some clarifications/thoughts
- the infrastructure that currently runs lists.katipo.co.nz goes away at the end of this month (March) - both the server and IP number
- lists.katipo.co.nz has only one mailing list on it (the original Koha users list)
- the Koha list has 1024 members, archives and attachments sum to about 600MB.
I have no expectation that I'll add any additional lists to lists.k.c.n in the future - from my pov it exists solely to support Koha. So another option could be to move lists.k.c.n into
https://www.mailmanlists.net - that would mean the list address wouldn't change, so it would be largely transparent to the members.
Whether we move the lists.k.c.n domain as-is, or export the member list and archives into a new list, I don't really mind either way - I'm happy to support either approach. However, if the current lists.koha-community.org infrastructure is so crusty that you don't want to create a new list on it, then I suggest that moving lists.k.c.n to mailmanlists.net is a better approach - since we can do that relatively quickly without user interruption, it meets my end-of-month deadline, and it avoids forcing an urgent task (migrating lists.koha-community.org) on Biblibre.
Then, after some period of evaluation, if mailmanlists.net is working well then Biblibre can migrate the current lists.koha-community.org lists+domain into mailmanlists.net over whatever timescale is convenient. Once that's done then the project can decide whether to replace
koha@lists.katipo.co.nz in with a new list in lists.koha-community.org
Paul if that works for you, open a billing arrangement with mailmanlists.net and send me some credentials, and I'll do the exports and DNS changes required.
Cheers
Simon
On Thu, Mar 5, 2026, at 8:01 AM, Chris Cormack via Koha-devel wrote:
Kia ora
I support this idea.
Chris
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On 5 March 2026 1:55:42 am NZDT, Paul Poulain via Koha-devel <koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org> wrote:
Hello everyone,
One topic that is in my todo for months is the migration of
mailing lists (Thanks Simon Blake to motivate me ;) ). BibLibre is
hosting them and the server is old and not uptodate. Instead of
upgrading, I was thinking it would be better to move to a
mailing-list professional.
I've found : https://www.mailmanlists.net
Would you see a reason not to move our mailing lists here ?
(BibLibre will pay the cost, not a big deal here)
I don't see any :
- history can be migrated
- We can keep the DNS lists.koha-community.org
Simon and Rachel would like to stop the koha@katipo.co.nz, so we
could move it as well. What about renaming it koha-users@lists.koha-community.org ? (to highlight the difference
between this one and koha-devel@)
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