[Bug 24550] New: Books renewals triggers item loan policies to revert to branch renewing item
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24550 Bug ID: 24550 Summary: Books renewals triggers item loan policies to revert to branch renewing item Change sponsored?: --- Product: Koha Version: 19.05 Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P5 - low Component: Circulation Assignee: koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org Reporter: rrussell@pacificoaks.edu QA Contact: testopia@bugs.koha-community.org CC: gmcharlt@gmail.com, kyle.m.hall@gmail.com Created attachment 98192 --> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=98192&action=edit Renewal changes item policies Since the new update, we've noticed issues with our items not following policies from their home branch, triggering overdue notices, causing issues with holds, not charging fines, and reverting to the default branch. Not certain if self renewal is triggering this as well. These were never issues before. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24550 Lisette Scheer <lisetteslatah@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |lisetteslatah@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Lisette Scheer <lisetteslatah@gmail.com> --- With 19.05 there was a fix that changed how the 2 system prefs CircControl HomeOrHoldingBranch worked. It sounds like they should both be set to home branch/item's home library. Can you check and make sure both of these preferences are set this way? Lisette -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24550 --- Comment #2 from R Russell <rrussell@pacificoaks.edu> --- We didn't change anything. This just started to happen. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24550 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de --- Comment #3 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- What are your settings for the prefs Lisette listed? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24550 --- Comment #4 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- Still waiting for more information from the reporter of this bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24550 Jason Robb <jrobb@sekls.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |jrobb@sekls.org --- Comment #5 from Jason Robb <jrobb@sekls.org> --- We're experiencing similar in 21.11. My sysprefs are: - CircControl: at the library you are logged in at - HomeOrHoldingBranch: the item's holding library (holdingbranch) The two sysprefs seem to conflict where renewals are involved. The logged in librarian's rules are always used to dictate renewals rather than the item holding branch's rules. To replicate: - Set CircControl and HomeOrHoldingBranch as noted above - Check out an item while logged in as Library A where the circ/renew period is set to 7 days - Switch to Library B where the circ/renew period is 14 days - Renew the item while logged in as Library B, the new due date is 14 days later A few savvy users have figured out that they can call a library with a longer loan period for renewal to get a bigger extension on their checkouts. It would be nice if renewal behavior could be explicitly defined to follow the rules of the library of the initial checkout to close that loophole. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24550 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME Status|NEW |RESOLVED --- Comment #6 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- (In reply to Jason Robb from comment #5)
It would be nice if renewal behavior could be explicitly defined to follow the rules of the library of the initial checkout to close that loophole.
The system preferences are explained well here: https://bywatersolutions.com/education/monday-minutes-circulation-rules-for-... I'd say it works as described. HomeOrHoldingBranch doesn't take effect, CircControl does. I think it would not make sense to pull some values from one rule and others from another. If you use the loan period from one library, also their renewal rules should apply. Maybe "the library the item is from" + holding branch would work like you expect? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
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