RFC: Renaming homebranch/holdingbranch in MARC21 Framework(s)
I would like to change the default labels for homebranch & holdingbranch in the MARC21 frameworks as follows: homebranch : Permanent Location (from 'Location (homebranch)' ) holdingbranch: Current Location (from 'Sublocation or Collection (holdingbranch)' ) The current language for holdingbranch implies it is/could be a subset of homebranch, and is confusing for new users of Koha. This change should not impact translations, as the change occurs only in the db-stored labels. An alternative to 'Permanent Location' would be 'Owning Library'. I think it would be better to implement this last-minute change than to commit ourselves to labels that suggest a non-existent relation. Comments ? -- Ryan Higgins LibLime * Open-Source Solutions for Libraries Featuring KohaZOOM ILS 888-564-2457 x704 _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@lists.koha.org http://lists.koha.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
Ryan Higgins a écrit :
I would like to change the default labels for homebranch & holdingbranch in the MARC21 frameworks as follows:
homebranch : Permanent Location (from 'Location (homebranch)' ) holdingbranch: Current Location (from 'Sublocation or Collection (holdingbranch)' )
I agree with it, as it's harmless. More : I could adopt this vocabulary for frenchies as well, as it's really clear. cheers, -- Paul POULAIN http://www.biblibre.com Expert en Logiciels Libres pour l'info-doc Tel : 04 91 31 45 19 _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@lists.koha.org http://lists.koha.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
The labels which I applied in the MARC 21 frameworks were taken from MARC 21 holdings subfields amongst the various holdings fields where I thought they could be taken with the parenthetical clarification for how I understood they would be applied to Koha usage. The discrepancy in my understanding of how the subfield is actually used in Koha derives from the relatively little attention I give to circulation issues and my presumption of correspondence between MARC 21 holdings subfields and French Recommandation 995. I now have a little uncertainty about the usage which I hope to clarify as soon as I can. Recommandation 995 was originally written as an interlibrary loan standard and not intended as a holdings standard which produces some complications of subfield correspondence to a holdings standard. Recommandation 995 may have become used as if it is a simple holdings standard in France but it is not well suited for providing all that is needed for a full representation of holdings which leads to confusion in application. In accordance with what I understand as the appropriate application of Recommandation 995, I suggest the following. I translateed 'Origine du document' as 'Origin of item' for the UNIMARC translation which I edited. For the MARC 21 frameworks, I suggest changing 'Location {homebranch)' to 'Originating branch (long term homebranch location)'. If permanent or owning would be used here, the implication could be that it applies to the institutional main branch or the library system as whole which is how I had understood its function and mapped it in relation to MARC 21 holdings. I translated 'Établissement prêteur ou déposant' as 'Lending or holding organisation' for the UNIMARC translation which I edited. I should perhaps have used 'Lending or deposit organisation' and provided better parenthetical explanation. The word holding in this context is confusing because holding in holdings standards is meant to mean long term holding, not temporary holding as in a branch which receives an item from another branch as the most convenient lending point for a particular borrower. For the MARC 21 frameworks, I suggest changing 'Sublocation or Collection (holdingbranch)' to 'Current lending branch (holdingbranch at the moment)'. The changes I suggested may seem a little verbose but I believe they are necessary for clarification in a MARC 21 context where there is no significant expectation of anything like the Recommandation 995 interlibrary loan subfields to be included in the holdings field as part of the MARC record . The further Koha is from following standard nomenclature for holdings as distinct from interlibrary loans or other aspects of item management, the more confusion and difficulty there will be about implementing standard MARC holdings with holdings information stored in multiple fields. Thomas Dukleth Agogme 109 E 9th Street, 3D New York, NY 10003 USA http://www.agogme.com 212-674-3783 On Fri, July 4, 2008 8:31 pm, Ryan Higgins wrote:
I would like to change the default labels for homebranch & holdingbranch in the MARC21 frameworks as follows:
homebranch : Permanent Location (from 'Location (homebranch)' ) holdingbranch: Current Location (from 'Sublocation or Collection (holdingbranch)' )
The current language for holdingbranch implies it is/could be a subset of homebranch, and is confusing for new users of Koha. This change should not impact translations, as the change occurs only in the db-stored labels.
An alternative to 'Permanent Location' would be 'Owning Library'.
I think it would be better to implement this last-minute change than to commit ourselves to labels that suggest a non-existent relation.
Comments ?
-- Ryan Higgins
LibLime * Open-Source Solutions for Libraries Featuring KohaZOOM ILS 888-564-2457 x704
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In my suggestion, I had forgotten an important part of the nomenclature which I had used to avoid confusion. Wherever a field or subfield was specific to Koha with no equivalent in a recognised MARC 21 field or subfield I used the name Koha as the first word in the field or subfield. This nomenclature is useful especially in the case where Koha uses the word 'holding' in a very different manner from any library holdings standard. I have also reconsidered the wording and the value of the word 'permanent' and do not believe that it would be confusing in the way that 'owning' would. The librarians should not be confused in the way which I have been. I suggest changing 'Location (homebranch)' to 'Koha permanent location, homebranch'. I suggest changing 'Sublocation or Collection (holdingbranch)' to 'Koha current location, holdingbranch at the moment. There are a few terms such as 'holding' which Koha has historically used in a possible ordinary language manner but which are used in a very different manner in library nomenclature and in other conventions. Nicole Engard reported some bugs for problematic language and they were fixed. I had always assumed that the preference in the Koha community had been to keep the confusing language as a Koha convention. I am pleased that we are at least partly aligning our language better with the library community. Thomas Dukleth Agogme 109 E 9th Street, 3D New York, NY 10003 USA http://www.agogme.com 212-674-3783 _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@lists.koha.org http://lists.koha.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
I agree - I have come across this problem in documentation and while training new libraries on using Koha. --- Nicole C. Engard Open Source Evangelist, LibLime (888) Koha ILS (564-2457) ext. 714 nce@liblime.com AIM/Y!/Skype: nengard http://liblime.com http://blogs.liblime.com/open-sesame/ On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Ryan Higgins <ryan.higgins@liblime.com> wrote:
I would like to change the default labels for homebranch & holdingbranch in the MARC21 frameworks as follows:
homebranch : Permanent Location (from 'Location (homebranch)' ) holdingbranch: Current Location (from 'Sublocation or Collection (holdingbranch)' )
The current language for holdingbranch implies it is/could be a subset of homebranch, and is confusing for new users of Koha. This change should not impact translations, as the change occurs only in the db-stored labels.
An alternative to 'Permanent Location' would be 'Owning Library'.
I think it would be better to implement this last-minute change than to commit ourselves to labels that suggest a non-existent relation.
Comments ?
-- Ryan Higgins
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