<html><head></head><body>Hi all<br><br>I agree, we do need to work on a lightweight alternative, and until we have one support zebra.<br>The vast majority of Koha libraries will not have the budget to be able to run an elastic search cluster.<br>So while elastic search is definitely great and we should continue to improve our usage of it. The beauty of Koha is we don't leave people behind.<br><br>Just my 2 cents <br><br>Chris <br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 September 2020 7:32:39 am NZST, "Renvoize, Martin" <martin.renvoize@ptfs-europe.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="auto"><div>I would say it's time to start thinking about alternatives/further encourage the adoption of elastic search and clean up the search code in general.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I still have a, perhaps misguided, fondness for zebra. I'm not sure Koha has always used it to its strengths and it certainly has its own issues.. but it is significantly lighter weight to run and has a place as a genuine alternative to the rather heavy elasticsearch.. I'd love to see a lightweight option replace zebra as an option one day but I don't think it's a priority quit yet..might be worth some experimenting though given its dwindling support higher up the river.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Just my two pennies,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Martin</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 3 Sep 2020, 6:01 pm Katrin Fischer, <<a href="mailto:katrin.fischer.83@web.de">katrin.fischer.83@web.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Hi Tomas, I don't think that's correct - there was never an
      official decision on deprecating Zebra.<br>
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    <div>On 03.09.20 14:27, Tomas Cohen Arazi
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      <div dir="ltr">Latest commit is from April 8th. I belive it is in
        maintenance mode only.
        <div>We deprecated it, though. So focus is on ES integration.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">El mié., 2 sept. 2020 a las
          21:54, <<a href="mailto:dcook@prosentient.com.au" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dcook@prosentient.com.au</a>>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">I just noticed that Indexdata doesn’t
                provide Zebra packages past Debian Stretch: <a href="http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/debian/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/debian/</a>.
                The latest Ubuntu package is for 18.04 (Bionic): <a href="http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/ubuntu/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/ubuntu/</a></p>
              <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
              <p class="MsoNormal">In fact, Zebra hasn’t been updated
                since August 2018 according to the changelog: <a href="https://software.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/NEWS" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://software.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/NEWS</a>.
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              <p class="MsoNormal">In Debian, it looks like Debian 11
                Bullseye will have the latest Zebra (2.1.4), so there is
                that at least. </p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">I guess people using Debian 10 Buster
                will either need to use the buggy Zebra (2.0.59) in
                Debian or maybe use the Stretch packages from Indexdata.
                But then from Bullseye onwards there will be the latest
                Zebra until Debian drops the package I guess.</p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">All the more reason to move more to
                Elasticsearch?</p>
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