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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Elasticsearch: Minor fix ? (Tomas Cohen Arazi)
2. problem with Search::Elasticsearch-v7 and ES6 (Mason James)
3. Re: Gitlab policy changes (Jonathan Druart)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 17:34:29 -0300
From: Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com>
To: Mason James <mtj@kohaaloha.com>
Cc: Marcel de Rooy <M.de.Rooy@rijksmuseum.nl>, Koha-devel
    <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org>
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Elasticsearch: Minor fix ?
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9.99~really6.81?

El lun, 27 jun 2022 a las 15:41, Mason James (<mtj@kohaaloha.com>) escribió:

> hiya
> i've pushed a pkg to the dev and 22.05 suites, on koha-staging - for
> testing
>
> we do seem to have a potential problem for deb11(>=) and ES6 - as deb11
> has libsearch-elasticsearch-perl-7.30-1, which seems to not be backwards
> compatible with previous ES versions
>
> our jenkins deb11/es6 build is passing... but we might just be lucky - or
> our tests are not covering the broken stuff? :)
>
>
> root@deb10:~# apt policy libsearch-elasticsearch-perl
> libsearch-elasticsearch-perl:
> Installed: 6.81-1-koha1
> Candidate: 6.81-1-koha1
> Version table:
> *** 6.81-1-koha1 500
> 500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha-staging unstable/main
> amd64 Packages
> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
> 6.00-1 500
> 500 http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
>
>
> On 27/06/22 6:31 pm, Marcel de Rooy wrote:
> > Don’t have it at hand anymore.
> > But it is a required module version thing.
> > 600 versus 680
> > Does it need packaging for D 10 ?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mason James <mtj@kohaaloha.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 3:44 AM
> > To: Marcel de Rooy <M.de.Rooy@rijksmuseum.nl>; Koha-devel <
> koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Elasticsearch: Minor fix ?
> >
> > hi Marcel
> > can you paste the installation error
> >
> > i tried to replicate, but koha installed ok for me
> >
> > On 24/06/22 7:53 pm, Marcel de Rooy wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > Suddenly my D10 dev box does not install anymore.
> > > Reason: We now require Search::Elasticsearch to be 6.80. And under
> D10 I have 6.00.
> > >
> > > This is called a minor fix on bug 25669.
> > > Which is currently not my perspective.
> > > Not talking about further implications yet..
> > >
> > > Can we fix this fix ?
> > >
> > > Marcel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Koha-devel mailing list
> > > Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
> > >
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.koha-community.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fkoha-devel&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0XbByDOvk053bjsL1LwFkko6eEG9o31CFkiWCG3lNPA%3D&reserved=0
> > > website :
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> > > git :
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.koha-community.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=x76o3%2FoHBCHsx0hAIQHYK5AE545MAEX1vU96UFeYShg%3D&reserved=0
> > > bugs :
> https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.koha-community.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=P8GzQjdwvoLZsEbe70FlcnOnPbTGZZ5%2FM7A43lOXvYk%3D&reserved=0
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> >
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 15:00:36 +1200
From: Mason James <mtj@kohaaloha.com>
To: Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com>
Cc: Marcel de Rooy <M.de.Rooy@rijksmuseum.nl>, Koha-devel
    <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org>
Subject: [Koha-devel] problem with Search::Elasticsearch-v7 and ES6
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yes, something like that :)

the best way forward could be for us to package our own version of Search::Elasticsearch v7 (either 7.30 or 7.715), with the following 2 modules included...

https://metacpan.org/release/EZIMUEL/Search-Elasticsearch-Client-6_0-7.30
https://metacpan.org/release/EZIMUEL/Search-Elasticsearch-Client-6_0-Async-7.30

this method is described as working below, and should allow koha to works with both ES6 and ES7 servers...

Compatibility needs hacking to work (Client 7.3 ==> Server 6.8) #198
https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch-perl/issues/198

we will also need to explicitly set "client => '6_0::Direct'" when using ES6 (as the code defaults to 7_0::Direct)

probably by adding the following to koha-conf.xml...

    <elasticsearch>
         <client>6_0::Direct</client>
    </elasticsearch>

On 28/06/22 8:34 am, Tomas Cohen Arazi wrote:
> 9.99~really6.81?
>
> El lun, 27 jun 2022 a las 15:41, Mason James (<mtj@kohaaloha.com>) escribió:
>
> hiya
> i've pushed a pkg to the dev and 22.05 suites, on koha-staging - for testing
>
> we do seem to have a potential problem for deb11(>=) and ES6 - as deb11 has libsearch-elasticsearch-perl-7.30-1, which seems to not be backwards compatible with previous ES versions
>
> our jenkins deb11/es6 build is passing... but we might just be lucky - or our tests are not covering the broken stuff? :)
>
>
> root@deb10:~# apt policy libsearch-elasticsearch-perl
> libsearch-elasticsearch-perl:
>    Installed: 6.81-1-koha1
>    Candidate: 6.81-1-koha1
>    Version table:
>   *** 6.81-1-koha1 500
>          500 http://debian.koha-community.org/koha-staging unstable/main amd64 Packages
>          100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>       6.00-1 500
>          500 http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
>
>
> On 27/06/22 6:31 pm, Marcel de Rooy wrote:
> > Don’t have it at hand anymore.
> > But it is a required module version thing.
> > 600 versus 680
> > Does it need packaging for D 10 ?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mason James <mtj@kohaaloha.com>
> > Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 3:44 AM
> > To: Marcel de Rooy <M.de.Rooy@rijksmuseum.nl>; Koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Elasticsearch: Minor fix ?
> >
> > hi Marcel
> > can you paste the installation error
> >
> > i tried to replicate, but koha installed ok for me
> >
> > On 24/06/22 7:53 pm, Marcel de Rooy wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > Suddenly my D10 dev box does not install anymore.
> > > Reason: We now require Search::Elasticsearch to be 6.80. And under D10 I have 6.00.
> > >
> > > This is called a minor fix on bug 25669.
> > > Which is currently not my perspective.
> > > Not talking about further implications yet..
> > >
> > > Can we fix this fix ?
> > >
> > > Marcel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Koha-devel mailing list
> > > Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
> > > https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.koha-community.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fkoha-devel&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0XbByDOvk053bjsL1LwFkko6eEG9o31CFkiWCG3lNPA%3D&reserved=0 <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flists.koha-community.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fkoha-devel&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=0XbByDOvk053bjsL1LwFkko6eEG9o31CFkiWCG3lNPA%3D&reserved=0>
> > > website : https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.koha-community.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2WXb6%2BHycMlb0hCt0G%2Fc%2FSkCcTWHDIz7w97PJaFHOCo%3D&reserved=0 <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.koha-community.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=2WXb6%2BHycMlb0hCt0G%2Fc%2FSkCcTWHDIz7w97PJaFHOCo%3D&reserved=0>
> > > git : https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.koha-community.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=x76o3%2FoHBCHsx0hAIQHYK5AE545MAEX1vU96UFeYShg%3D&reserved=0 <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgit.koha-community.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=x76o3%2FoHBCHsx0hAIQHYK5AE545MAEX1vU96UFeYShg%3D&reserved=0>
> > > bugs : https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.koha-community.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=P8GzQjdwvoLZsEbe70FlcnOnPbTGZZ5%2FM7A43lOXvYk%3D&reserved=0 <https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbugs.koha-community.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7CM.de.Rooy%40rijksmuseum.nl%7Cf77b14a5090542349f2208da57de7bfb%7C635b05eb66c748e1a94fb4b05a1b058b%7C0%7C0%7C637918910328313480%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=P8GzQjdwvoLZsEbe70FlcnOnPbTGZZ5%2FM7A43lOXvYk%3D&reserved=0>
> >
> >
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2022 10:23:58 +0200
From: Jonathan Druart <jonathan.druart@bugs.koha-community.org>
To: "Victor Grousset/tuxayo" <victor@tuxayo.net>
Cc: koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org>
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes
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Sorry for the late reply, I didn't really know what to say. As I was
involved earlier in the discussion I feel that by not replying, I am
agreeing with your message, Victor. However I do not agree at all.
I do not recognize myself in your words and I do not think "scamming
gitlab" is a point of the discussion.
The matter is to know if we are eligible for a program they support,
and find the best way to apply in agreement with their terms and our
project's view.
We are relying quite a lot on gitlab, and I personally think the open
source product they provide is great. I thank their team for that.

With this answer, I only wanted to take distance with your words.
Cheers,
Jonathan

Le ven. 10 juin 2022 à 22:42, Victor Grousset/tuxayo
<victor@tuxayo.net> a écrit :
>
> On 22-05-26 01:55, dcook@prosentient.com.au wrote:
> > In theory, the organisation should be the Koha Community so it might be OK, since it doesn't sell services.
>
> In practice we would be trying to scam GitLab.com
> If we look at
> https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_22.11
> and count for Release Manager, QA team, RMaints, Packaging Team,
> Translation Manager. We have around 17 people and between 11 and 12 are
> working or subcontracting for private support companies.
> (Assuming they are all for profit because unfortunately, almost no one
> does non profit companies even though that totally works to make a
> living out of one's business.)
>
> We might not have remorse in trying to scam a publicly traded company
> but we should be aware among ourselves that's the plan.
>
>
> On 22-05-26 12:39, Jonathan Druart wrote:
> > There is a checkbox on the form
> > That's the only reason I haven't filled in the form already, it's not
> > clear to me if we are eligible or not.
>
> Reading the checkbox, it looks clear that no matter how we want to
> define maintainers. There are way too much in proportion that are
> seeking to make a profit that we can't in good faith try to negotiate
> that we still fit the criteria.
>
> We can still try and be upfront and present the project and hope that
> they want to support it.
>
> Or try to scam them without remorse because why not. It's not like
> GitLab is very respectable since they are publicly traded and the full
> version of GitLab include proprietary parts.
>
> And self-host the workers if that fails.
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Victor Grousset/tuxayo

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