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    <p>+1 for 'Style guidelines' and 'GUI manager'</p>
    <p>Regarding the Wiki:<br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Interface_patterns">https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Interface_patterns</a><br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_Handbook">https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Developers_Handbook</a> (1.2 User
      Interface)</p>
    <p>Should this be consolidated in one document?<br>
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    <p>Marc<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 01.06.2016 um 02:43 schrieb Kyle
      Hall:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I think you've summarized everything nicely. If
        Owen were interested in taking some official mantel I would not
        be opposed ; )
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        <div>I think we need to focus on expediency and uniformity
          primarily. I think we basically have those two things, but
          they could both be improved. I would be more than happy to
          work on adding a UI guidelines section to the wiki. For those
          interested, here is what I've done so far: <a
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        <div>It's a bit rough now because it's really guideline-centric,
          but I think over time it will come into its own quite nicely.
          Constructive criticism is welcome!<br>
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          <div>Kyle</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Katrin
          <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:katrin.fischer.83@web.de" target="_blank">katrin.fischer.83@web.de</a>></span>
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            <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I like the idea of
              having a role like 'GUI manager' and also the idea of
              having style guidelines for the interfaces. Actually, I
              think. we already have both of those, as Owen has been
              working on writing documentation about existing patterns
              on the wiki.<br>
              <br>
              I am not in favor of approving every change that would
              change the screenshots, as that would make the clean-up
              work much harder, that Owen, Aleisha and others have done
              recently. For bigger changes I'd try sending links to
              screenshots/bug reports to the mailing list to get some
              opinions - if there is no clear direction, we can still
              schedule an official discussion/vote at a meeting.<span
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                  Katrin</font></span>
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                  <div>On 31.05.2016 23:54, Kyle Hall wrote:<br>
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                    <p dir="ltr">Love it! I'd say this is a much better
                      idea!</p>
                    <p dir="ltr">Kyle</p>
                    <p dir="ltr">Sent from my phone. Please excuse my
                      brevity.</p>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On May 31, 2016 4:25 PM,
                      "Eric Bégin" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:eric.begin@inlibro.com"
                        target="_blank">eric.begin@inlibro.com</a>>
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                            face="Verdana">I would rather have a
                            Interface guideline the same way we have
                            coding guidelines.<br>
                            <br>
                            I'm pretty sure that there are some UX
                            design patterns available somewhere.<br>
                            <br>
                            If we would like to have a rules, I would
                            suggest that something that changes the
                            screenshot used in the user documentation
                            should be approved, especially when it
                            doesn't add features.<br>
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                            Eric<br>
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                          <div>On 2016-05-31 15:49, Kyle Hall wrote:<br>
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                            <p dir="ltr">I'm concerned that we are going
                              down a road where every patch submitted to
                              the Koha project will end up requiring a
                              community vote. I think it would be more
                              reasonable and efficient to add a
                              community UI manager role to the project.
                              Someone who is empowered to make executive
                              decisions on this matter. Either that or
                              accept that the way team rules on this
                              matter. The community votes them in after
                              all!</p>
                            <p dir="ltr">Kyle </p>
                            <p dir="ltr">Sent from my phone. Please
                              excuse my brevity.</p>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On May 31, 2016
                              3:32 PM, "Christopher Davis" <<a
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                              wrote:<br type="attribution">
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                                style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                                #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Owen,<br>
                                <br>
                                I think that Koha users should voice
                                their opinion/votes as that the<br>
                                Koha software, more or less, belongs to
                                them. Now, what vehicle should<br>
                                we use to collect everyone's
                                opinion/vote (like Survey Monkey, Google<br>
                                forms, IRC voting, etc.) and should
                                there be a committee formed for<br>
                                this purpose? Maybe decisions such as
                                this one should be voted on<br>
                                during Koha Devl IRC meetings?<br>
                                <br>
                                My $0.02 worth,<br>
                                <br>
                                Christopher Davis, MLS<br>
                                Systems & E-Services Librarian<br>
                                Uintah County Library<br>
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                                On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Owen
                                Leonard <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:oleonard@myacpl.org"
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                                wrote:<br>
                                >> Could the new features which
                                you are proposing be optional?<br>
                                ><br>
                                > They're not really new features,
                                they're just changes to the way<br>
                                > existing features look. We can't
                                build options for every change we<br>
                                > want to make to the interface. We
                                need to make educated choices about<br>
                                > what we think is the best way for
                                things to work. We may not always<br>
                                > get it right, but it's our job to
                                make the choice.<br>
                                ><br>
                                >   -- Owen<br>
                                ><br>
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