[Bug 7840] New: Koha as a CMS
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 Priority: P5 - low Change sponsored?: --- Bug ID: 7840 Assignee: nengard@gmail.com Summary: Koha as a CMS QA Contact: koha.sekjal@gmail.com Severity: enhancement Classification: Unclassified OS: All Reporter: magnus@enger.priv.no Hardware: All Status: NEW Version: master Component: Documentation Product: Koha * magnuse has a library asking about "Using Koha as a Content Management System" <magnuse> http://manual.koha-community.org/3.6/en/kohacms.html <magnuse> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Koha_as_a_CMS <magnuse> no plan on implementing that hack - feels like it should either be part of koha or removed from the manual? <kf> magnuse: I guess perhaps implementing the hack as a real featurew would be nice <kf> I have had some problems with editing localuse prefernces :( there is a bug <kf> on bugzilla for that <kf> magnuse: perhaps it could be an enhancement to work similar to the news? <slef> we've used koha as a CMS before. Not sure if it was that hack or an earlier one. Basically: don't. Use a CMS. <kf> slef: I agree, but an option to add a few pages is nice <kf> slef: not full cms functionality, but perhaps things like a help page <slef> anyone like to open a bug suggesting dropping Appendix E from the manual, or integrate it properly, using extending news instead of using sysprefs? So what do we want to do? 1. Remove appendix E from the manual? 2. Implement limited CMS-functionality properly? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 MJ Ray (software.coop) <mjr@ttllp.co.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mjr@ttllp.co.uk Summary|Koha as a CMS |Remove from manual Koha as | |a CMS (or add it to master) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 --- Comment #1 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- Magnus, I know people who are using this feature and so I don't want to remove it from the manual - even if it is a hack - it works. Once the new way is implemented we can put that in instead. Nicole -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |gmcharlt@gmail.com --- Comment #2 from Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com> --- My personal inclination (though one not yet backed by any patches) would be to turn Koha-as-CMS into a proper feature, along the lines of: - add a syspref to enable it - create an admin page to manage the page_* sysprefs - use TinyMCE as a WYSIWYG editor (this is inspired by some IRC discussion today) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 --- Comment #3 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- (In reply to comment #2)
My personal inclination (though one not yet backed by any patches) would be to turn Koha-as-CMS into a proper feature, along the lines of:
I agree! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 Viktor Sarge <viktor.sarge@regionhalland.se> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |viktor.sarge@regionhalland. | |se --- Comment #4 from Viktor Sarge <viktor.sarge@regionhalland.se> --- I´d too like to see this as a proper feature. Koha handles replacing the current web frontends quite good and only really lacks when it comes to CMS-functionality. What I would consider a good baseline is: * Wysiwyg editing of pages. * A few levels deep of pages (horizontal navigation bar + left hand navigation working together) I´d be interested to hear from someone in the know what this would take to implement. We know we will want to do some development during late 2013/2014 and I'd like to know if this is something we could afford to fund/co-fund. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de --- Comment #5 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- I think maybe we could use the news tool for this. The advantage of the news tool is, that it already has some CMS-like functionality and allows you to add content in multiple languages. The system preferences are always limited in that area. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 --- Comment #6 from Viktor Sarge <viktor.sarge@regionhalland.se> --- Using the news tool sounds like a good start. I'd say baseline would be to light up pages with content in the main area created with the news tool. The ability to also publish a right hand column (perhaps in the popular "right hand boxes" style) would be great. Language handling is good - but I´d say we also need the possibility to publish a page "for all langugages that doesn't have their own version of the page". If it isn't already possible that is. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 --- Comment #7 from Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com> --- (In reply to comment #5)
I think maybe we could use the news tool for this. The advantage of the news tool is, that it already has some CMS-like functionality and allows you to add content in multiple languages. The system preferences are always limited in that area.
Interesting idea. There are a couple aspects of OPAC news as it exists now that don't map cleanly to the Koha-as-CMS hack, most particularly title and number, but possibly also expirationdate. However, a bit of refactoring of the database tables might lead us to something like this: CREATE TABLE page_content ( id int(10) not null auto_increment, html text not null, PRIMARY KEY (id) ); CREATE TABLE `opac_news` ( -- data from the news tool `idnew` int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment, -- unique identifier for the news article `title` varchar(250) NOT NULL default '', -- title of the news article `lang` varchar(25) NOT NULL default '', -- location for the article (koha is the staff client, slip is the circulation receipt and language codes are for the opac) `timestamp` timestamp NOT NULL default CURRENT_TIMESTAMP, -- pulibcation date and time `expirationdate` date default NULL, -- date the article is set to expire or no longer be visible `number` int(11) default NULL, -- the order in which this article appears in that specific location, page_content_id int(10) not null, CONSTRAINT opac_news_fk1 FOREIGN KEY (page_content_id) REFERENCES page_content (id) ON DELETE RESTRICT ON UPDATE CASCADE PRIMARY KEY (`idnew`) ) ENGINE=InnoDB DEFAULT CHARSET=utf8; CREATE TABLE cms_page ( id int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment, default_page_content_id int(10) null, -- page to use if no specific matching language available PRIMARY KEY (id), CONSTRAINT cms_page_fk1 FOREIGN KEY (default_page_content_id) REFERENCES page_content (id) ON DELETE SET NULL ON UPDATE CASCADE ); CREATE TABLE cms_page_lang_map ( id int(10) unsigned NOT NULL auto_increment, lang varchar(25) NOT NULL default '' page_content_id int(10) not null, PRIMARY KEY (id), CONSTRAINT cms_page_lang_map_fk1 FOREIGN KEY (default_page_content_id) REFERENCES page_content (id) ON DELETE CASCADE ON UPDATE CASCADE ) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 --- Comment #8 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- I know that CMS like Typo3 let you set an expiration date for your pages - so that's not unseen in a CMS and you can leave it empty to mean forever. But it seems you need a start date that is at least "yesterday". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 --- Comment #9 from Viktor Sarge <viktor.sarge@regionhalland.se> --- Created attachment 19147 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=19147&action=edit Mockup with idea for primary navbar with Koha as CMS I'm trying out some mockups of how Koha as CMS might look to the patron. As I don't use it as of now this might be redundant but this is how I'd imagine it. Since there is already the head with a black horizontal cross-site navigation I'm going with tabs. (I'll go think about how a third level page or similar might look and post something there too) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 --- Comment #10 from Viktor Sarge <viktor.sarge@regionhalland.se> --- Created attachment 19149 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=19149&action=edit Mockup with third level page displayed This is a mockup of the tabbed main nag + left hand navigation that goes two levels deep. I'm not completely happy with how the different levels of the left hand navigation is displayed. Some kind of highlight might work to give focus to the active page in the left hand navbar. * The main area of the page is though to come from the news-functionality. * The main nav and left hand bar i auto generated. Some kind of "create a new page"-functionality will be required here to create a page, give it a name, give it a title in the navigation and place it in the hierarchy. * The box(es) on the right hand column should also be created with the news tool and I'd rather see that they are standardized then user-created boxes through hacking a two column layout in the main area. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 Indranil Das Gupta <indradg@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |indradg@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 Gaetan Boisson <gaetan.boisson@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |http://bugs.koha-community. | |org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi? | |id=14980 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=7840 Gaetan Boisson <gaetan.boisson@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |gaetan.boisson@biblibre.com --- Comment #11 from Gaetan Boisson <gaetan.boisson@biblibre.com> --- See Fridolin's POC on bug 14980. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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