https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 Lisette Scheer <lisetteslatah@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |lisetteslatah@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Lisette Scheer <lisetteslatah@gmail.com> --- This would be very helpful! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 koha-US bug tracker <bugzilla@koha-us.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |bugzilla@koha-us.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 Magnus Enger <magnus@libriotech.no> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |magnus@libriotech.no -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 Arthur Suzuki <arthur.suzuki@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |arthur.suzuki@biblibre.com --- Comment #3 from Arthur Suzuki <arthur.suzuki@biblibre.com> --- I definitely love the idea :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 Martin Renvoize <martin.renvoize@ptfs-europe.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |martin.renvoize@ptfs-europe | |.com --- Comment #5 from Martin Renvoize <martin.renvoize@ptfs-europe.com> --- Nice, we're in 2020 now, I wonder if things have stablised enough to attempt adding such functionality now. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 --- Comment #7 from Tomáš Wünsch <fraktik@gmail.com> --- I would also love this feature very much. I am trying to learn how to process an complete audit of whole library without moving all those items from shelves to the desk and back or buying laptops just for this purpose. We are obligated to do this every second or fifth year here in Czech Republic, and it is every time quite an operation - we have 10 "big" (20-80k) and 100 small (2-6k of volumes) local libraries. As of now, smoothest solution I see in Android tablets/phablets/phones + dedicated readers (we have USB versions, but I am thinking about buying some Bluetooth variations, any experience or recomendation in this field)? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 Fiona Borthwick <fiona.borthwick@ptfs-europe.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |fiona.borthwick@ptfs-europe | |.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 --- Comment #9 from Martin Renvoize <martin.renvoize@ptfs-europe.com> --- *** Bug 25644 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 --- Comment #11 from koha-US bug tracker <bugzilla@koha-us.org> --- I would want a system for this type of self-check that could be configured on a a library-by-library basis. I have some that have no security system, some that have older security systems using tattle-tape, and some that have RFID. If a library has an older system that requires demagnetizing tattle-tape, the check-out process will not handle the tattle tape, so those libraries will not want borrowers to check themselves out with a phone. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 Rebecca Coert <rcoert@arlingtonva.us> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |rcoert@arlingtonva.us -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |dcook@prosentient.com.au --- Comment #12 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- (In reply to Martin Renvoize from comment #8)

https://zxing-js.github.io/library/ Looks promising

Back in June 2021, I did a local implementation using version 0.0.9 of https://github.com/zxing-js/browser It was easy enough to do, but the library didn't work that well. Performance ranged heavily between mobile devices (with cheaper devices not working well or at all in many cases), and even with a good more expensive device it could take a lot of attempts to get 1 good scan as the camera wouldn't focus on the barcode very well. We ended up discarding the implementation and integrating with third-party commercial software which worked much much better. -- I can share my zxing-js implementation, but I wouldn't recommend anyone use it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |In Discussion --- Comment #14 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- In my original version, I wrapped the buttons with a system preference. I left it off here just for ease of testing. I just double-checked it worked using my webcam and a barcode from my breakfast. It took a bit of time and physical manipulation, but it managed to scan the barcode. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 --- Comment #16 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- (In reply to Christopher Brannon from comment #15)

Very cool!

I liked it! It tends to work better on higher end devices. We found cheaper smart phones didn't work very well. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 --- Comment #17 from Martin Renvoize <martin.renvoize@ptfs-europe.com> --- Looks like there's a patch to test here, thanks David. I'm resetting to NSO -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 --- Comment #19 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- (In reply to Lucas Gass from comment #18)

Very cool, David. Do you we need to add license information to the about page ZXing library?

For some reason I thought people meant David Nind. Glad I decided to double-check the bug. Yeah, we'd better do that. This looks like the one: https://github.com/zxing-js/browser/blob/master/LICENSE -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 Philip Orr <philip.orr@lmscloud.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patch complexity|--- |Small patch Status|Needs Signoff |Signed Off -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 Philip Orr <philip.orr@lmscloud.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |philip.orr@lmscloud.de --- Comment #22 from Philip Orr <philip.orr@lmscloud.de> --- I tested this using only my laptop webcam. Worked for me with: - barcodes on books - barcode on my phone screen Did not work with barcodes on reflective things. For instance I tried scanning the barcode on a bag of chips - didn't work. Still very cool! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 --- Comment #24 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- (In reply to Owen Leonard from comment #23)

I'm concerned that while cool, this isn't reliable enough to offer.

Agreed. That's why we abandoned this path. It just wasn't reliable enough, and the Zxing library isn't that well supported. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 --- Comment #26 from Martin Renvoize <martin.renvoize@ptfs-europe.com> --- What were saying here is that to reliably scan barcode from the web on any platform you'll need to pay to use a service. Scandit, https://www.scandit.com/pricing/, as mentioned by David are the main one out there to my knowledge. Unfortunately, Android and iOS don't have any SDK's or similar to expose barcode data via their built in systems. I imagine there's commercial reasons for that somewhere along the line and unfortunately the open source alternative, xzing, doesn't perform well on anything but the highest specification platforms. We could ensure hooks are available in core for a plugin to support paid options like scandit, though it sounds like that's really already possible anyway as David seems to utilise that route. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 --- Comment #27 from David Cook <dcook@prosentient.com.au> --- (In reply to Christopher Brannon from comment #25)

Wouldn't the primary uses of this feature be from phones? I see very little use case for iMac.

While it might be possible someone would try something other than an Android or iPhone, I don't think those should be a show stopper.

We had a number of libraries and librarians try it out, and their low end Android devices just weren't up to the task. It was unusable for them. Even on high-end devices, it could take a bit of work to get the scanning working. Feel free to try out the code, but I think you'll find that people complain that it doesn't work well enough. Scandit worked very well, but I don't have code for that at hand. I don't know if the library who was using them ended up continuing with that integration. I think they ended up opting for a dedicated self-checkout machine. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 --- Comment #29 from Christopher Brannon <cbrannon@cdalibrary.org> --- Another thought for this concept down the road, if anyone ever decides to tackle it again - most barcodes print the number below the code. I know that some devices can pull text from an image. Would this be another approach at getting the barcode? Could it be a fallback method? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.

https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23641 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |https://bugs.koha-community | |.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi | |?id=1937 --- Comment #30 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- This reads a bit like a duplicate of the older bug 1937 - as this mentions checking out explicitly I have made it a see also for now. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.