[Bug 29137] New: Unwanted to authorised values are too easily created via the cataloging module
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Bug ID: 29137 Summary: Unwanted to authorised values are too easily created via the cataloging module Change sponsored?: --- Product: Koha Version: master Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P5 - low Component: Cataloging Assignee: koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org Reporter: andrew@bywatersolutions.com QA Contact: testopia@bugs.koha-community.org CC: m.de.rooy@rijksmuseum.nl Depends on: 25728 https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25728#c50 "I don't like this patch at all! After just a few weeks we have dozens of new locations created by mistake, like HORS, FICT, NON-FI &c, &c Staff type just the first letters of a location and then hit enter, and voila, there is a new location! Please make a syspref for this, and make it disabled by default - or set it as a permission that could be turned off, even for superlibrarians" I very much agree with Klas here. This makes to much much too easy to create authorised values in error. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25728 [Bug 25728] Add the ability to create a new authorised value within the cataloguing module -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 --- Comment #1 from Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> --- part of this issue was resolved by bug 29030. But we absolutely need a way for this to be turned off entirely. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 --- Comment #2 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- Have you looked into removing the authorised values managing permission? I think it would be consequential, if you don't want people to add auth values to not allow it in another spot. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Margaret Hade <margaret@bywatersolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |margaret@bywatersolutions.c | |om -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Unwanted to authorised |Unwanted authorised values |values are too easily |are too easily created via |created via the cataloging |the cataloging module |module | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 --- Comment #3 from Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> --- Removing the permission would be effective for wholly disabling this feature for folks who are not superlibrarians. Ideally, superlibrarians who don't wish to use this would also have a way to turn it off. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Joy Nelson <joy@bywatersolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |joy@bywatersolutions.com --- Comment #4 from Joy Nelson <joy@bywatersolutions.com> --- Most catalogers (even non super librarians) will need the ability to manage authorised values. But what they need/value most of all is 'efficiency' in cataloging. For their workflows, they need the ability to quickly select a value in the drop down by typing the first couple letters and select the value, move on to the next dropdown. (reduction of number of clicks) What this featuer does is change their workflow and requires them to scroll instead of using the keyboard. We will see a cataloger revolt if we do not find a way to make this optional for catalogers. joy (In reply to Andrew Fuerste-Henry from comment #3)
Removing the permission would be effective for wholly disabling this feature for folks who are not superlibrarians. Ideally, superlibrarians who don't wish to use this would also have a way to turn it off.
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https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 --- Comment #5 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- I totally get the usability issue Joy point out. I just have a hard time about the "accidentally creating", because I believe the form that pops up makes it clear what you are doing there and will only appear if you have the permission to d the same thing in the administration module. What if we didn't suggest to create a new one on not finding a perfect match, but moved the option to the bottom of the list or outside the select2 pull down? Next to the item field where it could also be hidden? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart+koha@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |Needs Signoff -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 --- Comment #6 from Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart+koha@gmail.com> --- Created attachment 125473 --> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=125473&action=edit Bug 29137: Add new syspref to disable AV creation within the cataloguing module "I don't like this patch at all!" "We will see a cataloger revolt if we do not find a way to make this optional for catalogers." I imagined a hord of catalogers running behind me and I got scared. This patch will allow to turn the new feature added by bug 25728 off. Test plan: Confirm that the new CreateAVFromCataloguing will permit to turn the feature off. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart+koha@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Assignee|koha-bugs@lists.koha-commun |jonathan.druart+koha@gmail. |ity.org |com CC| |jonathan.druart+koha@gmail. | |com Depends on| |29030 --- Comment #7 from Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart+koha@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #5)
I totally get the usability issue Joy point out.
I just have a hard time about the "accidentally creating", because I believe the form that pops up makes it clear what you are doing there and will only appear if you have the permission to d the same thing in the administration module.
Same here, with bug 29030 I don't see how it could still be a problem. But here you go, this patch will permit to turn the feature off. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29030 [Bug 29030] Problems introduced by bug 25728 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Needs Signoff |Signed Off -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #125473|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #8 from Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> --- Created attachment 125542 --> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=125542&action=edit Bug 29137: Add new syspref to disable AV creation within the cataloguing module "I don't like this patch at all!" "We will see a cataloger revolt if we do not find a way to make this optional for catalogers." I imagined a hord of catalogers running behind me and I got scared. This patch will allow to turn the new feature added by bug 25728 off. Test plan: Confirm that the new CreateAVFromCataloguing will permit to turn the feature off. Signed-off-by: Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 --- Comment #9 from Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> --- I'll admit to a bit of pearl-clutching overreaction on this. I hadn't yet seen 29030 when I filed this. Like Joy and Jonathan, I also fear torch-wielding catalogers. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 --- Comment #10 from Joy Nelson <joy@bywatersolutions.com> --- Thank you everyone! This fix will really make 'hi-efficiency', keyboard centric catalogers very happy. :D joy (In reply to Andrew Fuerste-Henry from comment #9)
I'll admit to a bit of pearl-clutching overreaction on this. I hadn't yet seen 29030 when I filed this. Like Joy and Jonathan, I also fear torch-wielding catalogers. Thanks!
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https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Nick Clemens <nick@bywatersolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Signed Off |Passed QA -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Nick Clemens <nick@bywatersolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #125542|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #11 from Nick Clemens <nick@bywatersolutions.com> --- Created attachment 125546 --> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=125546&action=edit Bug 29137: Add new syspref to disable AV creation within the cataloguing module "I don't like this patch at all!" "We will see a cataloger revolt if we do not find a way to make this optional for catalogers." I imagined a hord of catalogers running behind me and I got scared. This patch will allow to turn the new feature added by bug 25728 off. Test plan: Confirm that the new CreateAVFromCataloguing will permit to turn the feature off. Signed-off-by: Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> Signed-off-by: Nick Clemens <nick@bywatersolutions.com> -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Jason Vasche <jvasche@roundrocktexas.gov> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jvasche@roundrocktexas.gov --- Comment #12 from Jason Vasche <jvasche@roundrocktexas.gov> --- Joy described my (and my RRPL colleagues') need for efficiency in cataloging workflow perfectly in comment 4. We would love to have a way to completely turn off AV creation in the cataloging module, thanks to all involved for patching this bug! *hides unlit torch behind back and whistles nonchalantly* -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart+koha@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version(s)| |21.11.00 released in| | Status|Passed QA |Pushed to master -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 --- Comment #13 from Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart+koha@gmail.com> --- Pushed to master for 21.11, thanks to everybody involved! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Bug 29137 depends on bug 29030, which changed state. Bug 29030 Summary: Problems introduced by bug 25728 https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29030 What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Pushed to master |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Kyle M Hall <kyle@bywatersolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |kyle@bywatersolutions.com Status|Pushed to master |Pushed to stable Version(s)|21.11.00 |21.11.00,21.05.05 released in| | --- Comment #14 from Kyle M Hall <kyle@bywatersolutions.com> --- Pushed to 21.05.x for 21.05.05 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Fridolin Somers <fridolin.somers@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Version(s)|21.11.00,21.05.05 |21.11.00,21.05.05,20.11.11 released in| | Status|Pushed to stable |Pushed to oldstable CC| |fridolin.somers@biblibre.co | |m --- Comment #15 from Fridolin Somers <fridolin.somers@biblibre.com> --- Pushed to 20.11.x for 20.11.11 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Victor Grousset/tuxayo <victor@tuxayo.net> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |victor@tuxayo.net Status|Pushed to oldstable |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #16 from Victor Grousset/tuxayo <victor@tuxayo.net> --- Missing dependencies for 20.05.x, not affected, no backport. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29137 Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart+koha@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks| |29286 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29286 [Bug 29286] Typo: Librarien will need the manage_auth_values subpermission. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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