http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 Josef Moravec <josef.moravec@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |josef.moravec@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 Mike <black23@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |black23@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 paxed <pasi.kallinen@pttk.fi> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |pasi.kallinen@pttk.fi --- Comment #3 from paxed <pasi.kallinen@pttk.fi> --- "m- Mixed" in Marc21 007 builder. It's used in two different meanings for electronic resources: 007/03 (color) and 007/11 (antecedent/source). For color it means a mix of color and B&W, for source it means the source is of mixed type. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #5 from paxed <pasi.kallinen@pttk.fi> --- "From" - is that "Starting from"? or "Changed from this text"? (members-update uses it in the "text is changed from this" meaning, and everywhere else it's used in "starting from this" meaning) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #7 from paxed <pasi.kallinen@pttk.fi> --- (In reply to paxed from comment #5)

"From" - is that "Starting from"? or "Changed from this text"?

(members-update uses it in the "text is changed from this" meaning, and everywhere else it's used in "starting from this" meaning)

members-update also has "To", meaning "Changed to this text", instead of a "end of range", as it means everywhere else. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #9 from paxed <pasi.kallinen@pttk.fi> --- "Checked" - used in both suggestions and z3950 server list. In the z39.50 context, it means "chosen for search by default", IIRC, and in the suggestions it means the suggestion was "verified" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #11 from Héctor Eduardo Castro Avalos <hector.hecaxmmx@gmail.com> --- There are many files involving this change of terminology/vocabulary, for example only with the "Card" word. File in Pootle program is: xx-XX-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po The entry is "Card" Locations: Applying Engard's suggestion, Card view to ISBD view. (see comment 2) ISBD view #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/z3950_search.tt:162 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/z3950_search.tt:177 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/addbooks.tt:150 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/addbooks.tt:193 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/z3950_search.tt:172 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/addorderiso2709.tt:196 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel.tt:289 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel.tt:437 Patron card #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/serials/member-search.tt:55 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/patron_lists/list.tt:142 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/member.tt:165 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/patroncards/members-search.tt:77 I only attach the files for "Patron card" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #12 from Héctor Eduardo Castro Avalos <hector.hecaxmmx@gmail.com> --- Created attachment 31419 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=31419&action=edit intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/member.tt -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #14 from Héctor Eduardo Castro Avalos <hector.hecaxmmx@gmail.com> --- Created attachment 31421 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=31421&action=edit intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/patroncards/members-search.tt -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #15 from Marc Véron <veron@veron.ch> --- (In reply to paxed from comment #9)

"Checked" - used in both suggestions and z3950 server list. In the z39.50 context, it means "chosen for search by default", IIRC, and in the suggestions it means the suggestion was "verified"

Confirmed.... ...and in German, that leads to "Geprüft" in z3950 server list (wrong!), should be something like "Standardsuche". For suggestions, "Geprüft" would be OK. It is impossible to resolve this in translations without changing the original wording. See koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/admin/z3950servers.tt koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/suggestion/suggestion.tt -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #16 from Marc Véron <veron@veron.ch> --- See Bug 12882 for disambiguation of word "Checked" in Z39.50 server administration. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #18 from Marc Véron <veron@veron.ch> --- (In reply to Marc Véron from comment #17)

From IRC http://irc.koha-community.org/koha/2014-09-09#i_1565014

Disambiguation of word "term"

Cait: could we differentiate term too? we ran into this a few days ago - term (like a search term) and term (like a time span in course reserves) - it's pretty confusing

I found: "term-time" for time span in course reserves http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/dings.cgi?lang=de&service=deen&opterrors=0&optpro=0&query=term+time http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/term-time "search term" for German "Suchbegriff", French "Terme de recherche" http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/deutsch-englisch/Suchbegriff.html -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #20 from Héctor Eduardo Castro Avalos <hector.hecaxmmx@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Marc Véron from comment #19)

Comments from 12882:

M. de Rooy: Note btw that changing strings because of translation limitations is imo not really ideal. It is a workaround; we probably should make changes to the translation process, which is of course much harder..

paxed: msgctxt

MV: See https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/html_node/Contexts.html (...) Contexts can be added to strings to be translated. A context dependent translation lookup is when a translation for a given string is searched, that is limited to a given context. The translation for the same string in a different context can be different. The different translations of the same string in different contexts can be stored in the in the same MO file, and can be edited by the translator in the same PO file. (...) const char *pgettext (const char *msgctxt, const char *msgid); (...) pgettext ("Menu|File|", "Open") (...) pgettext ("Menu|Printer|", "Open")

Sounds interesting.

Hi, Marc Sounds good your solution, because it's annoying for users to see bad translations. It's like you're not doing well done your work. Confirm us when implementing GNU gettext -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=11285 --- Comment #22 from Héctor Eduardo Castro Avalos <hector.hecaxmmx@gmail.com> --- (In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #21)

Running into the problem with "term" again - which has 2 different meanings in German. Any progress on this?

translate script with msgctxt must do something like: #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/serials/member-search.tt:55 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/patron_lists/list.tt:142 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/members/member.tt:165 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/patroncards/members-search.tt:77 msgctxt "Patron card" msgid "Card" msgstr "" ⁠ #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/z3950_search.tt:162 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/z3950_search.tt:177 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/addbooks.tt:150 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/addbooks.tt:193 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/z3950_search.tt:172 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/addorderiso2709.tt:196 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel.tt:289 #: intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/acqui/parcel.tt:437 msgctxt "ISBD Card" msgid "Card" msgstr "" All the files containing the word "Card" or "Term" must have useful comments like <!--Patron card--> and then the script must recognize the Disambiguation of contexts. I will try to study a case by case basis, but first i need to know how these scripts work Regards -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.