Hi all, I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for the manual on the Koha site. Thanks Nicole
Hi all,
I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for the manual on the Koha site.
i suggest to use http://swish-e.org/, a very good indexing tool. But we need a server and to set-up it. Bye Zeno Tajoli
We have a server where the website is hosted - so it's just a matter of installing that I guess. On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tajoli <tajoli@cilea.it> wrote:
Hi all,
I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for the manual on the Koha site.
i suggest to use http://swish-e.org/, a very good indexing tool. But we need a server and to set-up it.
Bye Zeno Tajoli
How about Google? Here's an example of what could be done-- http://reedwade.net/misc/kohasearch/ -reed On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a server where the website is hosted - so it's just a matter of installing that I guess.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tajoli <tajoli@cilea.it> wrote:
Hi all,
I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for the manual on the Koha site.
i suggest to use http://swish-e.org/, a very good indexing tool. But we need a server and to set-up it.
Bye Zeno Tajoli
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Reed, It was my understanding that Google wouldn't work for some reason. Also I don't know how you set this up, but it's searching the entire site, and I'm just looking for the manual. I do prefer Google over Bing any day though. Nicole On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
How about Google? Here's an example of what could be done--
http://reedwade.net/misc/kohasearch/
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a server where the website is hosted - so it's just a matter of installing that I guess.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tajoli <tajoli@cilea.it> wrote:
Hi all,
I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for the manual on the Koha site.
i suggest to use http://swish-e.org/, a very good indexing tool. But we need a server and to set-up it.
Bye Zeno Tajoli
_______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
I've updated it to search just under http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual To put one of these on the site we just need to be able to add a div where it needs to appear plus a little javascript bit. -reed On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Reed,
It was my understanding that Google wouldn't work for some reason. Also I don't know how you set this up, but it's searching the entire site, and I'm just looking for the manual. I do prefer Google over Bing any day though.
Nicole
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
How about Google? Here's an example of what could be done--
http://reedwade.net/misc/kohasearch/
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a server where the website is hosted - so it's just a matter of installing that I guess.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tajoli <tajoli@cilea.it> wrote:
Hi all,
I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for the manual on the Koha site.
i suggest to use http://swish-e.org/, a very good indexing tool. But we need a server and to set-up it.
Bye Zeno Tajoli
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That's not difficult :) I'm all for it. I can edit the manual page I just need to the code you're talking about. Nicole On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
I've updated it to search just under http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual
To put one of these on the site we just need to be able to add a div where it needs to appear plus a little javascript bit.
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Reed,
It was my understanding that Google wouldn't work for some reason. Also I don't know how you set this up, but it's searching the entire site, and I'm just looking for the manual. I do prefer Google over Bing any day though.
Nicole
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
How about Google? Here's an example of what could be done--
http://reedwade.net/misc/kohasearch/
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a server where the website is hosted - so it's just a matter of installing that I guess.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tajoli <tajoli@cilea.it> wrote:
Hi all,
I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for the manual on the Koha site.
i suggest to use http://swish-e.org/, a very good indexing tool. But we need a server and to set-up it.
Bye Zeno Tajoli
_______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
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The best option might be to create your own at-- http://www.google.com/cse/ because then you can set the various options you might want and then also change it later. But in the meantime you can use this-- <div id="cse" style="width: 100%;">Loading</div> <script src="http://www.google.com/jsapi" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> google.load('search', '1', {language : 'en'}); google.setOnLoadCallback(function() { var customSearchControl = new google.search.CustomSearchControl('016210760301254710709:eqm7n9rsfxq'); customSearchControl.setResultSetSize(google.search.Search.FILTERED_CSE_RESULTSET); customSearchControl.draw('cse'); }, true); </script> <link rel="stylesheet" href="http://www.google.com/cse/style/look/greensky.css" type="text/css" /> -reed On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
That's not difficult :) I'm all for it. I can edit the manual page I just need to the code you're talking about.
Nicole
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
I've updated it to search just under http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual
To put one of these on the site we just need to be able to add a div where it needs to appear plus a little javascript bit.
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Reed,
It was my understanding that Google wouldn't work for some reason. Also I don't know how you set this up, but it's searching the entire site, and I'm just looking for the manual. I do prefer Google over Bing any day though.
Nicole
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
How about Google? Here's an example of what could be done--
http://reedwade.net/misc/kohasearch/
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a server where the website is hosted - so it's just a matter of installing that I guess.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tajoli <tajoli@cilea.it> wrote:
Hi all,
> I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha > Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we > have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for > searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any > of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for > the manual on the Koha site.
i suggest to use http://swish-e.org/, a very good indexing tool. But we need a server and to set-up it.
Bye Zeno Tajoli
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One flaw with mine there is it only looks at the English manual url and is only set for English language --- easy to correct if you make your own. -reed On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
The best option might be to create your own at--
because then you can set the various options you might want and then also change it later.
But in the meantime you can use this--
<div id="cse" style="width: 100%;">Loading</div> <script src="http://www.google.com/jsapi" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> google.load('search', '1', {language : 'en'}); google.setOnLoadCallback(function() { var customSearchControl = new google.search.CustomSearchControl('016210760301254710709:eqm7n9rsfxq'); customSearchControl.setResultSetSize(google.search.Search.FILTERED_CSE_RESULTSET); customSearchControl.draw('cse'); }, true); </script> <link rel="stylesheet" href="http://www.google.com/cse/style/look/greensky.css" type="text/css" />
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
That's not difficult :) I'm all for it. I can edit the manual page I just need to the code you're talking about.
Nicole
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
I've updated it to search just under http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual
To put one of these on the site we just need to be able to add a div where it needs to appear plus a little javascript bit.
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Reed,
It was my understanding that Google wouldn't work for some reason. Also I don't know how you set this up, but it's searching the entire site, and I'm just looking for the manual. I do prefer Google over Bing any day though.
Nicole
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
How about Google? Here's an example of what could be done--
http://reedwade.net/misc/kohasearch/
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a server where the website is hosted - so it's just a matter of installing that I guess.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tajoli <tajoli@cilea.it> wrote: > Hi all, > >> I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha >> Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we >> have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for >> searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any >> of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for >> the manual on the Koha site. > > i suggest to use http://swish-e.org/, a very good indexing tool. > But we need a server and to set-up it. > > Bye > Zeno Tajoli > > _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
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Reed, Right now the only manual with any significant content is the English one - the French one is 3/4 English still as well :) Thanks for this!! Nicole On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 6:46 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
One flaw with mine there is it only looks at the English manual url and is only set for English language --- easy to correct if you make your own.
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:44 AM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
The best option might be to create your own at--
because then you can set the various options you might want and then also change it later.
But in the meantime you can use this--
<div id="cse" style="width: 100%;">Loading</div> <script src="http://www.google.com/jsapi" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> google.load('search', '1', {language : 'en'}); google.setOnLoadCallback(function() { var customSearchControl = new google.search.CustomSearchControl('016210760301254710709:eqm7n9rsfxq'); customSearchControl.setResultSetSize(google.search.Search.FILTERED_CSE_RESULTSET); customSearchControl.draw('cse'); }, true); </script> <link rel="stylesheet" href="http://www.google.com/cse/style/look/greensky.css" type="text/css" />
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
That's not difficult :) I'm all for it. I can edit the manual page I just need to the code you're talking about.
Nicole
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
I've updated it to search just under http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual
To put one of these on the site we just need to be able to add a div where it needs to appear plus a little javascript bit.
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Reed,
It was my understanding that Google wouldn't work for some reason. Also I don't know how you set this up, but it's searching the entire site, and I'm just looking for the manual. I do prefer Google over Bing any day though.
Nicole
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
How about Google? Here's an example of what could be done--
http://reedwade.net/misc/kohasearch/
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote: > We have a server where the website is hosted - so it's just a matter > of installing that I guess. > > On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tajoli <tajoli@cilea.it> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >>> I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha >>> Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we >>> have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for >>> searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any >>> of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for >>> the manual on the Koha site. >> >> i suggest to use http://swish-e.org/, a very good indexing tool. >> But we need a server and to set-up it. >> >> Bye >> Zeno Tajoli >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Koha-devel mailing list > Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org > http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
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I don't know that this is any better: http://koha-community.org/documentation/ I searched for a system preference and got no results, the same problem I had with Bing. Nicole On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
The best option might be to create your own at--
because then you can set the various options you might want and then also change it later.
But in the meantime you can use this--
<div id="cse" style="width: 100%;">Loading</div> <script src="http://www.google.com/jsapi" type="text/javascript"></script> <script type="text/javascript"> google.load('search', '1', {language : 'en'}); google.setOnLoadCallback(function() { var customSearchControl = new google.search.CustomSearchControl('016210760301254710709:eqm7n9rsfxq'); customSearchControl.setResultSetSize(google.search.Search.FILTERED_CSE_RESULTSET); customSearchControl.draw('cse'); }, true); </script> <link rel="stylesheet" href="http://www.google.com/cse/style/look/greensky.css" type="text/css" />
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
That's not difficult :) I'm all for it. I can edit the manual page I just need to the code you're talking about.
Nicole
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
I've updated it to search just under http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual
To put one of these on the site we just need to be able to add a div where it needs to appear plus a little javascript bit.
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
Reed,
It was my understanding that Google wouldn't work for some reason. Also I don't know how you set this up, but it's searching the entire site, and I'm just looking for the manual. I do prefer Google over Bing any day though.
Nicole
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
How about Google? Here's an example of what could be done--
http://reedwade.net/misc/kohasearch/
-reed
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
We have a server where the website is hosted - so it's just a matter of installing that I guess.
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM, tajoli <tajoli@cilea.it> wrote: > Hi all, > >> I've had some trouble with the search we have set up for the Koha >> Manual (it was quick and free and easy to set up so that's what we >> have for now). It's not showing all of the possible results for >> searches and it's not really very user friendly. I'm wondering if any >> of you very smart people have a better way we can set up a search for >> the manual on the Koha site. > > i suggest to use http://swish-e.org/, a very good indexing tool. > But we need a server and to set-up it. > > Bye > Zeno Tajoli > > _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@lists.koha-community.org http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know that this is any better: http://koha-community.org/documentation/
I searched for a system preference and got no results, the same problem I had with Bing.
http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c19#AEN1605 looks like a search engine unfriendly url the ?ch=c19#AEN1605 is probably not being followed so that content is not likely to get indexed by google or bing -reed
On 9 August 2010 11:21, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know that this is any better: http://koha-community.org/documentation/
I searched for a system preference and got no results, the same problem I had with Bing.
http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c19#AEN1605
looks like a search engine unfriendly url
the ?ch=c19#AEN1605 is probably not being followed so that content is not likely to get indexed by google or bing
Yep, Thats why I think Zeno was on the right track, run our own one, which we can tell to follow urls like that, and can also rebuild the index when the manual is updated. But instead of swish-e I would suggest xapian. I don't have time to set it up though, it will take someone else to actually do it. Chris
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> wrote:
On 9 August 2010 11:21, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know that this is any better: http://koha-community.org/documentation/
I searched for a system preference and got no results, the same problem I had with Bing.
http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c19#AEN1605
looks like a search engine unfriendly url
the ?ch=c19#AEN1605 is probably not being followed so that content is not likely to get indexed by google or bing
Yep, Thats why I think Zeno was on the right track, run our own one, which we can tell to follow urls like that, and can also rebuild the index when the manual is updated.
But instead of swish-e I would suggest xapian. I don't have time to set it up though, it will take someone else to actually do it.
That seems like the long away around (assuming there's a simple way to get whatever generates these manual pages to do it in a different way). Crawling urls with query strings when the url has already been crawled really is bad luck; it's definitely a defect in the manual generator. (and I'm not totally stuck on using Google it's just easy and already exists) -reed
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Reed, I'll ask wizzyrea (Liz) if she can send you the code she uses, maybe you can fix the code to generate different URLs (and if you do that I have other pet peeves that we haven't been able to solve) :) Thanks Nicole On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> wrote:
On 9 August 2010 11:21, Reed Wade <reed@catalyst.net.nz> wrote:
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Nicole Engard <nengard@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't know that this is any better: http://koha-community.org/documentation/
I searched for a system preference and got no results, the same problem I had with Bing.
http://koha-community.org/documentation/3-2-manual/?ch=c19#AEN1605
looks like a search engine unfriendly url
the ?ch=c19#AEN1605 is probably not being followed so that content is not likely to get indexed by google or bing
Yep, Thats why I think Zeno was on the right track, run our own one, which we can tell to follow urls like that, and can also rebuild the index when the manual is updated.
But instead of swish-e I would suggest xapian. I don't have time to set it up though, it will take someone else to actually do it.
That seems like the long away around (assuming there's a simple way to get whatever generates these manual pages to do it in a different way).
Crawling urls with query strings when the url has already been crawled really is bad luck; it's definitely a defect in the manual generator.
(and I'm not totally stuck on using Google it's just easy and already exists)
-reed
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