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If the people at Katipo are happy, I'd be pleased to give you permission to use any of the code I wrote on www.koha.org for Koha purposes without limitation. I'm not too keen, however, on you redistributing it (as the GPL requires me to allow).

It is Shaun's design and he can do with it as he pleases. But I think it raises and interesting point that is worth of discussion in relation to how we market Koha. What I am thinking about is "what is best for the Koha brand". So with this all in mind - What is the purpose of the Koha England site? Is is a) To be seen as a subsite of the koha.org site for users and developers in England to pool resources that are specific to the use and development of Koha in England and the UK or is it b) A tool to promote your the services of your own Koha company. I think we need to make it clear that Koha is the product of a project and is *not* what appears to be a company or other entity. So following this train of though the Koha template should not be used by individual companies to promote their own services. There are no Koha franchises or official Koha regions given to individual companies to exploit. I was under the impression that Paul and Henri were taking the content of the koha.org site, which is all in English. And translating it into French to make it more accessible for this audience. I welcome any attempt to make the Koha message avaible in different languages and more accessible. If anyone wants to take the content of the site and translate it into any other language, great! lets talk :-) I think the best solution would be to find a way that we can facilitate a multi-lingual koha.org site. Now the current CMS doesnt support this. We use Kea becuase it was quick to deploy the new look and feel. We needed to get the old site down becuase it was just so out of date it was wrong. In regard to http://www.koha-fr.org/, Paul / Henri - if this site is an attempt to mirror the content on www.koha.org then, great! If it is your companies only site then I don't think it should be using the same look and feel as koha.org. It becomes confusing. I think it would be wise for companies who are selling koha services to have their own site, with their own look and feel, but utlising koha logos etc on their site as advertising, rather than all sharing a similar look and feel. But getting back to the Koha England site in particular, if it is a) A general resource for Koha in England which is open for contributions from all UK based Kohaphiles, then would it be better to look at away to incorporate this into the koha.org site? Just thinking that we could also have demand for USA, India etc.. subsites as well for sharing expericences about Koha in those regions. If we get a long thread started on this it might be worth discussing at a meeting. Cheers -- Russel Garlick Operations Manager Katipo Communications Ph: +64 4 934 1285 Fax: +64 4 934 1286 Mob: +64 27 537 1377 Skype: russelgarlick Web http://www.katipo.co.nz

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I think we need to make it clear that Koha is the product of a project and is *not* what appears to be a company or other entity. So following this train of though the Koha template should not be used by individual companies to promote their own services. There are no Koha franchises or official Koha regions given to individual companies to exploit.

I was under the impression that Paul and Henri were taking the content of the koha.org site, which is all in English. And translating it into French to make it more accessible for this audience. I welcome any attempt to make the Koha message avaible in different languages and more accessible. If anyone wants to take the content of the site and translate it into any other language, great! lets talk :-)

I 100% agree with you. "Local sites" should be seen as "language-localized site" and nothing else. I explain what we tried to do with koha-fr.org : * At the very beginning I had a fr.koha.org, with katipo tools, on katipo server. The problem being that, travelling the world for every request was really slow. so I decided to go to koha-fr.org, with a server physically in france. * At 1st, it was a strict copy of koha.org (koha.org lists all companies supporting Koha commercially, i'm listed on koha.org as well as on koha-fr.org in fact ;-) ) * Then, I thought it could be a good place for some news. Thus we added a "what's new" corner. * Then, I got many questions from some (canadian) libraries. I answered all of them, and thought it could be interesting to put them public. What could be the best place ? koha-fr.org, of course. Thus, I added a "features" corner, with each module (acquisition, cataloguing, circulation...) being detailled, with a FAQ for each of them. * Finally, I was asked for some very specific tricks, and added a "Koha hints" corner (that has only a few pages, but I expect it will grow) Now, I think we have a site that could last for some time. Henri-Damien and I can write on it, but also Daniel, from Canada (he wrote only 1 page iirc). Any other french volunteer can request a login to be a writter. -- Paul POULAIN et Henri Damien LAURENT Consultants indépendants en logiciels libres et bibliothéconomie (http://www.koha-fr.org)

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Not really. koha.org is on the dark side of the moon, in network terms from England. Sorry, but Eng-NZ internet links aren't good.

I have talked to Simon and we (Katipo) are going to move koha.org to a server he runs in the states. This should result in much better perfomance to the site. As for us kiwi's who live on the dark side of the moon, we are used to such lag, so I don't think members of the Koha community here in NZ and Australia will notice much difference. It will take us a week or two to get this going, mainly cos we will wait till Chris gets back from wooing everyone at linux.conf.au. Once this is up and running - would you (and other) help generate content for a UK sub section of the Community section of the site? Cheers -- Russel Garlick Operations Manager Katipo Communications Ph: +64 4 934 1285 Fax: +64 4 934 1286 Mob: +64 27 537 1377 Skype: russelgarlick Web http://www.katipo.co.nz

Hiya Lets see what performance is like once the site is on the US server as a first step and then we can take it from there. As for the GB section on koha.org - awesome. I'll setup a a subfolder for you and an index page and give you a login for the CMS and you can go from there. I'll email you the login details off list Cheers Russel -- Russel Garlick Operations Manager Katipo Communications Ph: +64 4 934 1285 Fax: +64 4 934 1286 Mob: +64 27 537 1377 Skype: russelgarlick Web http://www.katipo.co.nz