From tajoli at cilea.it Tue Jul 13 16:07:41 2010 From: tajoli at cilea.it (Zeno Tajoli) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 16:07:41 +0200 Subject: [koha-Infos] To define default 9xx fields for Unimarc setup in all languages Message-ID: <20100713140743.3DD5F4705F@eliot.biblibre.com> Hi to all [Sorry for the english but I don't konw French] I sent this mail to different Koha-mailing list because the topic is quite wide. If you are also on koha-dev list, replaty to this list. Instead replay on koha general list. I send the mail also to koha-france because many user of Unimarc are French. But I don't know French, please replay to koha general list or to koha-dev. Today the complete Unimarc setups are the English and French, As I know Italian, Ukrain, Russian and Poland setups are direct translation of English or Frence setup But on local fields English and French are not compatible. Many 9xx fields need to be the same in different languages because the indexes definitions in the file etc/zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/biblios/record.abs are based on specific 9xx values. And the file record.abs is only one for all Unimarc setup So my proposal, for 3.2 and also [if possible ] for 3.0.x We re-write English setup in 9xx fields and we use it a minimun and a standard that ALL unimarc setups need to follow. It means that we need same change also to French setup. I want to discuss with everyone about this topic. I will write all the patch to fix the situation. So my proposal: Fields: 001 Local number -> biblio.biblionumber 090$a Local number -> biblioitems.biblioitemnumber 099$c date of creation -> biblio.datecreated 099$d Date/time last modified -> biblio.timestamp 995$0 Withdrawn status -> items.wthdrawn 995$2 Lost status -> items.itemlost 995$3 Use restrictions -> items.restricted 995$5 Date acquired -> items.dateaccessioned 995$6 Copy number -> items.copynumber 995$7 URI -> items.uri 995$8 Koha collection -> items.ccode 995$9 Internal item number -> items.itemnumber 995$a Homebranch (free text) ->items.homebranch 995$b Homebranch (coded) 995$d Holding branch (free text) -> items.holdingbranch 995$d Holding branch (coded) 995$e Shelving location-> items.location 995$f Barcode -> items.barcode 995$j Inventory number -> items.stocknumber [only 3.2] 995$k Call number -> items.itemcallnumber, 995$l Numbering (volume or other part) -> items.materials 995$m Date of loan or deposit -> items.datelastborrowed 995$n Expiration of loan date -> items.onloan 995$o Circulation type (not for loan) -> items.notforloan 995$r Type of item and material -> items.itype 995$v Serial Enumeration / chronology -> items.enumchron [only serials] 995$u Copy note -> items.itemnotes 942$0 Koha issues (borrowed), all copies -> biblioitems.totalissues 942$2 Source of classification or shelving scheme -> biblioitems.cn_source 942$6 Koha normalized classification for sorting -> biblioitems.cn_sort 942$c Koha [default] item type -> biblioitems.itemtype 942$s Serial record flag -> biblio.serial 1)Fields 001 and 090$a, BIB Identifier in two places As French setup, to ahve a correct Unimarc we need BIB id in two places: 001 -> biblio.biblionumber 090 $9 -> biblioitems.biblioitemnumber biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber must be numerir, we need to stress this fact in data conversions 2)Field 995 as item field with those subfields: This proposal is full compatible with French Unimarc setup and it has also the items subfields that are mandatory for circulation, inventory, acquisitions and serials. 3)Field 942 as biblio/item field. This field is new for all unimarc setup, in english unimarc setup there is 990 but 990 is similar, not identical. I select 942 instead of 990 because 990 is present in French setup with a specific meaning. I ask to French people to accept to put biblioitems.totalissues in 942$0, it is the base of the popularity index. Now the base of popularity index is in 995$s. This proposal is only a minimum, if you think there are others 9xx fields/subfields that MUST be present in every setup, please replay. If you want to discuss it, please replay. Bye to all Zeno Tajoli Zeno Tajoli CILEA - Segrate (MI) tajoliAT_SPAM_no_prendiATcilea.it (Indirizzo mascherato anti-spam; sostituisci quanto tra AT con @) From jean.bernon at univ-lyon3.fr Fri Jul 16 15:57:18 2010 From: jean.bernon at univ-lyon3.fr (BERNON Jean) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:57:18 +0200 Subject: [koha-Infos] To define default 9xx fields for Unimarc setup in all languages In-Reply-To: <20100713140743.3DD5F4705F@eliot.biblibre.com> References: <20100713140743.3DD5F4705F@eliot.biblibre.com> Message-ID: Hi Zeno, Fixing a common use of 995 tag is a good idea but uneasy to do. Local fields are... local. I am not sure that there is ONE French setup for 995. Here is the University Lyon 3 setup for 995, very different from yours. 1 Fund 2 Price -> items.price 3 DateLastSeen -> items.datelastseen 4 IssuesNumber -> items.issues 5 StatisticCode -> items.statisticvalue 6 EntryDate -> items.dateaccessioned 7 UpdateDate -> items.timestamp 8 LastIssueDate -> items.datelastborrowed 9 itemnumber -> items.itemnumber b HomeBranch -> items.homebranch d HoldingBranch -> items.holdingbranch f BarCode -> items.barcode i CallNumSuffix j Location -> items.location k CallNum -> items.itemcallnumber l CallNumPrefix -> items.materials n DueDate -> items.onloan o Availability -> items.notforloan r LoanRule -> items.itype s CallNumSource -> items.cn_source u ItemNote -> items.itemnotes v Damaged -> items.damaged w Lost -> items.itemlost z Withdrawn -> items.wthdrawn Biblionumber and biblioitemnumber are in 999 and not 099 We use a bibliographic ccode in 319 to limit searching by document type. 319 according to the format of the University national catalog SUDOC. I like some of your fields : URI, bibliographic entry and update dates. In order to be complete, I have to say that your proposal agrees with the history of 995 tag. French librarians from public libraries first used 995 to establish a common recommandation and you can have a look at the genuine recommandation Bye Jean Bernon Université Jean Moulin Lyon3 -----Message d'origine----- De : infos-bounces at listes.koha-fr.org [mailto:infos-bounces at listes.koha-fr.org] De la part de Zeno Tajoli Envoyé : mardi 13 juillet 2010 16:08 À : infos at listes.koha-fr.org Objet : [koha-Infos] To define default 9xx fields for Unimarc setup in all languages Hi to all [Sorry for the english but I don't konw French] I sent this mail to different Koha-mailing list because the topic is quite wide. If you are also on koha-dev list, replaty to this list. Instead replay on koha general list. I send the mail also to koha-france because many user of Unimarc are French. But I don't know French, please replay to koha general list or to koha-dev. Today the complete Unimarc setups are the English and French, As I know Italian, Ukrain, Russian and Poland setups are direct translation of English or Frence setup But on local fields English and French are not compatible. Many 9xx fields need to be the same in different languages because the indexes definitions in the file etc/zebradb/marc_defs/unimarc/biblios/record.abs are based on specific 9xx values. And the file record.abs is only one for all Unimarc setup So my proposal, for 3.2 and also [if possible ] for 3.0.x We re-write English setup in 9xx fields and we use it a minimun and a standard that ALL unimarc setups need to follow. It means that we need same change also to French setup. I want to discuss with everyone about this topic. I will write all the patch to fix the situation. So my proposal: Fields: 001 Local number -> biblio.biblionumber 090$a Local number -> biblioitems.biblioitemnumber 099$c date of creation -> biblio.datecreated 099$d Date/time last modified -> biblio.timestamp 995$0 Withdrawn status -> items.wthdrawn 995$2 Lost status -> items.itemlost 995$3 Use restrictions -> items.restricted 995$5 Date acquired -> items.dateaccessioned 995$6 Copy number -> items.copynumber 995$7 URI -> items.uri 995$8 Koha collection -> items.ccode 995$9 Internal item number -> items.itemnumber 995$a Homebranch (free text) ->items.homebranch 995$b Homebranch (coded) 995$d Holding branch (free text) -> items.holdingbranch 995$d Holding branch (coded) 995$e Shelving location-> items.location 995$f Barcode -> items.barcode 995$j Inventory number -> items.stocknumber [only 3.2] 995$k Call number -> items.itemcallnumber, 995$l Numbering (volume or other part) -> items.materials 995$m Date of loan or deposit -> items.datelastborrowed 995$n Expiration of loan date -> items.onloan 995$o Circulation type (not for loan) -> items.notforloan 995$r Type of item and material -> items.itype 995$v Serial Enumeration / chronology -> items.enumchron [only serials] 995$u Copy note -> items.itemnotes 942$0 Koha issues (borrowed), all copies -> biblioitems.totalissues 942$2 Source of classification or shelving scheme -> biblioitems.cn_source 942$6 Koha normalized classification for sorting -> biblioitems.cn_sort 942$c Koha [default] item type -> biblioitems.itemtype 942$s Serial record flag -> biblio.serial 1)Fields 001 and 090$a, BIB Identifier in two places As French setup, to ahve a correct Unimarc we need BIB id in two places: 001 -> biblio.biblionumber 090 $9 -> biblioitems.biblioitemnumber biblio.biblionumber and biblioitems.biblioitemnumber must be numerir, we need to stress this fact in data conversions 2)Field 995 as item field with those subfields: This proposal is full compatible with French Unimarc setup and it has also the items subfields that are mandatory for circulation, inventory, acquisitions and serials. 3)Field 942 as biblio/item field. This field is new for all unimarc setup, in english unimarc setup there is 990 but 990 is similar, not identical. I select 942 instead of 990 because 990 is present in French setup with a specific meaning. I ask to French people to accept to put biblioitems.totalissues in 942$0, it is the base of the popularity index. Now the base of popularity index is in 995$s. This proposal is only a minimum, if you think there are others 9xx fields/subfields that MUST be present in every setup, please replay. If you want to discuss it, please replay. Bye to all Zeno Tajoli Zeno Tajoli CILEA - Segrate (MI) tajoliAT_SPAM_no_prendiATcilea.it (Indirizzo mascherato anti-spam; sostituisci quanto tra AT con @) _______________________________________________ Infos mailing list Infos at listes.koha-fr.org https://listes.koha-fr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/infos -------------- section suivante -------------- Une pièce jointe HTML a été nettoyée... URL: