We (apparently) have some issues with installer.pl not really doing error reporting (ie, if it fails on dir creates, and apparently it won't notice if mysql isn't there). I realize the weekend is just starting, but it doesn't really seem "safe" yet for anyone with a view to using it as a production tool. I still am very fond of the idea of it, and most gratified Mike got it to where it is, but it apparently needs a little tune up -- Steve is going to take a look at it Monday, hopefully. Thoughts? Anyone? Nick