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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor="white" lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple">One but not least issue with JavaScript, how do we test this?<br><br>I mean it's easy to test the API itself, making requests to it and monitoring the change in the koha db or mock objects.<br><br>It's also easy to check if the Intranet or Opac page returned by the server contains some strings in the html code (I guess, didn't try though).<br><br>How do we execute the Javascript in the test and verify it has the expected behavior?<br><br>Overall I have to say I'm very happy with this change (using more API) though, since it will raise interest for this further and can bring Koha to a whole new level within libraries app,<br>Koha being at the core of other third parties apps to interact with (not to mention them: Coral ERMS and Bokeh Library Frontend).<br>\o/<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 8 octobre 2019 01:53:59 GMT+02:00, dcook@prosentient.com.au a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I agree with Katrin. I think we need to be careful to think as developers in the open source GLAM space rather than the less accountable corporate space. While I’m a few years out of date when it comes to accessibility, I do still have some friends who are experts in that area and could get their opinion on the matter. From what I remember, Javascript != accessible. I think it was because screenreaders, at least historically, didn’t render the Javascript and that caused the lack of functionality for people with accessibility needs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">I’d also add that we can use the API without using Javascript. We could build a lightweight controller which does the API call on the server backend rather than from the client browser, so the user could POST to a CGI .pl script (or a PSGI route), and the API handles all the real business logic. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">If we wanted to be modern, we could use Javascript to call the API, but fail gracefully by POSTing the form instead if Javascript turns off. I know that would be a lot more work, but that could way we could keep the modernity while also maintaining accessibility. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Just my 2 cents. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">David Cook<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Systems Librarian<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Prosentient Systems<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">72/330 Wattle St<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Ultimo, NSW 2007<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Office: 02 9212 0899<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext">Direct: 02 8005 0595<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:windowtext"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="color:windowtext"> Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Katrin Fischer<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 8 October 2019 7:31 AM<br><b>To:</b> koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Koha-devel] API use in intranet and OPAC<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p>If we decide to require JavaScript for the OPAC we should be careful to do it in a way that is accessible. Accessibility can even be a legal requirement in some countries for websites of public institutions like libraries.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Katrin<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 07.10.19 13:28, Kyle Hall wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I think it's pretty practical at this point in time to agree that if we are to continue making a modern web app, we need to require javascript.<br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">---<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.kylehall.info" target="_blank">http://www.kylehall.info</a><br>ByWater Solutions ( <a href="http://bywatersolutions.com" target="_blank">http://bywatersolutions.com</a> )<br>Meadville Public Library ( <a href="http://www.meadvillelibrary.org" target="_blank">http://www.meadvillelibrary.org</a> )<br>Crawford County 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