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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As we add external dependencies to Koha (e.g. MariaDB, Elasticsearch, RabbitMQ, etc), there are fears that we are making Koha harder to install for less technical users. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>As a result, Jonathan, Tomas, Martin, Mason, and I have been discussing* creating a Koha metapackage that incudes all of Koha’s external dependencies, so that people can keep installing Koha with a minimum number of steps. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I think we’re at a point where we now need to decide on some names for metapackages.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Mason has already commented that it would be best to leave the current “koha” and “koha-common” packages as they are and I think that makes sense. While no one uses the “koha” package, I think there is still a dream of one day getting Koha into the upstream Debian repositories with that package name. Likewise, “koha-common” is so common that we had best not change it any time soon. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Here are some naming options that have been discussed:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Option 1<o:p></o:p></li><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>koha-lite (this metapackage installs koha-common)<o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>koha-full (this metapackage installs koha-common, MariaDB, Elasticsearch, RabbitMQ, etc)<o:p></o:p></li></ol><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Option 2<o:p></o:p></li><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>koha-full (this metapackage installs koha-common, MariaDB, Elasticsearch, RabbitMQ, etc)<o:p></o:p></li></ol><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Option 3<o:p></o:p></li><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>koha-standalone (this metapackage installs koha-common, MariaDB, Elasticsearch, RabbitMQ, etc)<o:p></o:p></li></ol><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'>Option 4 (David’s Preferred Option)<o:p></o:p></li><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>koha-core (this metapackage installs koha-common)<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>I would avoid “koha-lite” as it implies a little application whereas Koha is a large application<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>I think that koha-common is currently misnamed as it really is more of a “core” package than a “common” package that is shared among different packages or standalone applications (like postgresql-common being shared between client and server). However, koha-common has legacy value as a name. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>iii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>In time, I’d like to see services like the SIP server, Z3950 responder, etc broken out of “koha-core” and put into their own packages. Eventually “koha-common” would just contain a set of core libraries that are shared amongst different Koha services. This would help with scalability, especially when using containers and other forms of modern computing. <o:p></o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=4 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=2 type=a><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level2 lfo1'>koha-full (this metapackage installs koha-common, MariaDB, Elasticsearch, RabbitMQ, etc)<o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>i.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>I would avoid “koha-standalone” as I think that it implies a package without dependencies, whereas ours would have several dependencies and be more in line with “koha-full”. This is based on some searches through Debian repos:<o:p></o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=4 type=1><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=2 type=a><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=i><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo1'><a href="https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=-standalone">https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=-standalone</a><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l0 level4 lfo1'><a href="https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=-full">https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=-full</a><o:p></o:p></li></ol></ol></ol></ol><p class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:108.0pt;text-indent:-108.0pt;mso-text-indent-alt:-9.0pt;mso-list:l0 level3 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span>ii.<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>In Debian, there is a nginx-full package which installs many components (e.g. nginx-common, libnginx-mod-http-auth-pam, etc) and there is a nginx-core package which installs nginx-common and a small subset of libnginx-* packages<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I ask that people comment here on the listserv, and ultimately we can conclude that discussion in Bugzilla at <a href="https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26672">https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26672</a>. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>*based on my comment at <a href="https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22417#c266">https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22417#c266</a> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>David Cook<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Software Engineer<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Prosentient Systems<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>72/330 Wattle St<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ultimo, NSW 2007<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Australia<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Office: 02 9212 0899<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Online: 02 8005 0595<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>