I will take that role at version 3.14 and I am trying keep updating lots of things for this. But I really don't care about name of koha released team. Just do what I think it would be good for community. I think one version should have only 3 live dvd max. For example 3.14.01, 06 and 10 maybe. 1 for testing, 2 for using and updating. See you all on 11 september.

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: [QA] QA Team Meeting - Cancelled and new poll (Kyle Hall)
  2. Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x? (Vimal Kumar V.)
  3. Re: Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x? (Mirko)
  4. Re: [Koha] Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x?
      (Mark Tompsett)
  5. Re: [Koha] Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x?
      (Tomas Cohen Arazi)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 06:37:46 -0400
From: Kyle Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com>
To: Mason James <mtj@kohaaloha.com>
Cc: "koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org"
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Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] [QA] QA Team Meeting - Cancelled and new
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Sept 3rd is fine by me!

Kyle

http://www.kylehall.info
ByWater Solutions ( http://bywatersolutions.com )
Meadville Public Library ( http://www.meadvillelibrary.org )
Crawford County Federated Library System ( http://www.ccfls.org )
Mill Run Technology Solutions ( http://millruntech.com )


On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Mason James <mtj@kohaaloha.com> wrote:

>
> On 2013-08-23, at 2:55 AM, Galen Charlton wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Katrin Fischer <
> katrin.fischer.83@web.de> wrote:
> > - Wednesday, 28th, 19 UTC
> > - Tuesday, 3rd September, 19 UTC
> >
> > My preference is for September 3rd.  I might be able to make the 28
> August date, but most likely not.
> >
>
> hi All
>
> i can't make the 28th, so Sept 3rd for me too :)
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:19:35 +0530
From: "Vimal Kumar V." <vimal0212@gmail.com>
To: koha@lists.katipo.co.nz, koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: [Koha-devel] Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x?
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Dear Friends,
I don't know why Release Maintainer of Koha 3.12.x always forgot to give
the exact name of Live DVD manager in release notes!!!
http://koha-community.org/koha-3-12-4-released/

I once again request to Release Manager to read once more roles for 3.12
version.
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.12

I would like to get the reputation as Live DVD Manager.
Like any other members in developers community, I had burned lot of my time
to create Koha Live DVD for 3.12 version.

Regards,
--
Vimal Kumar V.
Technical Assistant
Mahatma Gandhi University Library
Kottayam, Kerala- 686 560
Web: http://www.vimalkumar.info
Blog: http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com http://kohageek.blogspot.in
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 19:03:50 +0200
From: Mirko <5p4m@gmx.de>
To: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Who is Live DVD manager of version 3.12.x?
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1. Stop crossposting to several Koha lists. It is annoying and will
lead to people ignoring you. Choose the list you consider the one
most applicable and send an email to that one list.

2. The release notes, like all release notes, contain the following:

> We regret any omissions. If a contributor has been inadvertently
> missed, please send a patch against these release notes to
> koha-patches@lists.koha-community.org.

Consider doing that instead of shouting at people.

-- Mirko




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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 14:06:49 -0400
From: "Mark Tompsett" <mtompset@hotmail.com>
To: "Vimal Kumar V." <vimal0212@gmail.com>
Cc: koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] [Koha] Who is Live DVD manager of version
    3.12.x?
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Greetings,

Putting aside the arguments for a live DVD, a couple good points have been
made or implied, and probably should be reiterated:
1) A 3.12.0 Live DVD doesn't constitute being part of the current team
(3.12.3).
2) Cross posting to koha and koha-devel is typically a bad idea.
3) The effort to dump a single DVD every 6 or months does not compare to the
effort put in by the release manager nor even the release maintainers.
4) You can't get the title once and expect it forever.

You showed up on IRC once long ago, but don't visit. I have not seen you
posting questions or answers in either the koha or koha-devel mailing lists.
To be honest, VKV, how can you desire to be part of the community when the
community doesn't see you as active?

If the role of Live DVD Manager/Maintainer is to be kept, and there are
hints at dumping it because the required effort is not being put forth, I
would expect (at least):
- Make a Live DVD iso no later than a week after every package release at
latest. It is usually released within a week of the tarballs.
- Be active on the IRC channel to stay aware of bugs and issues that are
popping around. If you were on IRC, you could ask eythian yourself if the
packages were ready.
- Be active on the Koha mailing lists answering questions and even asking
some occasionally.
I'm sure others could chime in requirements. Given the general dislike of a
Live DVD, because of the abuses that can (and most likely will) occur
(running a Live DVD in a production system), you are going to have to work
to earn the respect and title. You haven't been doing that, as far as I can
tell.

I would also like to point out that this title has been given to someone
else for 3.14.
http://wiki.koha-community.org/w/index.php?title=Roles_for_3.14
However, they too have been as poorly active as you. That is probably why
they are in the release notes. Your term ended with the release of 3.12.0.

The next koha meeting is September 11.
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/General_IRC_meeting,_11_September_2013
Start attending the meetings regularly, even though the timezone shift gets
inconvenient at times.

GPML,
Mark Tompsett



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:14:46 -0300
From: Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen@gmail.com>
To: "Vimal Kumar V." <vimal0212@gmail.com>
Cc: koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org>
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] [Koha] Who is Live DVD manager of version
    3.12.x?
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Vimal, and list members

As I said before, the release team members list is the one from
http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.14. I adjust the Release
Manager to acknowledge Jared as 3.12's RM. People on the release
announcement is people with current roles, voted 3rd April on the IRC
meeting.

As of 31 July I have already pushed a patch that acknowledges Vimal as
LiveDVD maintainer during the 3.10-3.12 period [1], it appears in the
"About" section in Koha, and will continue during the whole 3.12 lifecycle
(this should be the patch Jared suggests).

On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Vimal Kumar V. <vimal0212@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Jared,
>
> Why Nguyen Quoc Uy name appeared in release notes of 3.12.3?
> In my knowledge Live DVD of 3.12.3 or 3.12.4 have not released yet.
>

I think the lack of synergy with the dev community is the root for this
problems. Maybe Nguyen and you could be on IRC or arrange an IRC meeting
and we could sort this out easily. As of me, your work is acknowledged by
my patch. And feel comfortable about that.

Regards
To+

[1]
http://git.koha-community.org/gitweb/?p=koha.git;a=blobdiff;f=koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/about.tt;h=4baa58d6eb5063c473f84f29199bbe824b1d58df;hp=db11d906f36715d0486d4682eeaa8a3aa6e7df1d;hb=c0df9a90577cfdee19c9a1d2ca1155846fcb2b07;hpb=17573f120b13cb496d7fac82ed5ed647eaf82888



>
>
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Jared Camins-Esakov <
> jcamins@cpbibliography.com> wrote:
>
> > Vimal, et. al.,
> >
> > As Tomas stated last time, the release notes list the current members of
> > the release team. As your term as livedvd manager ended several months
> ago,
> > you are not a member of the current release team. You will notice that D.
> > Ruth Bavousett and Elliott Davis are not currently listed either, despite
> > having been members of the release team during the 3.12.
> >
> > I would also note that there was a security release on the Koha 3.12.x
> > branch last month. If your argument is not just that you released the
> > livedvd for Koha 3.12.0 (which no one -- other than, apparently, you --
> > questions) but rather that you are the current maintainer of the Koha
> > 3.12.x livedvd, your argument would be much-strengthened by releasing an
> > updated version of the livedvd without the serious security flaw which
> was
> > addressed in 3.12.3.
> >
> > That said, I take no particular stance on this question, but I will point
> > out that Koha is an open source project, and patches are always accepted.
> > If you feel that your name should be listed in the release notes,
> > submitting a patch that adds your name (and provides an explanation in
> the
> > commit message about why this is necessary) would be a good idea.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jared
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Vimal Kumar V. <vimal0212@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Friends,
> >> I don't know why Release Maintainer of Koha 3.12.x always forgot to give
> >> the exact name of Live DVD manager in release notes!!!
> >> http://koha-community.org/koha-3-12-4-released/
> >>
> >> I once again request to Release Manager to read once more roles for 3.12
> >> version.
> >> http://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Roles_for_3.12
> >>
> >> I would like to get the reputation as Live DVD Manager.
> >> Like any other members in developers community, I had burned lot of my
> >> time to create Koha Live DVD for 3.12 version.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> --
> >> Vimal Kumar V.
> >> Technical Assistant
> >> Mahatma Gandhi University Library
> >> Kottayam, Kerala- 686 560
> >> Web: http://www.vimalkumar.info
> >> Blog: http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com http://kohageek.blogspot.in
> >>
> >>
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> >> -Patrick White
> >>
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> >> git : http://git.koha-community.org/
> >> bugs : http://bugs.koha-community.org/
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jared Camins-Esakov
> > Bibliographer, C & P Bibliography Services, LLC
> > (phone) +1 (917) 727-3445
> > (e-mail) jcamins@cpbibliography.com
> > (web) http://www.cpbibliography.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Vimal Kumar V.
> Technical Assistant
> Mahatma Gandhi University Library
> Kottayam, Kerala- 686 560
> Web: http://www.vimalkumar.info
> Blog: http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com http://kohageek.blogspot.in
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