How many of "these" are there to change? Not that the work itself will be massive, but putting a 'they' in the middle of a sentence does not make it easy to translate intuitively, I would think. If it's a consideration (it is for non-English users, at least).
Philippe Blouin,
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philippe.blouin@inLibro.com_______________________________________________On 04/19/2017 01:16 PM, Jonathan Druart wrote:
The next step would be to provide a check to our QA tests to make sure we will not introduce future occurrences.I am pretty sure they will not be caught manually by QAers.
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 at 13:56 Eric Phetteplace <ephetteplace@cca.edu> wrote:
Hi Paul,
English has a singular "they". It doesn't suggest androgyny, either, from the definitions I've seen. For instance, Oxford English Dictionary:
2. In anaphoric reference to a singular noun or pronoun of undetermined gender: he or she.
The first usage example OED provides is from 1375. I don't think replacing "he" with "she" addresses the problem, it's still assuming a default gender. It's not too much tricker to search code for he/him & replace with they/them but that's also just an implementation issue, not a policy one.
It sounds like people are otherwise supportive but I'm not sure what the next step should be.
Best,
Eric PhetteplaceSystems LibrarianCalifornia College of the Arts510.594.36602>/dev/null
_______________________________________________On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 8:42 AM, Paul A <paul.a@navalmarinearchive.com> wrote:
On 2017-04-18 08:25 PM, Eric Phetteplace wrote:
Hi list,[snip]
I opened bug
Before*:*"Kid growing and become a juvenile, he should pay "
After:"Kid growing and become a juvenile, they should pay "
Political correctness has never been my strong point (although I try to understand it), but I'm proficient in grammatical rigour. [1]
"Kid" is a singular noun, "a" is a singular article -- "they" is a plural pronoun. Perhaps replace "they" with "[s]he"? or "Kids growing and becoming juveniles, they should pay"?
From a code maintenance p.o.v., it's easier to find and replace 'he' with '[s]he' if really this becomes a priority for Koha.
Best -- Paul
[1] I am aware of the so-called "singular third person epicene 'they'", but academically object to it -- it often suggests androgyny rather than gender neutrality.
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