[Bug 31169] New: [OMNIBUS] Problems with forced holds (AllowHoldPolicyOverride)
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 Bug ID: 31169 Summary: [OMNIBUS] Problems with forced holds (AllowHoldPolicyOverride) Change sponsored?: --- Product: Koha Version: master Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P5 - low Component: Hold requests Assignee: koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org Reporter: katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de QA Contact: testopia@bugs.koha-community.org CC: gmcharlt@gmail.com When holds are forced, this can create several issues. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks| |26841, 28788 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26841 [Bug 26841] No warning if a hold on an available item is placed in staff with AllowHoldPolicyOverride https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=28788 [Bug 28788] Default holds policy by item type can be overridden but holds will not capture -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks| |13559, 17884, 26463, 27895, | |30687 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=13559 [Bug 13559] Forced item level hold should be highlighted on return https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=17884 [Bug 17884] troubles with syspref AllowHoldPolicyOverride on return https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26463 [Bug 26463] AllowHoldPolicyOverride overrides too many holds policies https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27895 [Bug 27895] Internal server error when trying to change pickup location for a hold with no valid locations https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=30687 [Bug 30687] Unable to override hold policy if no pickup locations are available -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 Emily Lamancusa <emily.lamancusa@montgomerycountymd.gov> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks| |20955 CC| |emily.lamancusa@montgomeryc | |ountymd.gov Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20955 [Bug 20955] Add ability to trigger holds that violate holds policies (overridden holds) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 Chanel Wheeler <chanel.wheeler@yavapaiaz.gov> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |chanel.wheeler@yavapaiaz.go | |v --- Comment #1 from Chanel Wheeler <chanel.wheeler@yavapaiaz.gov> --- As I understand it, this bug is for when AllowHoldPolicyOverride setting silently overrides holds that should be blocked by the Default Holds Policies by Item Type table. This is huge problem for us. It will require hundreds more circ rules for our 59 libraries to make up for the Default Holds Policies table not being respected. If the interface would tell the staff person that only an override can allow the hold and gives them the button to do so that would be an acceptable compromise. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 --- Comment #2 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- Hi Chanel, it's a general override. The circ rules won't block a hold either if its explicitly overriden, neither does the max holds settings etc. If you don't want this to be possible best would be to keep the preference off. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 --- Comment #3 from Chanel Wheeler <chanel.wheeler@yavapaiaz.gov> --- Hi Katrin, libraries often get permission from other libraries to override the blocked hold and in those cases it's ok so we need the override system setting. That said, the system shouldn't automatically be ignoring the Default Holds table. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 --- Comment #4 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- I think at the moment it's just not a very "differentiated" override. It's a "override all possible limitations". If you want to differentiate different cases, this would definitely need development. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 Nick Clemens (kidclamp) <nick@bywatersolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |https://bugs.koha-community | |.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi | |?id=35573 CC| |nick@bywatersolutions.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks| |27464 CC| |andrew@bywatersolutions.com Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=27464 [Bug 27464] Extend functionality of AllowHoldsPolicyOverride to prevent some overrides -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 Cheryl <clackman@fargolibrary.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |clackman@fargolibrary.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dcook@prosentient.com.au --- Comment #5 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- I reckon that the "Blocks" should actually be "Depends on", no? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |https://bugs.koha-community | |.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi | |?id=42863 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31169 David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blocks|20955 | Depends on| |20955 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20955 [Bug 20955] Add ability to trigger item-level holds that violate holds policies (overridden holds) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
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