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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body>A new request with request id 9768 has been created by koha-devel-request@lists.koha-community.org. Short info on the request is : <br><br>Title : Koha-devel Digest, Vol 198, Issue 19<br>Category : <br>Description : <div>Send Koha-devel mailing list submissions to<br> koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> koha-devel-request@lists.koha-community.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> koha-devel-owner@lists.koha-community.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Koha-devel digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Gitlab policy changes (Tomas Cohen Arazi)<br> 2. Re: Gitlab policy changes (Doug Kingston)<br> 3. Re: Gitlab policy changes (dcook@prosentient.com.au)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 21:06:10 -0300<br>From: Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com><br>To: koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br>Message-ID:<br> <CABZfb=VnjCVegwPfK96LL6gbn3BDNF-od4zDK1Mfs09DKxa1=Q@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Most limitations are about workers quotas. We can still rely on their<br>services and run our own workers? It feels we should try enrolling as an<br>open source organization, it at least see where the process takes us.<br><br>Worth hearing all opinions!<br><br>El mié, 25 may 2022 20:55, <dcook@prosentient.com.au> escribió:<br><br>> Where did you see that quote, Jonathan?<br>><br>> Here’s the relevant two lines I’m seeing:<br>> 1. “Not seeking profit: Your organization must not seek to make a profit<br>> through services or by charging for higher tiers. Accepting donations to<br>> sustain your efforts is ok. Read more about this requirement here.”<br>> 2. “Not seek profit: An organization can accept donations to sustain its<br>> work, but it can’t seek to make a profit by selling services, by charging<br>> for enhancements or add-ons, or by other means."<br>><br>> In theory, the organisation should be the Koha Community so it might be<br>> OK, since it doesn't sell services. That's in contrast to Duraspace/Lyrasis<br>> which is the non-profit company that develops DSpace and hosts a lot of its<br>> infrastructure; they sell DSpace services. I suppose though only Gitlab can<br>> ultimately make that call though?<br>><br>> --<br>><br>> That said, overall, I don't know that we need to apply to the Gitlab for<br>> Open Source Program though? It might have some benefits but it might be<br>> relying too much on a third-party that can change its services on a whim?<br>><br>> David Cook<br>> Senior Software Engineer<br>> Prosentient Systems<br>> Suite 7.03<br>> 6a Glen St<br>> Milsons Point NSW 2061<br>> Australia<br>><br>> Office: 02 9212 0899<br>> Online: 02 8005 0595<br>><br>> From: Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org> On Behalf<br>> Of Jonathan Druart<br>> Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2022 8:33 AM<br>> To: Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com><br>> Cc: koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>> Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br>><br>> I had a look at it a couple of months ago but at some point you have to<br>> "certify that project maintainer are not seeking profit from this project<br>> by, for example, selling services"...<br>> Le mer. 25 mai 2022 à 17:51, Tomas Cohen Arazi <mailto:<br>> tomascohen@gmail.com> a écrit :<br>> Hi, we need to take a look at the upcoming changes and make a decision on<br>> enrolling as an Open Source project:<br>><br>><br>> https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2022/02/04/ultimate-perks-for-open-source-projects/<br>><br>> Please read carefully so we can make a decision eventually.<br>><br>> --<br>> Tomás Cohen Arazi<br>> Theke Solutions (http://theke.io/)<br>> ✆ +54 9351 3513384<br>> GPG: B2F3C15F<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Koha-devel mailing list<br>> mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org<br>> https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>> website : https://www.koha-community.org/<br>> git : https://git.koha-community.org/<br>> bugs : https://bugs.koha-community.org/<br>><br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/attachments/20220525/e8ce98ac/attachment-0001.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 17:25:30 -0700<br>From: Doug Kingston <dpk@randomnotes.org><br>To: Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com><br>Cc: koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br>Message-ID:<br> <CAGPaoUt40X64ORNgX93Dk6PhsVwK0zhAM3tZHnwNPKoGwpq7bQ@mail.gmail.com><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>I believe that The Horowhenua Library Trust as the non-profit behind<br>koha-community.org and trustees of the koha codebase would qualify to<br>enroll as an open-source organization.<br><br>-Doug-<br><br>On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:06 PM Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com><br>wrote:<br><br>> Most limitations are about workers quotas. We can still rely on their<br>> services and run our own workers? It feels we should try enrolling as an<br>> open source organization, it at least see where the process takes us.<br>><br>> Worth hearing all opinions!<br>><br>> El mié, 25 may 2022 20:55, <dcook@prosentient.com.au> escribió:<br>><br>>> Where did you see that quote, Jonathan?<br>>><br>>> Here’s the relevant two lines I’m seeing:<br>>> 1. “Not seeking profit: Your organization must not seek to make a profit<br>>> through services or by charging for higher tiers. Accepting donations to<br>>> sustain your efforts is ok. Read more about this requirement here.”<br>>> 2. “Not seek profit: An organization can accept donations to sustain its<br>>> work, but it can’t seek to make a profit by selling services, by charging<br>>> for enhancements or add-ons, or by other means."<br>>><br>>> In theory, the organisation should be the Koha Community so it might be<br>>> OK, since it doesn't sell services. That's in contrast to Duraspace/Lyrasis<br>>> which is the non-profit company that develops DSpace and hosts a lot of its<br>>> infrastructure; they sell DSpace services. I suppose though only Gitlab can<br>>> ultimately make that call though?<br>>><br>>> --<br>>><br>>> That said, overall, I don't know that we need to apply to the Gitlab for<br>>> Open Source Program though? It might have some benefits but it might be<br>>> relying too much on a third-party that can change its services on a whim?<br>>><br>>> David Cook<br>>> Senior Software Engineer<br>>> Prosentient Systems<br>>> Suite 7.03<br>>> 6a Glen St<br>>> Milsons Point NSW 2061<br>>> Australia<br>>><br>>> Office: 02 9212 0899<br>>> Online: 02 8005 0595<br>>><br>>> From: Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org> On Behalf<br>>> Of Jonathan Druart<br>>> Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2022 8:33 AM<br>>> To: Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com><br>>> Cc: koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>>> Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br>>><br>>> I had a look at it a couple of months ago but at some point you have to<br>>> "certify that project maintainer are not seeking profit from this project<br>>> by, for example, selling services"...<br>>> Le mer. 25 mai 2022 à 17:51, Tomas Cohen Arazi <mailto:<br>>> tomascohen@gmail.com> a écrit :<br>>> Hi, we need to take a look at the upcoming changes and make a decision on<br>>> enrolling as an Open Source project:<br>>><br>>><br>>> https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2022/02/04/ultimate-perks-for-open-source-projects/<br>>><br>>> Please read carefully so we can make a decision eventually.<br>>><br>>> --<br>>> Tomás Cohen Arazi<br>>> Theke Solutions (http://theke.io/)<br>>> ✆ +54 9351 3513384<br>>> GPG: B2F3C15F<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Koha-devel mailing list<br>>> mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org<br>>> https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>>> website : https://www.koha-community.org/<br>>> git : https://git.koha-community.org/<br>>> bugs : https://bugs.koha-community.org/<br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>> Koha-devel mailing list<br>> Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org<br>> https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>> website : https://www.koha-community.org/<br>> git : https://git.koha-community.org/<br>> bugs : https://bugs.koha-community.org/<br>><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/attachments/20220525/b789fc20/attachment-0001.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 10:27:17 +1000<br>From: <dcook@prosentient.com.au><br>To: "'Tomas Cohen Arazi'" <tomascohen@gmail.com>, "'koha-devel'"<br> <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br>Message-ID: <0b5001d87097$5cd49d40$167dd7c0$@prosentient.com.au><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Sounds like a plan. No opposition from me. <br><br> <br><br>David Cook<br><br>Senior Software Engineer<br><br>Prosentient Systems<br><br>Suite 7.03<br><br>6a Glen St<br><br>Milsons Point NSW 2061<br><br>Australia<br><br> <br><br>Office: 02 9212 0899<br><br>Online: 02 8005 0595<br><br> <br><br>From: Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org> On Behalf Of Tomas Cohen Arazi<br>Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2022 10:06 AM<br>To: koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br><br> <br><br>Most limitations are about workers quotas. We can still rely on their services and run our own workers? It feels we should try enrolling as an open source organization, it at least see where the process takes us.<br><br> <br><br>Worth hearing all opinions!<br><br> <br><br>El mié, 25 may 2022 20:55, <dcook@prosentient.com.au <mailto:dcook@prosentient.com.au> > escribió:<br><br>Where did you see that quote, Jonathan?<br><br>Here’s the relevant two lines I’m seeing:<br>1. “Not seeking profit: Your organization must not seek to make a profit through services or by charging for higher tiers. Accepting donations to sustain your efforts is ok. Read more about this requirement here.”<br>2. “Not seek profit: An organization can accept donations to sustain its work, but it can’t seek to make a profit by selling services, by charging for enhancements or add-ons, or by other means."<br><br>In theory, the organisation should be the Koha Community so it might be OK, since it doesn't sell services. That's in contrast to Duraspace/Lyrasis which is the non-profit company that develops DSpace and hosts a lot of its infrastructure; they sell DSpace services. I suppose though only Gitlab can ultimately make that call though?<br><br>--<br><br>That said, overall, I don't know that we need to apply to the Gitlab for Open Source Program though? It might have some benefits but it might be relying too much on a third-party that can change its services on a whim?<br><br>David Cook<br>Senior Software Engineer<br>Prosentient Systems<br>Suite 7.03<br>6a Glen St<br>Milsons Point NSW 2061<br>Australia<br><br>Office: 02 9212 0899<br>Online: 02 8005 0595<br><br>From: Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org <mailto:koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org> > On Behalf Of Jonathan Druart<br>Sent: Thursday, 26 May 2022 8:33 AM<br>To: Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com <mailto:tomascohen@gmail.com> ><br>Cc: koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org <mailto:koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org> ><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br><br>I had a look at it a couple of months ago but at some point you have to "certify that project maintainer are not seeking profit from this project by, for example, selling services"... <br>Le mer. 25 mai 2022 à 17:51, Tomas Cohen Arazi <mailto:tomascohen@gmail.com <mailto:tomascohen@gmail.com> > a écrit :<br>Hi, we need to take a look at the upcoming changes and make a decision on enrolling as an Open Source project:<br><br>https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2022/02/04/ultimate-perks-for-open-source-projects/<br><br>Please read carefully so we can make a decision eventually.<br><br>-- <br>Tomás Cohen Arazi<br>Theke Solutions (http://theke.io/)<br>✆ +54 9351 3513384<br>GPG: B2F3C15F<br>_______________________________________________<br>Koha-devel mailing list<br>mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org <mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org> <br>https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>website : https://www.koha-community.org/<br>git : https://git.koha-community.org/<br>bugs : https://bugs.koha-community.org/<br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/attachments/20220526/26f44a01/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Koha-devel mailing list<br>Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org<br>https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>website : https://www.koha-community.org/<br>git : https://git.koha-community.org/<br>bugs : https://bugs.koha-community.org/<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of Koha-devel Digest, Vol 198, Issue 19<br>*******************************************<br></div><br><br>NOTE: You are receiving this mail because, the Requester/Technician wanted you to get notified on this request creation.<br></body></html>