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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I think it differs in that a search engine and a RESTful API adds core functionality. Without them, we can’t really search or expose services. We already have a JS UI toolkit, which seems to be working fine. <o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Why do you say that React is necessary and long overdue? In terms of your email, do you mean that it lets you do more with less code? I’m not necessarily opposed to that. I do get annoyed by having to write so much code to achieve small things at times.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I suppose I’m curious as to the motivation behind React at this point. Aren’t there higher priorities for Koha right now? I suppose maybe that’s just my own naïveté speaking, and part of the joy of having so many developers on Koha is that we can all focus on different aspects of the system. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yet, shouldn’t there be some cohesion? Are our interfaces going to be a combination of plain JS, jQuery, Bootstrap, React, Yui (if it’s still used), and whatever other libraries we’re still using? This is what I mean about bolting things on. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Then again, if React really does allow for cleaner interfaces, perhaps we’d find it taking over our interfaces rapidly, and it would become a de facto standard. I don’t know. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>David Cook<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Systems Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Prosentient Systems<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>72/330 Wattle St<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ultimo, NSW 2007<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Office: 02 9212 0899<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Direct: 02 8005 0595<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Kyle Hall [mailto:kyle.m.hall@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 20 September 2016 3:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au><br><b>Cc:</b> Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org>; Koha Devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Koha-devel] To React or not to React<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>For my part, I don't know if we need to keep bolting on more new and shiny<br>to Koha.<br><br>ElasticSearch makes sense. A REST API makes sense. Fixing broken things or<br>adding missing essential functionality.<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'm not sure how this differs from Koha adding Zebra, adding Elastic or adding a restful api. To me, this is not a matter of adding new for the sake of new ( React isn't even new at this point ) but of adding something that is necessary and long overdue. The question isn't about needing React or not, it's about the need for a modern JS UI toolkit to take advantage of our svc and rest api's without the need to write crazy amounts of code to make it work with just jQuery. Take a look at the javascript file for the holds table and you'll see what I mean. A React implementation of it would be *so* much cleaner and easier to understand for everyone. Please don't ask me to rewrite it as a poc though ; ) I *will* be happy to rewrite it post-adoption.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><br>Also, how would this React POC go in terms of translations?<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>React is just Javascript, and is translated the same way translate all our other js files.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><br>David Cook<br>Systems Librarian<br>Prosentient Systems<br>72/330 Wattle St<br>Ultimo, NSW 2007<br>Australia<br><br>Office: 02 9212 0899<br>Direct: 02 8005 0595<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: <a href="mailto:koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org">koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:koha-devel-">koha-devel-</a><br>> <a href="mailto:bounces@lists.koha-community.org">bounces@lists.koha-community.org</a>] On Behalf Of Owen Leonard<br>> Sent: Monday, 19 September 2016 11:33 PM<br>> To: Koha Devel <<a href="mailto:koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org">koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] To React or not to React<br>><br>> > Another thing is that you need nodejs to compile it so is another<br>> > thing to throw on the stack.<br>><br>> Isn't this the kind of dependency requirement that killed my request to<br>> introduce a front-end build tool like Grunt or Gulp?<br>><br>> -- Owen<br>><br>> --<br>> Web Developer<br>> Athens County Public Libraries<br>> <a href="http://www.myacpl.org" target="_blank">http://www.myacpl.org</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Koha-devel mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org">Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel" target="_blank">http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel</a><br>> website : <a href="http://www.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://www.koha-community.org/</a> git : <a href="http://git.koha-" target="_blank">http://git.koha-</a><br>> <a href="http://community.org/" target="_blank">community.org/</a> bugs : <a href="http://bugs.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://bugs.koha-community.org/</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>