From darrellulm@smfpl.org Thu Feb  4 16:58:33 2010
From: Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: [Koha-devel]  Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:50:31 +0000
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Hello,

Working on putting sound events into Koha 3.2 but it is a bit of a pickle.=20

While I have it working using <embed (embed is the problem, works to a point,
but please read below) ... <embed is not the solution for playing the sound

My question is *what is?*. Currently the two best candidates are playing with=
 a
Java Applet (works very well and loads concurrently so no delay) or Flash, wh=
ich
I have not tested.=20

Basically to get decent sound, we are going to need a plug-in, because web
browsers just don't cut it for playing sound in a fast environment.

<!-- TMPL_IF NAME=3D"soundon" -->
<script type=3D"text/javascript" language=3D"javascript">
if ( get_cookie( "kohastaffsound" ) =3D=3D "yes" )
	{
	document.write('Sounding...');
	document.write('<embed src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/prog/sound/beep.wav" hidden
autostart=3D"true" loop=3D"false" />');
	}
</script>
<!-- /TMPL_IF -->

in Circulation.tmpl

along with a cookie (kohastaffsound) controlled audio on and off (note the
syspref "soundon" also) which is set by a toggle button in header.inc (may not
be the best place)

<script type=3D"text/javascript" language=3D"javascript">
if ( get_cookie( "kohastaffsound" ) =3D=3D "yes" )
	{
	document.write('<img src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/famfamfam/silk/sound.png"
onClick=3D\'delete_cookie ( "kohastaffsound" ); window.location.reload();\' >=
');
	}
else
	{
	document.write('<img
src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/famfamfam/silk/sound_mute.png"
onClick=3D\'set_cookie( "kohastaffsound", "yes", 2020, 01, 01 );
window.location.reload();\' >');
	}
</script>

That is about it, which is fine, except the silly <EMBED is weird and flashes
the screen as well as slows everything down. I think if I aim for a very small
audio file this could be improved, however, there is a delay with the <embed.

With <Embed we have

* Firefox 3.6 there is a delay and an entire screen refresh, but works the be=
st.

* Chrome 4 there is a delay, then the sound plays late, and it even messes up
the formatting

*  IE8 - worked great- loads quick - , but not so with Firefox which is a must

* Opera - Worked the best, very quick load on Circ, but other things did not,
unrelated the sound changes

It seems one way to get around this is to NOT use Embed, and instead use Java
with a class (open source of course) to handle playing a sound on demand.=20

Has anyone else thought about this or experimented. The issue is mainly with =
the
browsers and the lack of support for sound. Using straight javascript to play
the sound works worse than embed across the browsers, which is probably why
Jquery doesn't have a good sound plug-in.=20

I think the reason sound is important, is so at the *end* of a transaction
(check-in / out) there is a beep, to speed up these tasks. Also, when there is
an exception on a book (missing barcode) there should be an audible warning.
These are often missed, because Koha does not have sound cues, and other ILS
systems do.=20

What do you all think?

Darrell Ulm





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From kyle.m.hall@gmail.com Thu Feb  4 17:11:26 2010
From: Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:11:04 -0500
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Have you thought about using the HTML 5 <audio> tag?

http://html5doctor.com/native-audio-in-the-browser/

Kyle

http://www.kylehall.info
Information Technology
Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )




On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Working on putting sound events into Koha 3.2 but it is a bit of a pickle.
>
> While I have it working using <embed (embed is the problem, works to a poin=
t,
> but please read below) ... <embed is not the solution for playing the sound
>
> My question is *what is?*. Currently the two best candidates are playing wi=
th a
> Java Applet (works very well and loads concurrently so no delay) or Flash, =
which
> I have not tested.
>
> Basically to get decent sound, we are going to need a plug-in, because web
> browsers just don't cut it for playing sound in a fast environment.
>
> <!-- TMPL_IF NAME=3D"soundon" -->
> <script type=3D"text/javascript" language=3D"javascript">
> if ( get_cookie( "kohastaffsound" ) =3D=3D "yes" )
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0{
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document.write('Sounding...');
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document.write('<embed src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/pro=
g/sound/beep.wav" hidden
> autostart=3D"true" loop=3D"false" />');
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0}
> </script>
> <!-- /TMPL_IF -->
>
> in Circulation.tmpl
>
> along with a cookie (kohastaffsound) controlled audio on and off (note the
> syspref "soundon" also) which is set by a toggle button in header.inc (may =
not
> be the best place)
>
> <script type=3D"text/javascript" language=3D"javascript">
> if ( get_cookie( "kohastaffsound" ) =3D=3D "yes" )
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0{
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document.write('<img src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/prog/=
img/famfamfam/silk/sound.png"
> onClick=3D\'delete_cookie ( "kohastaffsound" ); window.location.reload();\'=
 >');
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0}
> else
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0{
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document.write('<img
> src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/famfamfam/silk/sound_mute.png"
> onClick=3D\'set_cookie( "kohastaffsound", "yes", 2020, 01, 01 );
> window.location.reload();\' >');
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0}
> </script>
>
> That is about it, which is fine, except the silly <EMBED is weird and flash=
es
> the screen as well as slows everything down. I think if I aim for a very sm=
all
> audio file this could be improved, however, there is a delay with the <embe=
d.
>
> With <Embed we have
>
> * Firefox 3.6 there is a delay and an entire screen refresh, but works the =
best.
>
> * Chrome 4 there is a delay, then the sound plays late, and it even messes =
up
> the formatting
>
> * =C2=A0IE8 - worked great- loads quick - , but not so with Firefox which i=
s a must
>
> * Opera - Worked the best, very quick load on Circ, but other things did no=
t,
> unrelated the sound changes
>
> It seems one way to get around this is to NOT use Embed, and instead use Ja=
va
> with a class (open source of course) to handle playing a sound on demand.
>
> Has anyone else thought about this or experimented. The issue is mainly wit=
h the
> browsers and the lack of support for sound. Using straight javascript to pl=
ay
> the sound works worse than embed across the browsers, which is probably why
> Jquery doesn't have a good sound plug-in.
>
> I think the reason sound is important, is so at the *end* of a transaction
> (check-in / out) there is a beep, to speed up these tasks. Also, when there=
 is
> an exception on a book (missing barcode) there should be an audible warning.
> These are often missed, because Koha does not have sound cues, and other ILS
> systems do.
>
> What do you all think?
>
> Darrell Ulm
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Koha-devel mailing list
> Koha-devel@nongnu.org
> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
>


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From kyle.m.hall@gmail.com Thu Feb  4 17:12:58 2010
From: Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:12:26 -0500
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Even better:

http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/

Kyle

http://www.kylehall.info
Information Technology
Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )




On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you thought about using the HTML 5 <audio> tag?
>
> http://html5doctor.com/native-audio-in-the-browser/
>
> Kyle
>
> http://www.kylehall.info
> Information Technology
> Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Working on putting sound events into Koha 3.2 but it is a bit of a pickle.
>>
>> While I have it working using <embed (embed is the problem, works to a poi=
nt,
>> but please read below) ... <embed is not the solution for playing the sound
>>
>> My question is *what is?*. Currently the two best candidates are playing w=
ith a
>> Java Applet (works very well and loads concurrently so no delay) or Flash,=
 which
>> I have not tested.
>>
>> Basically to get decent sound, we are going to need a plug-in, because web
>> browsers just don't cut it for playing sound in a fast environment.
>>
>> <!-- TMPL_IF NAME=3D"soundon" -->
>> <script type=3D"text/javascript" language=3D"javascript">
>> if ( get_cookie( "kohastaffsound" ) =3D=3D "yes" )
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0{
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document.write('Sounding...');
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document.write('<embed src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/pr=
og/sound/beep.wav" hidden
>> autostart=3D"true" loop=3D"false" />');
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0}
>> </script>
>> <!-- /TMPL_IF -->
>>
>> in Circulation.tmpl
>>
>> along with a cookie (kohastaffsound) controlled audio on and off (note the
>> syspref "soundon" also) which is set by a toggle button in header.inc (may=
 not
>> be the best place)
>>
>> <script type=3D"text/javascript" language=3D"javascript">
>> if ( get_cookie( "kohastaffsound" ) =3D=3D "yes" )
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0{
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document.write('<img src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/prog=
/img/famfamfam/silk/sound.png"
>> onClick=3D\'delete_cookie ( "kohastaffsound" ); window.location.reload();\=
' >');
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0}
>> else
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0{
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document.write('<img
>> src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/prog/img/famfamfam/silk/sound_mute.png"
>> onClick=3D\'set_cookie( "kohastaffsound", "yes", 2020, 01, 01 );
>> window.location.reload();\' >');
>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0}
>> </script>
>>
>> That is about it, which is fine, except the silly <EMBED is weird and flas=
hes
>> the screen as well as slows everything down. I think if I aim for a very s=
mall
>> audio file this could be improved, however, there is a delay with the <emb=
ed.
>>
>> With <Embed we have
>>
>> * Firefox 3.6 there is a delay and an entire screen refresh, but works the=
 best.
>>
>> * Chrome 4 there is a delay, then the sound plays late, and it even messes=
 up
>> the formatting
>>
>> * =C2=A0IE8 - worked great- loads quick - , but not so with Firefox which =
is a must
>>
>> * Opera - Worked the best, very quick load on Circ, but other things did n=
ot,
>> unrelated the sound changes
>>
>> It seems one way to get around this is to NOT use Embed, and instead use J=
ava
>> with a class (open source of course) to handle playing a sound on demand.
>>
>> Has anyone else thought about this or experimented. The issue is mainly wi=
th the
>> browsers and the lack of support for sound. Using straight javascript to p=
lay
>> the sound works worse than embed across the browsers, which is probably why
>> Jquery doesn't have a good sound plug-in.
>>
>> I think the reason sound is important, is so at the *end* of a transaction
>> (check-in / out) there is a beep, to speed up these tasks. Also, when ther=
e is
>> an exception on a book (missing barcode) there should be an audible warnin=
g.
>> These are often missed, because Koha does not have sound cues, and other I=
LS
>> systems do.
>>
>> What do you all think?
>>
>> Darrell Ulm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Koha-devel mailing list
>> Koha-devel@nongnu.org
>> http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
>>
>


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From oleonard@myacpl.org Thu Feb  4 17:16:26 2010
From: Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:16:10 -0500
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On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com> wrote:
> Even better:
>
> http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/

jplayer is nice--works really well for what it does. But it requires
Flash, and I don't know that we want to push a proprietary plugin on
our users.

  -- Owen

-- 
Web Developer
Athens County Public Libraries
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From darrellulm@smfpl.org Thu Feb  4 17:36:22 2010
From: Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: [Koha-devel]  Re: Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:35:38 +0000
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Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@...> writes:

> 
> Have you thought about using the HTML 5 <audio> tag?
> 
> http://html5doctor.com/native-audio-in-the-browser/
> 

Kyle,

Yes, the HTML5 did the trick for Mozilla (using 3.6). 
It is fast and there is
*no* delay and no page refresh. It just works. 

OK, so the *other* browsers don't yet implement it, 
but they should if they want
to stay compliant. Koha primarily supports Firefox 
so this should not be an issue. 

They can play catch up. I just did the following:

<!-- TMPL_IF NAME="soundon" -->
<script type="text/javascript" language="javascript">
if ( get_cookie( "kohastaffsound" ) == "yes" )
	{
	document.write('<audio src="/intranet-tmpl/prog/sound/beep.wav" autoplay
autobuffer></audio>');
	}
</script>
<!-- /TMPL_IF -->

Sound on is the syspref. 

The HTML 5 autoplay and especially the autobuffer appear to make it work very
nicely. 

Well, I have a bunch of open source sounds (Artistic Licence 2.0) so I can
finish this up and have Galen "soundly" reject it!  (Just a joke Galen)   :)

-Darrell Ulm








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From kyle.m.hall@gmail.com Thu Feb  4 17:43:01 2010
From: Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:40:24 -0500
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Excellent. I hope your addition makes it in soon. Some of our
libraries requested the same feature, but this was years ago now, and
I had to do it using java applets. It didn't play well with thin
clients so I ended up disabling it.

Darrell++


Kyle
http://www.kylehall.info
Information Technology
Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )




On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org> wrote:
> Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@...> writes:
>
>>
>> Have you thought about using the HTML 5 <audio> tag?
>>
>> http://html5doctor.com/native-audio-in-the-browser/
>>
>
> Kyle,
>
> Yes, the HTML5 did the trick for Mozilla (using 3.6).
> It is fast and there is
> *no* delay and no page refresh. It just works.
>
> OK, so the *other* browsers don't yet implement it,
> but they should if they want
> to stay compliant. Koha primarily supports Firefox
> so this should not be an issue.
>
> They can play catch up. I just did the following:
>
> <!-- TMPL_IF NAME=3D"soundon" -->
> <script type=3D"text/javascript" language=3D"javascript">
> if ( get_cookie( "kohastaffsound" ) =3D=3D "yes" )
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0{
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0document.write('<audio src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/pro=
g/sound/beep.wav" autoplay
> autobuffer></audio>');
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0}
> </script>
> <!-- /TMPL_IF -->
>
> Sound on is the syspref.
>
> The HTML 5 autoplay and especially the autobuffer appear to make it work ve=
ry
> nicely.
>
> Well, I have a bunch of open source sounds (Artistic Licence 2.0) so I can
> finish this up and have Galen "soundly" reject it! =C2=A0(Just a joke Galen=
) =C2=A0 :)
>
> -Darrell Ulm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Koha-devel@nongnu.org
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From darrellulm@smfpl.org Thu Feb  4 19:18:46 2010
From: Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: [Koha-devel]  Re: Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:17:57 +0000
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Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@...> writes:
> Excellent. I hope your addition makes it in soon. Some of our
> libraries requested the same feature, but this was years ago now, and
> I had to do it using java applets. It didn't play well with thin
> clients so I ended up disabling it.
>=20

Yes, I assumed others wanted some sounds because it is just so standard for I=
LS
systems to have some sort of audio warning for staff. The thin client sound
could be tricky for many reasons. We are also running LTSP for all the catalog
machines (and it saves much time) and I just switched our LTSP to a virtual
machine for a little bit of backup security without having to keep 2 LTSP
servers updated.

Back to sound:
The HTML 5 <audio> works really well with Firefox 3.5/3.6 which I assume peop=
le
are running now :)

Darrell Ulm



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From listy-in@zatorski.net Thu Feb  4 19:22:59 2010
From: Wojciech Zatorski <listy-in@zatorski.net>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:21:48 +0100
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W dniu 2010-02-04 16:50, Darrell Ulm pisze:
> Hello,
>
> Working on putting sound events into Koha 3.2 but it is a bit of a pickle.
>
> While I have it working using<embed (embed is the problem, works to a point,
> but please read below) ...<embed is not the solution for playing the sound
>
> My question is *what is?*. Currently the two best candidates are playing wi=
th a
> Java Applet (works very well and loads concurrently so no delay) or Flash, =
which
> I have not tested.
>
> Basically to get decent sound, we are going to need a plug-in, because web
> browsers just don't cut it for playing sound in a fast environment.
>   =20
I  think this is not good idea.. librarians doesn't like sounds;)
we are using sound only for login page and member page (outdated books)=20
by HTML5:

<audio  src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/default/pl/audio/login.ogg  <view-source:https:=
//10.0.1.1:8014/intranet-tmpl/default/pl/audio/login.ogg>"autoplay></audio>


<audio  src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/default/pl/audio/overdue.ogg  <view-source:http=
s://10.0.1.1:8014/intranet-tmpl/default/pl/audio/overdue.ogg>"id=3D"audioerro=
r1"></audio>

bye

--=20
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Computerization Department.
http://bg.univ.szczecin.pl




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From oleonard@myacpl.org Thu Feb  4 19:37:19 2010
From: Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:37:07 -0500
Message-ID: <c0aa2141002041037r2df6e488pbe0fb1712b318e2@mail.gmail.com>
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> I  think this is not good idea.. librarians doesn't like sounds;)
> we are using sound only for login page and member page

In other words, librarians don't like sounds...except when they do.

Anyway, any addition of sound cues will be controlled by a system
preference, so there's no need to worry about Koha being too noisy.

  -- Owen

-- 
Web Developer
Athens County Public Libraries
http://www.myacpl.org

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From darrellulm@smfpl.org Thu Feb  4 19:40:32 2010
From: Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: [Koha-devel]  Re: Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:39:29 +0000
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Wojciech Zatorski <listy-in@...> writes:

>=20
> I=C2=A0 think this is not good idea.. librarians doesn't like sounds;)
> we are using sound only for login page and member page (outdated books)
> by HTML5:<audio src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/default/pl/audio/login.ogg" autoplay>
</audio>
>=20
> <audio src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/default/pl/audio/overdue.ogg" id=3D"audioerror=
1">
</audio>
>=20

Wojciech,=20

Thanks, yes, we talked about this and the HTML5 looks like the way to go. If =
you
include autoplay autobuffer it may work better for you

Like this:

<audio src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/default/pl/audio/overdue.ogg" id=3D"audioerror1"
autoplay autobuffer></audio>

In Firefox 3.5 or after

You are right, they librarians like quiet!=20

Er, I was just thinking a beep or two, I wasn't talking about rocking out with
Zep. http://www.last.fm/music/Led+Zeppelin or anything like that.





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From listy-in@zatorski.net Thu Feb  4 20:04:53 2010
From: Wojciech Zatorski <listy-in@zatorski.net>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:03:49 +0100
Message-ID: <4B6B1A15.7030306@zatorski.net>
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W dniu 2010-02-04 19:39, Darrell Ulm pisze:
>
> Wojciech,
>
> Thanks, yes, we talked about this and the HTML5 looks like the way to go. I=
f you
> include autoplay autobuffer it may work better for you
>
> Like this:
>
> <audio src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/default/pl/audio/overdue.ogg" id=3D"audioerror=
1"
> autoplay autobuffer></audio>
>
> In Firefox 3.5 or after
>
>   =20

ok thx:) but the better way will be using/ /the "offline caching of web=20
applications' resources"
//https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Offline_resources_in_Firefox

> You are right, they librarians like quiet!
>   =20

you don't know how i had problems with this 2 sounds....

> Er, I was just thinking a beep or two, I wasn't talking about rocking out w=
ith
> Zep. http://www.last.fm/music/Led+Zeppelin or anything like that.
>   =20
hehe :)

--=20
The Main Library of Szczecin University.
Computerization Department.
http://bg.univ.szczecin.pl


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From listy-in@zatorski.net Thu Feb  4 20:13:23 2010
From: Wojciech Zatorski <listy-in@zatorski.net>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 20:12:13 +0100
Message-ID: <4B6B1C0D.4060307@zatorski.net>
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W dniu 2010-02-04 19:37, Owen Leonard pisze:
>> I  think this is not good idea.. librarians doesn't like sounds;)
>> we are using sound only for login page and member page
>>      
> In other words, librarians don't like sounds...except when they do.
>    
yep:)

> Anyway, any addition of sound cues will be controlled by a system
> preference, so there's no need to worry about Koha being too noisy.
>    
sound on/off... or
  login page sound on/off, member page sound on/off, etc?:)


-- 
The Main Library of Szczecin University.
Computerization Department.
http://bg.univ.szczecin.pl


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From kyle.m.hall@gmail.com Thu Feb  4 20:21:30 2010
From: Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:21:18 -0500
Message-ID: <aa4e12321002041121o2dc2e3c8ldbf3113be88bdd06@mail.gmail.com>
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There should definitely be a global Sounds On/Off syspref.

If only a few pages have sounds, a syspref for each sound easy enough.

For many sounds, we should probably add an admin panel for controlling them a=
ll.

Kyle

http://www.kylehall.info
Information Technology
Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )




On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Wojciech Zatorski <listy-in@zatorski.net> wro=
te:
> W dniu 2010-02-04 19:37, Owen Leonard pisze:
>>> I =C2=A0think this is not good idea.. librarians doesn't like sounds;)
>>> we are using sound only for login page and member page
>>>
>> In other words, librarians don't like sounds...except when they do.
>>
> yep:)
>
>> Anyway, any addition of sound cues will be controlled by a system
>> preference, so there's no need to worry about Koha being too noisy.
>>
> sound on/off... or
> =C2=A0login page sound on/off, member page sound on/off, etc?:)
>
>
> --
> The Main Library of Szczecin University.
> Computerization Department.
> http://bg.univ.szczecin.pl
>
> _______________________________________________
> Koha-devel mailing list
> Koha-devel@lists.koha.org
> http://lists.koha.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
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From gmcharlt@gmail.com Fri Feb  5 15:07:19 2010
From: Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:47:21 -0500
Message-ID: <66bd34b51002040847k2afa42d8ub333b046e2d829af@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org> wrote:
> OK, so the *other* browsers don't yet implement it,
> but they should if they want
> to stay compliant. Koha primarily supports Firefox
> so this should not be an issue.

For the staff client, correct, but there are Koha users who are stuck
with IE<ancient>, and they shouldn't be completely ignored.  However,
IMO a graceful degradation for IE is acceptable.

> Well, I have a bunch of open source sounds (Artistic Licence 2.0) so I can
> finish this up and have Galen "soundly" reject it! =C2=A0(Just a joke Galen=
) =C2=A0 :)

I've no problem with with the concept, nor with including it in 3.2,
but since this will break XHTML validation for now, please keep it out
of header.inc and do it only for the checkin and checkout pages
directly.  Also, I will be quick to revert it  and save it for 3.4
(and eventual backport to 3.2.1) if it causes any problems.

Regards,

Galen
--=20
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gmcharlt@gmail.com


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From gmcharlt@gmail.com Fri Feb  5 15:07:23 2010
From: Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:28:20 -0500
Message-ID: <66bd34b51002040828n382abc07jc7954646a9020e1e@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you thought about using the HTML 5 <audio> tag?
>
> http://html5doctor.com/native-audio-in-the-browser/
>

I think that's a possibility, but it begs a question - we're going to
have to decide to what HTML or XHTML version to use in general for the
future, i.e.,

* stick with XHTML1
* XHTML2
* HTML5
* X/HTML5

Regards,

Galen
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From kyle.m.hall@gmail.com Fri Feb  5 15:25:16 2010
From: Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:22:00 -0500
Message-ID: <aa4e12321002050622s7d13c586t854a5aa487f79fd2@mail.gmail.com>
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Jplayer ( http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/ ) appears to be a
nice way to do it. It uses HTML 5, but degrades to flash if a browser
does not support it.

Kyle

http://www.kylehall.info
Information Technology
Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )




On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org> wrote:
>> OK, so the *other* browsers don't yet implement it,
>> but they should if they want
>> to stay compliant. Koha primarily supports Firefox
>> so this should not be an issue.
>
> For the staff client, correct, but there are Koha users who are stuck
> with IE<ancient>, and they shouldn't be completely ignored. =C2=A0However,
> IMO a graceful degradation for IE is acceptable.
>
>> Well, I have a bunch of open source sounds (Artistic Licence 2.0) so I can
>> finish this up and have Galen "soundly" reject it! =C2=A0(Just a joke Gale=
n) =C2=A0 :)
>
> I've no problem with with the concept, nor with including it in 3.2,
> but since this will break XHTML validation for now, please keep it out
> of header.inc and do it only for the checkin and checkout pages
> directly. =C2=A0Also, I will be quick to revert it =C2=A0and save it for 3.4
> (and eventual backport to 3.2.1) if it causes any problems.
>
> Regards,
>
> Galen
> --
> Galen Charlton
> gmcharlt@gmail.com
>
>
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From dschust1@tx.rr.com Fri Feb  5 15:33:03 2010
From: David Schuster <dschust1@tx.rr.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:32:53 -0800
Message-ID: <27468596.post@talk.nabble.com>
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All I can say is my LIBRARIANS LOVE sounds when there is a PROBLEM!!!  In a
school library there is sooo much going on that they need every que possible
when there is an error to get their attention.

We changed the error color and they loved that, but they keep asking about
mainly at checkin - for a sound for holds popping up, transfers etc...

David Schuster

Wojciech Zatorski wrote:
>=20
> W dniu 2010-02-04 19:39, Darrell Ulm pisze:
>>
>> Wojciech,
>>
>> Thanks, yes, we talked about this and the HTML5 looks like the way to go.
>> If you
>> include autoplay autobuffer it may work better for you
>>
>> Like this:
>>
>> <audio src=3D"/intranet-tmpl/default/pl/audio/overdue.ogg" id=3D"audioerro=
r1"
>> autoplay autobuffer></audio>
>>
>> In Firefox 3.5 or after
>>
>>   =20
>=20
> ok thx:) but the better way will be using/ /the "offline caching of web=20
> applications' resources"
> //https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Offline_resources_in_Firefox
>=20
>> You are right, they librarians like quiet!
>>   =20
>=20
> you don't know how i had problems with this 2 sounds....
>=20
>> Er, I was just thinking a beep or two, I wasn't talking about rocking out
>> with
>> Zep. http://www.last.fm/music/Led+Zeppelin or anything like that.
>>   =20
> hehe :)
>=20
> --=20
> The Main Library of Szczecin University.
> Computerization Department.
> http://bg.univ.szczecin.pl
>=20
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From dschust1@tx.rr.com Fri Feb  5 15:47:13 2010
From: David Schuster <dschust1@tx.rr.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 06:47:01 -0800
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bug 1080 - so is someone going to create a patch or how does this work?

I'm not sure I'm there yet...  Creating the patch and all...

David Schuster

Kyle Hall wrote:
>=20
> Jplayer ( http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/ ) appears to be a
> nice way to do it. It uses HTML 5, but degrades to flash if a browser
> does not support it.
>=20
> Kyle
>=20
> http://www.kylehall.info
> Information Technology
> Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org>
>> wrote:
>>> OK, so the *other* browsers don't yet implement it,
>>> but they should if they want
>>> to stay compliant. Koha primarily supports Firefox
>>> so this should not be an issue.
>>
>> For the staff client, correct, but there are Koha users who are stuck
>> with IE<ancient>, and they shouldn't be completely ignored. =C2=A0However,
>> IMO a graceful degradation for IE is acceptable.
>>
>>> Well, I have a bunch of open source sounds (Artistic Licence 2.0) so I
>>> can
>>> finish this up and have Galen "soundly" reject it! =C2=A0(Just a joke Gal=
en)
>>> =C2=A0 :)
>>
>> I've no problem with with the concept, nor with including it in 3.2,
>> but since this will break XHTML validation for now, please keep it out
>> of header.inc and do it only for the checkin and checkout pages
>> directly. =C2=A0Also, I will be quick to revert it =C2=A0and save it for 3=
.4
>> (and eventual backport to 3.2.1) if it causes any problems.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Galen
>> --
>> Galen Charlton
>> gmcharlt@gmail.com
>>
>>
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From gmcharlt@gmail.com Fri Feb  5 15:50:01 2010
From: Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 09:49:49 -0500
Message-ID: <66bd34b51002050649n4aa4d99aj6e5835a044deaa27@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:47 AM, David Schuster <dschust1@tx.rr.com> wrote:
>
> bug 1080 - so is someone going to create a patch or how does this work?
>
> I'm not sure I'm there yet...  Creating the patch and all...

Darrell is working on a patch which he will submit soon.  Assuming
that it doesn't have any unexpected side effects, I will accept it for
3.2.

Regards,

Galen
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From darrellulm@smfpl.org Fri Feb  5 17:37:56 2010
From: Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: [Koha-devel]  Re: Koha Sound Events
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:34:16 +0000
Message-ID: <loom.20100205T172837-648@post.gmane.org>
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Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@...> writes:
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 9:47 AM, David Schuster <dschust1 <at> tx.rr.com> wr=
ote:
> >
> > bug 1080 - so is someone going to create a patch or how does this work?
> >
> > I'm not sure I'm there yet... =C2=A0Creating the patch and all...
>=20
> Darrell is working on a patch which he will submit soon.  Assuming
> that it doesn't have any unexpected side effects, I will accept it for
> 3.2.
> Regards,
> Galen

People,=20

Also helping on a grant to expand PCs for the patrons, so today and Monday ar=
e a
little tied up. I am still plugging away.=20

Question for Galen:=20
I didn't look yet, but does Koha already have any nice Javascript functions to
set, delete, test cookies or shall I find and tack on an open source set. Does
Jquery have this ability? Also, Kyle mentioned the Jplayer
http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/ which looks interesting because it d=
oes
try to play w/ HTML5 and then degrades to Flash (and hopefully does nothing -=
 no
popup request if flash is not there). Sounds interesting, but most libraries =
do
you Firefox I assume for the staff side? If this is the case and they want to
enable the sound sys-pref, they could just install Firefox 3.5/3.6 if they wa=
nt
sound. I am trying to err on simplicity for this.

So Does Jquery have some javascript cookie setting functions? Are these
somewhere in Koha already for javascript cookie settings? -THANKS!

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From darrellulm@smfpl.org Fri Feb  5 17:42:10 2010
From: Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: [Koha-devel]  Re: Koha Sound Events
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:36:14 +0000
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David Schuster <dschust1@...> writes:

>=20
>=20
> All I can say is my LIBRARIANS LOVE sounds when there is a PROBLEM!!!  In a
> school library there is sooo much going on that they need every que possible
> when there is an error to get their attention.
>=20
> We changed the error color and they loved that, but they keep asking about
> mainly at checkin - for a sound for holds popping up, transfers etc...
>=20
> David Schuster

David,=20

I'm in total agreement, anything to remove fatigue and eliminate mistakes sou=
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From gmcharlt@gmail.com Fri Feb  5 18:36:00 2010
From: Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:08:48 -0500
Message-ID: <66bd34b51002050908kaf16249hdbe5e1e74db24090@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org> wrote:
> I didn't look yet, but does Koha already have any nice Javascript functions=
 to
> set, delete, test cookies or shall I find and tack on an open source set. D=
oes
> Jquery have this ability?

There is http://plugins.jquery.com/project/cookie, for example

> Also, Kyle mentioned the Jplayer
> http://www.happyworm.com/jquery/jplayer/ which looks interesting because it=
 does
> try to play w/ HTML5 and then degrades to Flash (and hopefully does nothing=
 - no
> popup request if flash is not there). Sounds interesting, but most librarie=
s do
> you Firefox I assume for the staff side? If this is the case and they want =
to
> enable the sound sys-pref, they could just install Firefox 3.5/3.6 if they =
want
> sound. I am trying to err on simplicity for this.

Let's go with the audio tag for the first pass.

Regards,

Galen
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From darrellulm@smfpl.org Thu Feb 18 17:10:57 2010
From: Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: [Koha-devel]  Re: Koha Sound Events
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:05:30 +0000
Message-ID: <loom.20100218T170333-132@post.gmane.org>
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Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@...> writes:

>=20
> Hello,
>=20
> Working on putting sound events into Koha 3.2 but it is a bit of a pickle. =

>=20

OK, I sent a patch for this, hopefully it was intact, but I am setup to enhan=
ce
if more is needed. We are running the code on our local 3.0 system and Koha
sounds like an Atari 2600 now in circulation. =20

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From oleonard@myacpl.org Fri Feb 19 21:52:58 2010
From: Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:52:37 -0500
Message-ID: <c0aa2141002191252g514b66adu6217be54fea48e94@mail.gmail.com>
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> OK, I sent a patch for this, hopefully it was intact, but I am setup to enh=
ance
> if more is needed.

It seems to be working great--very seamless. Did you create the sounds
or did you find them somewhere?

  -- Owen


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From lrea@nekls.org Sun Feb 21 15:45:25 2010
From: Liz Rea <lrea@nekls.org>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Koha Sound Events
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 10:47:46 -0600
Message-ID: <9233ea731002190847h76212b47l46635c6a94469a95@mail.gmail.com>
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I like this, but for a couple of items:

The beeping on initial load when you click to the checkout/checkin
page is a little excessive.
The sound itself sounds... how to say... crunchy? Maybe it was my speakers.

An option for "error beeps only" would rock.

Great work though, you'll make people so very happy with this patch.

Liz Rea
NEKLS

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@smfpl.org> wrote:
> Darrell Ulm <darrellulm@...> writes:
>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Working on putting sound events into Koha 3.2 but it is a bit of a pickle.
>>
>
> OK, I sent a patch for this, hopefully it was intact, but I am setup to enh=
ance
> if more is needed. We are running the code on our local 3.0 system and Koha
> sounds like an Atari 2600 now in circulation.
>
> -Darrell Ulm
>
>
>
>
>
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From paul.poulain@biblibre.com Mon Feb 22 09:20:22 2010
From: Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: [Koha-devel] NONGNU.ORG mailing list (was: Re: Koha Sound Events)
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:16:43 +0100
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Le 19/02/2010 21:52, Owen Leonard a =C3=A9crit :
>> OK, I sent a patch for this, hopefully it was intact, but I am setup to en=
hance
>> if more is needed.
>>    =20
> It seems to be working great--very seamless. Did you create the sounds
> or did you find them somewhere?
>  =20
Seems some of you are still using koha-devel@nongnu.org, please use
koha-devel@lists.koha.org instead, nongnu.org is really deprecated :(

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