<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>Arthur,<br><br></div>I believe that foundation is an alternative to bootstrap. React JS is on the league of backbone, angular and ember.<br><br></div>I have use React JS on a project and the best thing about it is the possibility of rewrite really small parts of the page. Create small widget to increase the functionality and keep turning the old page in a new way.<br></div>One of the best thing for me about react is that is only frontend development so it has less impact on a migration and you can really decouple the backend.<br><br></div>My cons are that the documentation is not that good, they want you to write the new code on ES6 but there is not that much documentation on that. Another thing is that you need nodejs to compile it so is another thing to throw on the stack.<br><br></div>Just my grain of sand!  <br><div><div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!<br></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 9:59 AM, SUZUKI Arthur <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:arthur.suzuki@univ-lyon3.fr" target="_blank">arthur.suzuki@univ-lyon3.fr</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    Since you're talking about JS/CSS Frameworks, what about Foundation?<br>
    <a href="http://foundation.zurb.com/" target="_blank">http://foundation.zurb.com/</a><br>
    This one is cool too!<br>
    Best regards,<br>
    Arthur Suzuki<br>
    University Jean Moulin Lyon 3<div><div class="h5"><br>
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    <div>Le 19/09/2016 à 14:33, Philippe Blouin
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      Can I not be against, yet still have concerns?  :)<br>
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      I'm glad you so gallantly dumped Angular, which I would have
      raised my hand Against since that thing obsolete past code every 6
      months.  But I do not know React.  Could you sell me more the big
      plusses to do that.  What will it replace, do you have an
      example?  What about all the code waiting approval right now, will
      it become obsolete because non-Reactive ?<br>
      <br>
      All the big previous changes (bootstrap, dbix...) were not without
      pain, espeicially for those outside the core, not coding these
      technologies 24/7.<br>
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      And how do you see React evolving in the next 5 years?  Keeping up
      with bootstrap requires huge effort (if/when we upgrade).<br>
      <br>
      Again, I know little.  Please don't ask me if I'm against, but
      give me your big sales pitch. :)<br>
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      Cheers,<br>
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          <div> <span>Philippe Blouin,</span><br>
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      <div>On 09/19/2016 08:18 AM, Kyle Hall
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        <div dir="ltr">Thanks for the feedback Stefano!
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          <div>Please, if anybody is *against* the use of React in Koha,
            please voice your concerns!</div>
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          <div>Kyle</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 9:50 AM,
            Stefano Bargioni <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bargioni@pusc.it" target="_blank">bargioni@pusc.it</a>></span>
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              <div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span>My +1 for
                  React. Angular requires a specific skill, other than
                  Javascript.</span>
                <div><span><font color="#888888">Stefano<br>
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                        <div>On 15 set 2016, at 19:22, Kyle Hall <<a href="mailto:kyle.m.hall@gmail.com" target="_blank">kyle.m.hall@gmail.com</a>>
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                            <div dir="ltr">I have my proof of concept
                              for using <span>React</span> within Koha
                              completed! You can see it here: <a href="https://bugs.koha-commun" target="_blank">https://bugs.koha-commun</a><a href="http://ity.org/bugzilla3/show_bug" target="_blank"><wbr>ity.org/bugzilla3/show_bug</a>.cgi<wbr>?id=17297
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                              <div>Please give it a try!</div>
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                              <div>So, I've written this development (
                                at least in part ) in both Angular and <span>React</span>.
                                I know Angular 2 is out but here are my
                                thoughts so far.</div>
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                              <div>1) It's much easier to think in <span>React</span> than
                                in Angular. <span>React</span> is for
                                the most part just Javascript. It's far
                                less opinionated than Angular. They
                                saying goes <span>React</span> is
                                Javascript and Angular is Angular. I
                                think the flexibility of <span>React</span> works
                                well within the Koha ecosystem.</div>
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                              <div><span style="font-size:12.8px">2)
                                  Writing </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">React</span><span style="font-size:12.8px"> feels much
                                  more like programming. I think it's
                                  much faster to develop reactive and
                                  ajax features in </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">React</span><span style="font-size:12.8px"> than it is
                                  using jQuery.</span><br style="font-size:12.8px" clear="all">
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                                <div style="font-size:12.8px">3) <span>React</span> makes
                                  it pretty easy to create widgets that
                                  we can drop in to a given page and
                                  have just work. Pretty much anything
                                  that shows up on multiple pages would
                                  make for a good <span>React</span> widget.
                                  Think the holds table which is on the
                                  checkouts page and the patron details
                                  page. It is ajaxified now, but a far
                                  far cleaner version could be written
                                  in <span>React</span>.</div>
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                                </div>
                                <div style="font-size:12.8px">4) React
                                  is just a view layer. Angular is a
                                  full MVC framework with many pieces we
                                  don't really need.</div>
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                                </div>
                                <div style="font-size:12.8px">I think <span>React</span> is
                                  probably the way to go for Koha. I
                                  like Angular but for Koha in
                                  particular, I think <span>React</span> is
                                  a better fit. I think we really need
                                  to get this decision made as soon as
                                  possible. If anyone has opinions,
                                  please let everyone know!</div>
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                                <div style="font-size:12.8px">Kyle</div>
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