On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 8:17 AM, Philippe Blouin <philippe.blouin@inlibro.com> wrote:
Now, may I suggest something?  Documentation.  Not user friendly, but at least dev-enlightening.

"You" guys put time in there, as with plack and memcache and whatnot, but if you're on the outside, you have no way of getting a head start beside reading some 1200 bugzilla comments in chronological order to know what's the status, how to get it to work on a git, etc...  (my ref to plack is not accidental).

You can put tens of hours alone on the next bug and then wonder why nobody comes in when you call for testers, or invest a few hours on documenting a quick way for dummasses like me to catch up.

Now, everyone is constrained by time, and I apologize if the comment above is frustrating to read.  I don't want to be rude, and I appreciate all the hours everyone put to improve the product while I don't or can't.  Please see that just as my opinion on why different big devs don't get as many helpers as deserved.

I think this is actually a very cogent observation, and deserves its own thread. I've definitely been in the situation where I've wanted a better view of large developments, but was overwhelmed by the comment threads in bugzilla. I've got some ideas, but I don't want to hijack the discussion of 16.05, zebra and jessie.