Hi, i've taken some minuts to write a schema on my ideas for expert MARC editor in Koha 3.0 You can see it at www.koha-fr.org/MARC-E.pdf (OOo file at www.koha-fr.org/MARC-E.sxd) Let me know what you think of it ? Joshua, do you have student to work on this as you expected ? PS : I realize that it may not be clear or what is typed by the librarian : everything that is blue on my schema. (what is in green is automatically filled by javascript) -- Paul POULAIN Consultant indépendant en logiciels libres responsable francophone de koha (SIGB libre http://www.koha-fr.org)
i've taken some minuts to write a schema on my ideas for expert MARC editor in Koha 3.0 Let me know what you think of it ? Joshua, do you have student to work on this as you expected ? It looks very good Paul and is just what I had in mind. And yes,
On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 06:24:56PM +0200, Paul POULAIN wrote: there are some students working on it as we speak ... but it will take some time before they have something to show. I think that AJAX is definitely the way to go. There are a few other features that are critical that I've outlined on the CatalogingProject wiki: http://athenscounty.lib.oh.us/wiki/doku.php?id=catalogingproject For instance, a context-sensitive help feature so that a cataloger can press 'F1' or some other hotkey and get information about a given field or about the proper syntax according to AACR2, etc. Cheers, -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Featuring Koha Open-Source ILS jmf@liblime.com |Full Demos at http://liblime.com/koha |1(888)KohaILS
Hi all, I've been speaking to a couple of US law libraries who are very interested in Koha. All seems well except for one hitch: they require that serials be MARC-compliant. So my question is, what would be involved in 'linking' a serial to a MARC record? Also, what would be the best way to handle 'holdings' in such a scenerio. There are likely some funds available to get Koha where it needs to be so let's try to figure out what the best way to proceed is ... any comments? Cheers, -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Featuring Koha Open-Source ILS jmf@liblime.com |Full Demos at http://liblime.com/koha |1(888)KohaILS
Hi all,
So my question is, what would be involved in 'linking' a serial to a MARC record? Also, what would be the best way to handle 'holdings' in such a scenerio.
We are also starting to do some work for a client here on serials as well. We are at the spec stage. The library we working with is not focused on MARC at the moment, but that may change so we also would like any work that we do to be MARC compliant. It is going to prevent headaches further down the track. So I guess we are asking the same questions as Joshua. If someone can define exactly what MARC compliant serials are, that would be great. Cheers Russel -- Russel Garlick Operations Manager Katipo Communications Ph: +64 4 934 1285 Fax: +64 4 934 1286 Mob: +64 27 537 1377 Skype: russelgarlick Web http://www.katipo.co.nz
Russel Garlick a écrit :
So I guess we are asking the same questions as Joshua. If someone can define exactly what MARC compliant serials are, that would be great.
+1. I would be pleased to have a librarian explaining how to manage serials in MARC21. In UNIMARC too also, as afaik, there are no specific fields for serials in UNIMARC -- Paul POULAIN Consultant indépendant en logiciels libres responsable francophone de koha (SIGB libre http://www.koha-fr.org)
Paul POULAIN said:
Russel Garlick a écrit :
So I guess we are asking the same questions as Joshua. If someone can define exactly what MARC compliant serials are, that would be great.
+1. I would be pleased to have a librarian explaining how to manage serials in MARC21. In UNIMARC too also, as afaik, there are no specific fields for serials in UNIMARC
There are a few special fields in a MARC bibliographic record that are important for serials, especially the ISSN field (022 in MARC 21, 011 in UNIMARC) and the Key Title field (222 in MARC 21, 530 in UNIMARC). These are important because serials are notorious for changing their titles over the course of their publication history. But the really interesting MARC stuff pertaining to serials (for our purposes, anyway) happens in the MARC holdings records. If you look at the Captions and Patterns fields (853-855 in MARC 21, 500-502 in UNIMARC) and the Enumeration and Chronology fields (863-865 in MARC 21, 510-512 in UNIMARC) you'll see a lot of complex ways to define publication frequency, numbering patterns, etc., very similar to the type of information we're currently storing in the Koha "serial" table. (see http://www.loc.gov/marc/holdings/echdhome.html and http://www.ifla.org/VI/8/projects/UNIMARC-HoldingsFormat04.pdf) The "Holy Grail" of serials management for libraries is an easy-to-use software that: 1) describes the publication in general terms (and keeps track of name changes); 2) warns the librarian when issues are missing or late; and 3) allows adding of issues with item information that is detailed enough to identify the item by barcode _and_ date (without creating a separate MARC record for each issue). I don't know of *anyone* who's come up with a really good system for this. Maybe the law library Joshua has been talking with has _lots_ of money? -- Stephen Hedges Skemotah Solutions, USA www.skemotah.com -- shedges@skemotah.com
I guess I'm not fully understanding the problem here. You already have to create a biblio record in Koha before you can add a serials subscription. So if you're using MARC biblios, I would assume you create a MARC record for the serial. For MARC 21, LoC gives an example: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/serial.html. Holdings are another matter -- we *do* have a problem there. But it seems Koha otherwise already allows for MARC records for serials. (What did I misunderstand?) Stephen Joshua Ferraro said:
Hi all,
I've been speaking to a couple of US law libraries who are very interested in Koha. All seems well except for one hitch: they require that serials be MARC-compliant. So my question is, what would be involved in 'linking' a serial to a MARC record? Also, what would be the best way to handle 'holdings' in such a scenerio. There are likely some funds available to get Koha where it needs to be so let's try to figure out what the best way to proceed is ... any comments?
Cheers, -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Featuring Koha Open-Source ILS jmf@liblime.com |Full Demos at http://liblime.com/koha |1(888)KohaILS
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I think MARC *holdings* are meant. Any time I've been involved with discussions of MARC in the context of serials, the implied meaning is MARC holdings records--that's the most important part to serials catalogers. Spencer On 10/8/05, Stephen Hedges <shedges@skemotah.com> wrote:
I guess I'm not fully understanding the problem here. You already have to create a biblio record in Koha before you can add a serials subscription. So if you're using MARC biblios, I would assume you create a MARC record for the serial. For MARC 21, LoC gives an example: http://www.loc.gov/marc/bibliographic/serial.html.
Holdings are another matter -- we *do* have a problem there. But it seems Koha otherwise already allows for MARC records for serials.
(What did I misunderstand?)
Stephen
Joshua Ferraro said:
Hi all,
I've been speaking to a couple of US law libraries who are very interested in Koha. All seems well except for one hitch: they require that serials be MARC-compliant. So my question is, what would be involved in 'linking' a serial to a MARC record? Also, what would be the best way to handle 'holdings' in such a scenerio. There are likely some funds available to get Koha where it needs to be so let's try to figure out what the best way to proceed is ... any comments?
Cheers, -- Joshua Ferraro VENDOR SERVICES FOR OPEN-SOURCE SOFTWARE President, Technology migration, training, maintenance, support LibLime Featuring Koha Open-Source ILS jmf@liblime.com |Full Demos at http://liblime.com/koha |1(888)KohaILS
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Very interesting, Paul. This would definitely be an "expert" interface. There's no help, for instance on which tags or subfields are repeatable. But for people who really know what they are doing, it's simple and clean. The interface does not fill the screen with a lot of stuff they don't need. Stephen Paul POULAIN said:
Hi,
i've taken some minuts to write a schema on my ideas for expert MARC editor in Koha 3.0
You can see it at www.koha-fr.org/MARC-E.pdf (OOo file at www.koha-fr.org/MARC-E.sxd)
Let me know what you think of it ? Joshua, do you have student to work on this as you expected ?
PS : I realize that it may not be clear or what is typed by the librarian : everything that is blue on my schema. (what is in green is automatically filled by javascript)
-- Paul POULAIN Consultant indépendant en logiciels libres responsable francophone de koha (SIGB libre http://www.koha-fr.org)
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