About defaults of indicators for auth merges
Hi Marcel, I write to you and here same thoughts about defaults of indicators for auth merges. You say: "We actually need framework default indicators first to address merges crossing the authtype border correctly". As start we need to remember that indicators for Auth are different from Biblio indicators (see bug 14769). I think this true only for this specific case: auth 'A' type '1' merge auth 'B' type '2' = auth 'CC' type '3' in case auth 'A' type '1' merge auth 'B' type '2' = auth 'CC' type '1' we need to use indicators of auth 'A' The code of bug 9701 is about Biblio indicators. We need new code, in different .pl, and new columns, in different tables, for authority. Bye Zeno Tajoli -- Zeno Tajoli /SVILUPPO PRODOTTI CINECA/ - Automazione Biblioteche Email: z.tajoli@cineca.it Fax: 051/6132198 *CINECA* Consorzio Interuniversitario - Sede operativa di Segrate (MI)
Hi Zeno, You are right about the need for having default indicators too on the authority side. That would be welcome too. But in this specific case (when we change authority type in a merge) we need as a fallback the default indicators of the biblio record. ( As you explained on bug 14769, we cannot trust the indicators from the authority record. Since the indicators on a 100 authority cannot be used on a 600 biblio field etc. -- Who invented those rules, should be rewarded ;) In the code we now copy the old biblio field indicators into the new biblio field, and these may be similarly wrong for another biblio field. So I would like to fallback to the default indicators of that new biblio field; they may still be wrong too, but better than nothing. Choosing between two bicycles, while you want a car. That said, this is advanced authority merging. I would normally not recommend changing type. It should be an exception. So probably we can consider this as minor issue. Thanks for your feedback, Marcel ________________________________ Van: Tajoli Zeno <z.tajoli@cineca.it> Verzonden: dinsdag 17 januari 2017 09:51:40 Aan: Marcel de Rooy; koha-devel Onderwerp: About defaults of indicators for auth merges Hi Marcel, I write to you and here same thoughts about defaults of indicators for auth merges. You say: "We actually need framework default indicators first to address merges crossing the authtype border correctly". As start we need to remember that indicators for Auth are different from Biblio indicators (see bug 14769). I think this true only for this specific case: auth 'A' type '1' merge auth 'B' type '2' = auth 'CC' type '3' in case auth 'A' type '1' merge auth 'B' type '2' = auth 'CC' type '1' we need to use indicators of auth 'A' The code of bug 9701 is about Biblio indicators. We need new code, in different .pl, and new columns, in different tables, for authority. Bye Zeno Tajoli -- Zeno Tajoli /SVILUPPO PRODOTTI CINECA/ - Automazione Biblioteche Email: z.tajoli@cineca.it Fax: 051/6132198 *CINECA* Consorzio Interuniversitario - Sede operativa di Segrate (MI)
Hi Marcel, Il 17/01/2017 15:25, Marcel de Rooy ha scritto:
But in this specific case (when we change authority type in a merge) we need as a fallback the default indicators of the biblio record. ( As you explained on bug 14769, we cannot trust the indicators from the authority record. Since the indicators on a 100 authority cannot be used on a 600 biblio field etc. -- Who invented those rules, should be rewarded ;)
in fact we partialy trust the indicators from the authority record tag 110 'A' + tag 111 'B' = tag 100 'CC' an tag 100 'CC' is connect with biblios 100s, 700s, 600s, etc. I hope that before to definitily save I can fix indicators in auth. I think is mandatory to have 'change-by-hand' in merge. After I save; now modifications start on biblios records and tags. What we want ? Knowing that auth tag = 100, I know that I can copy 1° auth indicator into 1° bib tag indicator. And for the second bib tag indicator ? Two option: -1) default of bib tag framewok [your solution] -2) mantain what is still present [I prefer this option]. I think that the selection between the two option could by done by a system preference. Bye Zeno Tajoli -- Zeno Tajoli /SVILUPPO PRODOTTI CINECA/ - Automazione Biblioteche Email: z.tajoli@cineca.it Fax: 051/6132198 *CINECA* Consorzio Interuniversitario - Sede operativa di Segrate (MI)
Hi Zeno, Good observations again ! I posted my response on Bugzilla report 14769. Those interested will pick it up from there. https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=14769 Thanks, Marcel ________________________________ Van: Tajoli Zeno <z.tajoli@cineca.it> Verzonden: dinsdag 17 januari 2017 17:05:36 Aan: Marcel de Rooy; Koha-devel Onderwerp: Re: About defaults of indicators for auth merges Hi Marcel, Il 17/01/2017 15:25, Marcel de Rooy ha scritto:
But in this specific case (when we change authority type in a merge) we need as a fallback the default indicators of the biblio record. ( As you explained on bug 14769, we cannot trust the indicators from the authority record. Since the indicators on a 100 authority cannot be used on a 600 biblio field etc. -- Who invented those rules, should be rewarded ;)
in fact we partialy trust the indicators from the authority record tag 110 'A' + tag 111 'B' = tag 100 'CC' an tag 100 'CC' is connect with biblios 100s, 700s, 600s, etc. I hope that before to definitily save I can fix indicators in auth. I think is mandatory to have 'change-by-hand' in merge. After I save; now modifications start on biblios records and tags. What we want ? Knowing that auth tag = 100, I know that I can copy 1° auth indicator into 1° bib tag indicator. And for the second bib tag indicator ? Two option: -1) default of bib tag framewok [your solution] -2) mantain what is still present [I prefer this option]. I think that the selection between the two option could by done by a system preference. Bye Zeno Tajoli -- Zeno Tajoli /SVILUPPO PRODOTTI CINECA/ - Automazione Biblioteche Email: z.tajoli@cineca.it Fax: 051/6132198 *CINECA* Consorzio Interuniversitario - Sede operativa di Segrate (MI)
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