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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I know what you mean, and I totally agree about Koha not using Zebra to its strengths.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>That said, Zebra does have some annoying limitations, although I have thought how some of those could be worked around by wrapping Zebra with another program (or even writing features and upstreaming them. I’d just need to brush up on my C skills).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>David Cook<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Software Engineer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Prosentient Systems<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>72/330 Wattle St<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ultimo, NSW 2007<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Office: 02 9212 0899<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Online: 02 8005 0595<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Renvoize, Martin<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 4 September 2020 5:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> Koha Devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Koha-devel] Is Indexdata's Zebra a dead project?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I would say it's time to start thinking about alternatives/further encourage the adoption of elastic search and clean up the search code in general.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I still have a, perhaps misguided, fondness for zebra. I'm not sure Koha has always used it to its strengths and it certainly has its own issues.. but it is significantly lighter weight to run and has a place as a genuine alternative to the rather heavy elasticsearch.. I'd love to see a lightweight option replace zebra as an option one day but I don't think it's a priority quit yet..might be worth some experimenting though given its dwindling support higher up the river.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just my two pennies,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Martin<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, 3 Sep 2020, 6:01 pm Katrin Fischer, <<a href="mailto:katrin.fischer.83@web.de">katrin.fischer.83@web.de</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p>Hi Tomas, I don't think that's correct - there was never an official decision on deprecating Zebra.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 03.09.20 14:27, Tomas Cohen Arazi wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Latest commit is from April 8th. I belive it is in maintenance mode only. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>We deprecated it, though. So focus is on ES integration.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>El mié., 2 sept. 2020 a las 21:54, <<a href="mailto:dcook@prosentient.com.au" target="_blank">dcook@prosentient.com.au</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I just noticed that Indexdata doesn’t provide Zebra packages past Debian Stretch: <a href="http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/debian/" target="_blank">http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/debian/</a>. The latest Ubuntu package is for 18.04 (Bionic): <a href="http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/ubuntu/" target="_blank">http://ftp.indexdata.dk/pub/zebra/ubuntu/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In fact, Zebra hasn’t been updated since August 2018 according to the changelog: <a href="https://software.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/NEWS" target="_blank">https://software.indexdata.com/zebra/doc/NEWS</a>. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In Debian, it looks like Debian 11 Bullseye will have the latest Zebra (2.1.4), so there is that at least. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I guess people using Debian 10 Buster will either need to use the buggy Zebra (2.0.59) in Debian or maybe use the Stretch packages from Indexdata. But then from Bullseye onwards there will be the latest Zebra until Debian drops the package I guess.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>All the more reason to move more to Elasticsearch?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>David Cook<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Software Engineer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Prosentient Systems<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>72/330 Wattle St<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ultimo, NSW 2007<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Office: 02 9212 0899<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Online: 02 8005 0595<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Koha-devel mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org" target="_blank">Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel</a><br>website : <a href="http://www.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://www.koha-community.org/</a><br>git : <a href="http://git.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://git.koha-community.org/</a><br>bugs : <a href="http://bugs.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://bugs.koha-community.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Tomás Cohen Arazi<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Theke Solutions (<a href="http://theke.io/" target="_blank">http://theke.io</a>)<br></span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Symbol",sans-serif'>✆</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt'> +54 9351 3513384<br>GPG: B2F3C15F<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Koha-devel mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org" target="_blank">Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>website : <a href="http://www.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://www.koha-community.org/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>git : <a href="http://git.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://git.koha-community.org/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>bugs : <a href="http://bugs.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://bugs.koha-community.org/</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Koha-devel mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org" target="_blank">Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel</a><br>website : <a href="http://www.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://www.koha-community.org/</a><br>git : <a href="http://git.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://git.koha-community.org/</a><br>bugs : <a href="http://bugs.koha-community.org/" target="_blank">http://bugs.koha-community.org/</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></div></div></body></html>