't add features.<br>
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<div>On 2016-05-31 15:49, Kyle Hall wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">I'm concerned that we are going down a road where every patch submitted to the Koha project will end up requiring a community vote. I think it would be more reasonable and efficient to add a community UI manager role to the project. Someone who
is empowered to make executive decisions on this matter. Either that or accept that the way team rules on this matter. The community votes them in after all!</p>
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<p dir="ltr">Sent from my phone. Please excuse my brevity.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On May 31, 2016 3:32 PM, "Christopher Davis" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cgdavis@uintah.utah.gov" target="_blank"></a><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:cgdavis@uintah.utah.gov">cgdavis@uintah.utah.gov</a>>
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Owen,<br>
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I think that Koha users should voice their opinion/votes as that the<br>
Koha software, more or less, belongs to them. Now, what vehicle should<br>
we use to collect everyone's opinion/vote (like Survey Monkey, Google<br>
forms, IRC voting, etc.) and should there be a committee formed for<br>
this purpose? Maybe decisions such as this one should be voted on<br>
during Koha Devl IRC meetings?<br>
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>> Could the new features which you are proposing be optional?<br>
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> They're not really new features, they're just changes to the way<br>
> existing features look. We can't build options for every change we<br>
> want to make to the interface. We need to make educated choices about<br>
> what we think is the best way for things to work. We may not always<br>
> get it right, but it's our job to make the choice.<br>
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