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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body>A new request with request id 8718 has been created by koha-devel-request@lists.koha-community.org. Short info on the request is : <br><br>Title : Koha-devel Digest, Vol 199, Issue 25<br>Category : <br>Description : <div>Send Koha-devel mailing list submissions to<br> koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> koha-devel-request@lists.koha-community.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> koha-devel-owner@lists.koha-community.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than "Re: Contents of Koha-devel digest..."<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Gitlab policy changes (dcook@prosentient.com.au)<br> 2. Re: Gitlab policy changes (dcook@prosentient.com.au)<br> 3. Re: ElasticSearch Geoserch (dcook@prosentient.com.au)<br> 4. Re: Gitlab policy changes (Victor Grousset/tuxayo)<br> 5. Koha Plugin for LibApps search source (LibraryGuides)<br> (dcook@prosentient.com.au)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 09:20:22 +1000<br>From: <dcook@prosentient.com.au><br>To: "'Victor Grousset/tuxayo'" <victor@tuxayo.net><br>Cc: "'koha-devel'" <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br>Message-ID: <07ff01d88c0e$d1fd9f80$75f8de80$@prosentient.com.au><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<br><br>Victor, it's clear that we do not see eye to eye on this topic, and I don't think that is going to change with further discussion.<br><br>Let's see what Gitlab says.<br><br>David Cook<br>Senior Software Engineer<br>Prosentient Systems<br>Suite 7.03<br>6a Glen St<br>Milsons Point NSW 2061<br>Australia<br><br>Office: 02 9212 0899<br>Online: 02 8005 0595<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Victor Grousset/tuxayo <victor@tuxayo.net> <br>Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2022 4:25 AM<br>To: dcook@prosentient.com.au<br>Cc: 'koha-devel' <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br><br>On 22-06-29 04:00, dcook@prosentient.com.au wrote:<br>> [...]<br>> Victor, I'm not going to try to respond line by line to your message,<br><br>No worries, what about the main point of my 1st message? That we don't fit at all with their terms when looking at our roles list no matter how we define maintainers.<br><br>> but I will say that everyone (myself included) has just been genuinely trying to interpret Gitlab's policy and how it applies to Koha; no one is trying to mislead anyone. The Koha community is the most good natured group of people that I've ever known in my entire life.<br><br>Sorry that I have made many people uncomfortable.<br><br>When I said «In practice we would be trying to scam GitLab.com» it was in «You don't realize it but it's misleading». Not «You are consciously and malevolently thinking to mislead them»<br><br><br>> [...]<br>> <br>> Anyway, I think that Tomas is going to try reaching out to Gitlab for more information, so we'll see what they say. Ultimately, we can speculate one way or another all we want, but it's up to Gitlab to say whether or not we fit, and I think that you can rest assured that we'll be open and honest with whatever information that they want to support their decision-making.<br><br>Bringing up HLT or Koha Community as non profit organization to be able to tick the box «project maintainers are not seeking to make profit from this project by for example, selling services [...]» didn't look like «you can rest assured that we'll be open and honest with whatever information that they want to support their decision-making»<br><br>Instead I though we gotta be upfront with ourselves if we were going that way which seemed misleading to me. (to bend so much things so they<br>fit) And that we needed to find reasons to be morally ok with that.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>--<br>Victor Grousset/tuxayo<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 2<br>Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 09:22:11 +1000<br>From: <dcook@prosentient.com.au><br>To: "'Tomas Cohen Arazi'" <tomascohen@gmail.com>, "'Victor<br> Grousset/tuxayo'" <victor@tuxayo.net><br>Cc: "'koha-devel'" <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br>Message-ID: <080001d88c0f$181447d0$483cd770$@prosentient.com.au><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Sounds great, Tomas. Thanks for doing that work. You’re a champion!<br><br> <br><br>David Cook<br><br>Senior Software Engineer<br><br>Prosentient Systems<br><br>Suite 7.03<br><br>6a Glen St<br><br>Milsons Point NSW 2061<br><br>Australia<br><br> <br><br>Office: 02 9212 0899<br><br>Online: 02 8005 0595<br><br> <br><br>From: Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org> On Behalf Of Tomas Cohen Arazi<br>Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:12 PM<br>To: Victor Grousset/tuxayo <victor@tuxayo.net><br>Cc: koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br><br> <br><br>Hi all, I have submitted the form, and also contacted the sales department so we can explain how the project management works and to clarify any doubts. I will add others to the conversation once I get the call with the sales people.<br><br> <br><br>Thanks everyone.<br><br> <br><br>El mié, 29 jun 2022 a las 0:37, Victor Grousset/tuxayo (<victor@tuxayo.net <mailto:victor@tuxayo.net> >) escribió:<br><br>On 22-06-28 10:23, Jonathan Druart wrote:<br>> Sorry for the late reply, I didn't really know what to say. As I was<br>> involved earlier in the discussion I feel that by not replying, I am<br>> agreeing with your message, Victor. <br><br>No worries, I think no one in the discussion was to be assumed to agree <br>with the idea that it would be a scam attempt to apply as is for the <br>non-profit program. Because for that someone must agree that we do not <br>fit at all with the non profit criteria for maintainers. That's the main <br>point of the message and necessary condition before starting to talk <br>about the scam thing.<br>And it seems everyone leans towards that we fit. So if anything to <br>assume, is that everyone was leaning towards agreeing to apply in good <br>faith without being a attempt to trick GitLab, thinking that we fit <br>enough in the criteria.<br><br>> However I do not agree at all.<br>> I do not recognize myself in your words<br><br>That's fine, it's my own view that we don't fit and the arguments to <br>apply anyway with less moral remorse are only mine.<br><br> > and I do not think "scamming gitlab" is a point of the discussion.<br>> The matter is to know if we are eligible for a program they support,<br>> and find the best way to apply in agreement with their terms and our<br>> project's view.<br><br>Alright, looks good that way, I had to think hard to find moral <br>justifications to apply as is without complying to their terms. <br>(Assuming we would lean toward that we don't fit at all with their terms.)<br>My feelings when reading the discussion were that bringing up Koha <br>Community as an organization or Horowhenua Library Trust was very <br>dubious and that we should be upfront that it would be a dubious <br>application to their program. Thus the scam thing.<br><br>> We are relying quite a lot on gitlab, and I personally think the open<br>> source product they provide is great. I thank their team for that.<br>> <br>> With this answer, I only wanted to take distance with your words.<br><br>What about the main point of the message? My most important words are <br>that we don't fit at all with their terms. (details in previous message) <br>Sorry that I went too far developing the scam thing that it took all the <br>attention.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>-- <br>Victor Grousset/tuxayo<br>_______________________________________________<br>Koha-devel mailing list<br>Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org <mailto:Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org> <br>https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>website : https://www.koha-community.org/<br>git : https://git.koha-community.org/<br>bugs : https://bugs.koha-community.org/<br><br><br><br><br> <br><br>-- <br><br>Tomás Cohen Arazi<br><br>Theke Solutions (http://theke.io <http://theke.io/> )<br>✆ +54 9351 3513384<br>GPG: B2F3C15F<br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/attachments/20220630/95c08e56/attachment-0001.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 09:35:05 +1000<br>From: <dcook@prosentient.com.au><br>To: "'Stowasser Rainer'" <rainer.stowasser@zamg.ac.at>, "'Thomas<br> Klausner'" <domm@plix.at>, "'Koha-devel'"<br> <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] ElasticSearch Geoserch<br>Message-ID: <080701d88c10$e6a75140$b3f5f3c0$@prosentient.com.au><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"<br><br>I don't think the link is working for me, but it's an interesting idea. <br><br>Where in the bib record are you storing the coordinate data? Have you looked at https://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/bd034.html? It looks like that field was redescribed in 2021 to perfectly suit your use case.<br><br>In terms of feasibility, I think the main change would be to add suitable indexes for 034 MARC21 data. Beyond that, I think a plugin would make the most sense for a frontend, as the geosearch would probably be fairly specific to your library's needs. But if you could think of a geosearch that is useful for other libraries as well, then I imagine it could make it into Koha. <br><br>I don't know if any of my libraries would use it, but it's interesting. It might be one of those things that people don't know that they want until after they see it in action? <br><br>Anyway, sounds cool!<br><br>David Cook<br>Senior Software Engineer<br>Prosentient Systems<br>Suite 7.03<br>6a Glen St<br>Milsons Point NSW 2061<br>Australia<br><br>Office: 02 9212 0899<br>Online: 02 8005 0595<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org> On Behalf Of Stowasser Rainer<br>Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2022 8:17 PM<br>To: Thomas Klausner <domm@plix.at>; Koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] ElasticSearch Geoserch<br><br>So that you get a feeling what Thomas is talking about<br><br>I want this<br><br>https://gisgba.geologie.ac.at/geonames/<br><br>as open source solution in koha<br><br>The customer ;-)<br><br>Kind regards<br>Hofrat Mag. Rainer Stowasser<br>Head of Library and Archives ZAMG<br><br>________________________________________<br>Von: Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces@lists.koha-community.org> im Auftrag von Thomas Klausner <domm@plix.at><br>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2022 12:04:39<br>An: Koha-devel<br>Betreff: [Koha-devel] ElasticSearch Geoserch<br><br>Hi!<br><br>We are currently discussing a project where a customer wants to add a geosearch to Koha (store lat/lng in biblio, use Elastic geo queries [0] together with a leaflet.js map to find biblios in a certain area).<br><br>I assume that might be of interest to Koha in general?<br><br>I also assume that this will only be possible via some changes to Koha core code (i.e. adding a new search field to ES and Koha, define mappings), while some things might be doable as a plugin (the "frontend"<br>map etc).<br><br>Before we start hacking I'd like to get some feedback from you:<br><br>* Would something like this be considered to be added to future Koha<br> versions?<br>* Do you think it's feasable / possible to add to Koha?<br>* Has anybody maybe done a geosearch before? (I couldn't find<br> anything..)<br><br>Greetings,<br>domm<br><br><br>0: https://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/6.8/geo-queries.html<br><br>--<br>#!/usr/bin/perl https://domm.plix.at<br>eor(ref bless{},just'another'perl'hacker){s-:+-$"-g&&print$_.$/}<br>_______________________________________________<br>Koha-devel mailing list<br>Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org<br>https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>website : https://www.koha-community.org/ git : https://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : https://bugs.koha-community.org/ EXTERNAL EMAIL: Do not click any links or open any attachments unless you trust the sender and know the content is safe.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Koha-devel mailing list<br>Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org<br>https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>website : https://www.koha-community.org/ git : https://git.koha-community.org/ bugs : https://bugs.koha-community.org/<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 4<br>Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 04:38:31 +0200<br>From: Victor Grousset/tuxayo <victor@tuxayo.net><br>To: 'koha-devel' <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes<br>Message-ID: <9deb0a8f-45f8-3c8a-e756-3f8a80cd9e5c@tuxayo.net><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed<br><br>On 22-06-30 01:20, dcook@prosentient.com.au wrote:<br>> Let's see what Gitlab says.<br><br>Yes, explaining the project and letting them decide is the best. Thanks <br>Tomas for taking the time.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>-- <br>Victor Grousset/tuxayo<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 5<br>Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2022 15:45:28 +1000<br>From: <dcook@prosentient.com.au><br>To: "'Koha-devel'" <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org><br>Subject: [Koha-devel] Koha Plugin for LibApps search source<br> (LibraryGuides)<br>Message-ID: <08d801d88c44$9dafd280$d90f7780$@prosentient.com.au><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"<br><br>Hi all,<br><br> <br><br>Has anyone done a Koha plugin for a LibApps search source? That is, adding<br>Koha as a custom search source for LibGuides?<br><br> <br><br>https://ask.springshare.com/libapps/faq/700<br><br> <br><br>David Cook<br><br>Senior Software Engineer<br><br>Prosentient Systems<br><br>Suite 7.03<br><br>6a Glen St<br><br>Milsons Point NSW 2061<br><br>Australia<br><br> <br><br>Office: 02 9212 0899<br><br>Online: 02 8005 0595<br><br> <br><br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>URL: <http://lists.koha-community.org/pipermail/koha-devel/attachments/20220630/345fc3cc/attachment.htm><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Subject: Digest Footer<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Koha-devel mailing list<br>Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org<br>https://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel<br>website : https://www.koha-community.org/<br>git : https://git.koha-community.org/<br>bugs : https://bugs.koha-community.org/<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>End of Koha-devel Digest, Vol 199, Issue 25<br>*******************************************<br></div><br><br>NOTE: You are receiving this mail because, the Requester/Technician wanted you to get notified on this request creation.<br></body></html>