[Bug 14285] New: Bengali locale needs to be re-defined
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 Bug ID: 14285 Summary: Bengali locale needs to be re-defined Change sponsored?: --- Product: Koha Version: master Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P5 - low Component: translate.koha-community.org Assignee: bgkriegel@gmail.com Reporter: indradg@gmail.com QA Contact: testopia@bugs.koha-community.org Dear Bernardo, Bengali [1] needs to split up from current 'ben' into bn-IN [2] and bn-BD [3] Could you please look into it? thanks :) References: [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_language [2] http://www.localeplanet.com/icu/bn-IN/index.html [3] http://www.localeplanet.com/icu/bn-BD/index.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 --- Comment #1 from Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <bgkriegel@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Indranil Das Gupta from comment #0)
Dear Bernardo,
Bengali [1] needs to split up from current 'ben' into bn-IN [2] and bn-BD [3]
Hi Indranil, no problem, just a couple of things: 1) Agreed to change ben -> bn 2) Is Bengali different in India and Bangladesh? I mean script and/or words Spanish for example has many local ways to name things, but we all agreed to maintain only one version, es-ES, although most users are not in Spain. German for example has two versions (DE and CH), but that is justified by different spelling. So, if a split is needed, to which version (IN BD) current files belongs? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 Indranil Das Gupta <indradg@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |In Discussion --- Comment #2 from Indranil Das Gupta <indradg@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel from comment #1)
(In reply to Indranil Das Gupta from comment #0)
Dear Bernardo,
Bengali [1] needs to split up from current 'ben' into bn-IN [2] and bn-BD [3]
Hi Indranil, no problem, just a couple of things:
1) Agreed to change ben -> bn
Great! doing this will also automatically fix the non-display of 'native_description' in the lang switcher. Currently it shows "ben" instead of "বাংলা" (i tested last night :)
2) Is Bengali different in India and Bangladesh? I mean script and/or words
The script used is same, but Unicode locales are different. The annual calendars not same. The official (government mandated) spelling rules (in West Bengal, India and in Bangladesh) are different. Also, Bangladesh being a Muslim majority country, there are several differences beginning with forms of address (Shri / Srimaan vs Janaab [for Mr] etc. Currency names are different. The form of language (idioms / turns of phrase etc) used also differ quite significantly, which has a direct impact on any translation project.
So, if a split is needed, to which version (IN BD) current files belongs?
Speaking from experience as a BN localizer for projects like GNOME, KDE, Fedora, Ubuntu, OpenOffice.org and Mozilla - I would say at the time locale split, seed both locales with the existing inputs, then let the locale specific localizers modify that at their end. to be honest, the ben files are hardly maintained, but that is a situation i intend to rectify by 3.22 release. hope that helps. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 --- Comment #3 from Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <bgkriegel@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Indranil Das Gupta from comment #2)
(In reply to Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel from comment #1)
(In reply to Indranil Das Gupta from comment #0) [SNIP] hope that helps.
A lot :) My plan: 1) rename current ben-* files to bn-IN-* 2) Add IN code description, I need 'India' in Bengali please :) 3) When this pass, rename language and files on translation server 4) bn-BE could be added, but upon request (from a possible maintainer) Do you agree? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 --- Comment #4 from Indranil Das Gupta <indradg@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel from comment #3)
(In reply to Indranil Das Gupta from comment #2)
(In reply to Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel from comment #1)
(In reply to Indranil Das Gupta from comment #0) <snipped>
My plan: 1) rename current ben-* files to bn-IN-*
+1
2) Add IN code description, I need 'India' in Bengali please :)
that would be "ভারত" (you can also pick it up from the article title here - http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%A4)
3) When this pass, rename language and files on translation server
Sounds good!
4) bn-BE could be added, but upon request (from a possible maintainer)
BD is Bangladesh's 2-letter country code under ISO 3166-2, whereas BE is used to Belgium. But that part of the exercise is best left to the Translation Manager and the locale maintainer :-)
Do you agree?
Absolutely! thanks a bunch for this! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 --- Comment #5 from Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <bgkriegel@gmail.com> --- Created attachment 39640 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=39640&action=edit Bug 14285: Bengali locale needs to be re-defined This patch renames translation files for Bengali language, from ben-* to bn-IN-*. Also adds India as region To test: 1) Apply the patch 2) Run updatedatabase 3) Install Bengali language cd misc/translator perl translate install bn-IN enable Check correct description 4) Create and install a fake Bengali variant cd misc/translator perl translate create bn-XX perl translate install bn-XX enable both variants Check correct rendering of region -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <bgkriegel@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|In Discussion |Needs Signoff Patch complexity|--- |Trivial patch Severity|enhancement |trivial --- Comment #6 from Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <bgkriegel@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Indranil Das Gupta from comment #4)
that would be "ভারত" (you can also pick it up from the article title here - http://bn.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%A4)
Hehe, I know it was there, but can't find it :)
4) bn-BE could be added, but upon request (from a possible maintainer)
BD is Bangladesh's 2-letter country code under ISO 3166-2, whereas BE is used to Belgium. But that part of the exercise is best left to the Translation Manager and the locale maintainer :-)
Oops, my mistake. Ready for sign. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 Indranil Das Gupta <indradg@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #39640|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #7 from Indranil Das Gupta <indradg@gmail.com> --- Created attachment 39646 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=39646&action=edit Bug 14285: Bengali locale needs to be re-defined This patch renames translation files for Bengali language, from ben-* to bn-IN-*. Also adds India as region To test: 1) Apply the patch 2) Run updatedatabase 3) Install Bengali language cd misc/translator perl translate install bn-IN enable Check correct description 4) Create and install a fake Bengali variant cd misc/translator perl translate create bn-XX perl translate install bn-XX enable both variants Check correct rendering of region Results comply with expected test plan outcome. Signed off for bn-IN Signed-off-by: Indranil Das Gupta (L2C2 Technologies) <indradg@gmail.com> -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 Indranil Das Gupta <indradg@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Needs Signoff |Signed Off -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 --- Comment #8 from Indranil Das Gupta <indradg@gmail.com> --- Created attachment 39651 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=39651&action=edit pre patch and post patch display of Bengali -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de --- Comment #9 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- This seems to work ok, but my display doesn't match the screenshot. The language is shown diretly, there is no list functionality - should there be one? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 --- Comment #10 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- ok... following the test plan more closely I can see now it works :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Signed Off |Passed QA -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #39646|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #11 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- Created attachment 39711 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=39711&action=edit [PASSED QA] Bug 14285: Bengali locale needs to be re-defined This patch renames translation files for Bengali language, from ben-* to bn-IN-*. Also adds India as region To test: 1) Apply the patch 2) Run updatedatabase 3) Install Bengali language cd misc/translator perl translate install bn-IN enable Check correct description 4) Create and install a fake Bengali variant cd misc/translator perl translate create bn-XX perl translate install bn-XX enable both variants Check correct rendering of region Results comply with expected test plan outcome. Signed off for bn-IN Signed-off-by: Indranil Das Gupta (L2C2 Technologies) <indradg@gmail.com> Signed-off-by: Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer.83@web.de> -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 Tomás Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Passed QA |Pushed to Master CC| |tomascohen@gmail.com --- Comment #12 from Tomás Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com> --- Patch pushed to master. Thanks Bernardo! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 --- Comment #13 from Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <bgkriegel@gmail.com> --- Files renamed on translation server for 3.20/18/16 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14285 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |frederic@tamil.fr Component|translate.koha-community.or |I18N/L10N |g | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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