From bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org Mon Sep 16 17:13:58 2024 From: bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org To: koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org Subject: [Koha-bugs] [Bug 37933] New: No space between title and medium Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 15:13:57 +0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1133798160128382798==" --===============1133798160128382798== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=37933 Bug ID: 37933 Summary: No space between title and medium Change sponsored?: --- Product: Koha Version: Main Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P5 - low Component: Templates Assignee: oleonard@myacpl.org Reporter: caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com QA Contact: testopia@bugs.koha-community.org There is no space between the title and the medium. I've only seen this in the heading on the bookings list page, but I think the problem is in biblio-title-head.inc, so it could pop up elsewhere. To replicate: 1. Find a biblio record 2. Edit the record to add 245$h (in MARC21) Optionally reorder the title subfields in this order a, n, p, h, b, c; the slash should also go at the end of 245$h 3. Go to the items tab on the left 4. Change Bookable to Yes and update 5. Go to the bookings tab on the left --> There is no space between the title and the medium 6. Go to the holds tab on the left --> Spacing is OK -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. --===============1133798160128382798==-- From bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org Tue Sep 17 05:27:56 2024 From: bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org To: koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org Subject: [Koha-bugs] [Bug 37933] No space between title and medium Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 03:27:55 +0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7091393331812902920==" --===============7091393331812902920== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3D37933 Phil Ringnalda changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |phil@chetcolibrary.org --- Comment #1 from Phil Ringnalda --- That janky title is all over the place, holds queue and holds to pull, element for detail.pl and MARCdetail.pl, <title> and in the body for ISBD, ci= rc history, place hold... I never actually noticed the lack of a space, because to a cataloger the way = it just jams subfields in out of their proper order without doing anything about the punctuation stands out far, far more. "Title. [GMD] / Season two" looked = at with cataloger eyes is horrifying, never mind the lack of a space. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. --===============7091393331812902920==-- From bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org Tue Sep 17 15:32:36 2024 From: bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org To: koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org Subject: [Koha-bugs] [Bug 37933] No space between title and medium Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2024 13:32:35 +0000 Message-ID: <bug-37933-70-xSzGFqb2Oa@https.bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/> In-Reply-To: <bug-37933-70@https.bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8511937803796006917==" --===============8511937803796006917== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3D37933 --- Comment #2 from Caroline Cyr La Rose <caroline.cyr-la-rose@inlibro.com> -= -- Yes the order was bothering me too tbh... The $n after the $h is very weird to me. But I don't know enough about subfield order to propose something. I had a short conversation with Heather on that subject on Mattermost https://chat.koha-community.org/koha-community/pl/gg9m75e443grmdxutduqqkthcw The best way the title and its subfields are handled is in detail.pl, but that is done with XSLT, not TT, so I don't know if it is possible to do it like th= at with TT. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. --===============8511937803796006917==-- From bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org Wed Sep 25 22:34:12 2024 From: bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org To: koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org Subject: [Koha-bugs] [Bug 37933] No space between title and medium Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2024 20:34:11 +0000 Message-ID: <bug-37933-70-rqAGKfCPZU@https.bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/> In-Reply-To: <bug-37933-70@https.bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0104908157451051927==" --===============0104908157451051927== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3D37933 Phil Ringnalda <phil@chetcolibrary.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Depends on| |11529 --- Comment #3 from Phil Ringnalda <phil@chetcolibrary.org> --- Well, it was possible to do it like detail.pl and we did, but as bug 11529 noted, it was expensive. And alas, that bug made the wrong choice, and rather than stick biblio.complete_title in the database it decided to jam in all the parts individually and then reassemble them without looking at the directions, which works fine if you only have two or three parts and there's only one way they can go together. There's absolutely no way to avoid the fact that that approach will turn some titles into a hopeless muddle: with parallel titles with part names and numbe= rs translated, you will have $aPhil's cataloging rants.$pTitles.$nPart 3 =3D$bLas diatribas sobre catalogaci=C3=B3n de Phil$pT=C3=ADtulos$nParte 3 / which won'= t be reassembled well as Phil's cataloging rants.Las diatribas sobre catalogaci=C3= =B3n de Phil.Part 3 =3DTitles.Parte 3 /T=C3=ADtulos We don't have a great track record with stripping and replacing punctuation, but possibly the simplest cases could be made a little better by stripping trailing ".", " :", and " /", and then for everything after title putting in the punctuation and spaces we think should go before it, based on the previous thing. Maybe. We've absolutely lost the game if anything ends with " =3D" so = I'm not sure what we could do there. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=3D11529 [Bug 11529] Add subtitle, medium and part fields to biblio table --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. --===============0104908157451051927==-- From bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org Thu Sep 26 03:41:57 2024 From: bugzilla-daemon@bugs.koha-community.org To: koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org Subject: [Koha-bugs] [Bug 37933] No space between title and medium Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2024 01:41:56 +0000 Message-ID: <bug-37933-70-ff39GEVhqY@https.bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/> In-Reply-To: <bug-37933-70@https.bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6999210835121307645==" --===============6999210835121307645== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=37933 --- Comment #4 from Phil Ringnalda <phil@chetcolibrary.org> --- As to the question of where $h belongs, that's not actually prescribed by MARC despite it mentioning the where a couple of times, but by AACR2, which wasn't ever online and is out of print. Happens I have a copy, though. GMD follows the "title proper," which by and large means after $a$n$p. That's what MARC says too, "It follows the title proper (subfields $a, $n, $p) and precedes the remainder of the title ($b)" But, that's MARC21. biblio-title-head.inc clearly supports UNIMARC too, with multiple subtitles, separated by commas in UNIMARC (and MARC21 doesn't support multiple subtitles, $b isn't repeatable). Ignoring the UNIMARC question, best for MARC21 would probably be biblio.title, part_numbers.[0], part_names.[0], biblio.medium, biblio.subtitle, part_numbers.[1-n], part_names.[1-n]. There are still a lot of things that would mess up, but I can't think of any where it's at all possible to get them right. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. --===============6999210835121307645==--