Re: [Koha-devel] Which is the best Linux flavour to work with Koha ?
Dear Dr. Manjunath I'm bit late in response and don't know what is the view of other Koha users. I can share my personal experience with you. I think community version of Redhat is now CentOS, not Fedora. So there may not be regular upgradation of Fedora in future. We shifted to Ubuntu with all our library specific FLOSSs like Koha (3.0.4 is we use now), DSpace (1.5.2) and Moodle (for LCMS on FLOSS). The beauty is that the smooth upgrading to the next release always ensured both for OS and Koha. Moreover, regular release cycle is helpful (twice in a year June April and October). Hope this help. Happy new year... Dr. Parthasarathi Mukhopadhyay Department of Library and Information Science University of Burdwan, Burdwan, West Bengal, India
----- Original Message ----- From: "G.K.MANJUNATH" <gkm@igidr.ac.in> To: koha-devel@lists.koha.org Subject: [Koha-devel] Which is the best Linux flavour to work with Koha ? Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:14:25 +0530 (India Standard Time)
We installed Koha on Fedora, Ubuntu and Debain and did not face any problem. I understand that, Debian is what most people use.
I need some suggestions. Which is the best Linux flavour to work on, especially with Koha and why ? Can any one please clarify ?
I do not want to frequently change the OS environment. However, later like to opt for the latest version of Koha ( 3.2 ), when fully tested.
Most important, we would like to use the same OS for other open source software such as Dspace and Greestone.
thanks,
Dr.G.K.Manjunath Chief Librarian Indira Gandhi Inst of Development Research Film City Road Santosh Nagar Goregaon(East ) MUMBAI - 400 065, India
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On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:09:22PM +0800, Partha Mukhopadhyay wrote:
I'm bit late in response and don't know what is the view of other Koha users. I can share my personal experience with you. I think community version of Redhat is now CentOS, not Fedora.
Actually: - Fedora is the communauty devedge, every new ideas comes in there - Redhat uses ferdora snapshots, stabilize them and certify commercial software/hardware to run on it. Then they provide updates for money. - Centos aims to be a free RHEL clone.
I need some suggestions. Which is the best Linux flavour to work on, especially with Koha and why ? Can any one please clarify ?
there is no "best linux flavour to work on". There are distributions that fits your needs. Our need is to install and maintain a koha system in production (with all the perl modules required). there is 2 approaches to maintain perl modules: - the cpan way gives access to all the cpan modules, newer ones! It's very good for developpers but unconfortable for administrators. - the system package management: if you can use it, the perl modules of koha are managed as all the other parts of the system: administrators loves it! The counterpart is that you can install only the packaged perl modules. If some are missing, you have to build packages for yourself. So when you install koha the biggest question is "how the distributor carre about perl? how easy it will be to install and maintain perl modules for koha from the system package management?". My own experience: OK: - Debian (and probably every maintained debian derived as ubuntu) comes with tons of packaged debian modules, very active communauty and tools to build your own packages and repo ( dh-make-perl, cpan2deb, dpkg-scanpackages ). - MacOs (using macports and cpan2port) if you already have mac servers, this could be the solution. Use linux/*BSD if not. Nightmares ( unreliable ? ) : - RHLE, Centos (and probably every rpm-based) comes with a 5.8.8 interpretor, a very thin amount of packages, no easy and maintained tool to create you own ones (perhaps i missed something here: please help!), devel packages too old to build XS parts of perl modules. Mandiva exception ?: I didn't test it but you ought to know that mandiva is very active in the perl world. the 5.10 pumpkin was mandiva employee and Jerome Quelin, another Mandiva employee, is very active and maintains a lot of packages up to date (including rakudo in the cooker). Jerome told me that he'll maintain the packages for koha dependencies if he knows that someone needs it. So Mandiva could become a good choice for koha. In general: I used a lot of linux distributions and it seems to me that the debian package system is much more confortable and reliable than the rpm based ones. + it seems that Ubuntu (debian derivative) is now leader of the linux distrbution. So if you have no preferences, my advice is to remove every rpm based from the candidate list. regards -- Marc Chantreux BibLibre, expert en logiciels libres pour l'info-doc http://biblibre.com
Marc Chantreux writes
- Debian (and probably every maintained debian derived as ubuntu) comes with tons of packaged debian modules, very active communauty and tools to build your own packages and repo ( dh-make-perl, cpan2deb, dpkg-scanpackages ).
In my latest build fo the stable version, the only perl module that is not packaged in debian is http::oai. I decided not to install this package at all, mean the oai functionality broken but never mind. If you could package it that would be great! Cheers, Thomas Krichel http://openlib.org/home/krichel http://authorclaim.org/profile/pkr1 skype: thomaskrichel
hello Thomas, On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 03:27:35PM +0100, Thomas Krichel wrote:
If you could package it that would be great!
I think it's easier for you to build the package, this is a crash course: aptitude install dh-make-perl mkdir /tmp/oai cd !$ EMAIL=you@koha.org dh-make-perl --cpan HTTP::OAI --build dpkg -i *deb every question is welcome :) regards -- Marc Chantreux BibLibre, expert en logiciels libres pour l'info-doc http://biblibre.com
Debian has consistently performed well for Koha installs for me. Ubuntu, being Debian based, is OK also but some run into issues. I personally like CentOS for a great number of things (VMware Server 2.0), LTSP, FileServer, however would not recommend installation of Koha on CentOS or Fedora, although I am sure it is possible. It would be interesting to hear of successful installations of Koha in other versions of Linux. Distros like Puppy and DSL are likely not going to work without rewriting some things. FreeBSD would be an interesting Koha installation. -Darrell Ulm _______________________________________________ Koha-devel mailing list Koha-devel@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/koha-devel
Darrell Ulm wrote:
It would be interesting to hear of successful installations of Koha in other versions of Linux. Distros like Puppy and DSL are likely not going to work without rewriting some things. FreeBSD would be an interesting Koha installation.
-Darrell Ulm
I installed Koha on an Asus EEE 900 (half-a-gig of RAM, 4 GB SSHD) running Easy Peasy, mostly just to see if I could. Easy Peasy is Ubuntu, put on an *extreme* diet for EEE Netbooks. The install ran very much like a normal Debian/Ubuntu install, and Koha *worked*, though it was--unsurprisingly--painfully slow. For lots of obvious reasons, I don't recommend this sort of setup, even as a development environment. But it *was* fun! J. David Bavousett Software Engineer Open Source & Library Systems | P | T | F | S |
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