[Koha-devel] Re: Re: HTML files Summary: Expires:

acli@ada.dhs.org via news-to-mail gateway news-misc at ada.dhs.org
Wed Jan 22 01:30:03 CET 2003


[Sorry, I'm getting off-topic for the list]

In article <000001c2c1e0$13749e00$5800a8c0 at pftqg.com>,
Patrick Quinn-Graham <lists at pftqg.com> wrote:

> Of course, really we should be using <em> and <strong>...
>
> I've done a couple of sites in only CSS type thing, and it's
> easy enough to do, and isn't hard to degrade nicely. In any
> case, text browsers won't do <i>, which is generally more
> valuable (than, say U).

Yes, text browsers generally won't do I, which is a pity; I
think, of all terminal emulators that I have encountered, only
aixterm can do italics.

I am for CSS, but I do disagree strongly about W3C's notion of
"style" tags having no semantic relevance, which is of course
false since semantic relevance depends on how you use it (partly
depending on what the text on the web page says). And I have a
strong feeling that they are deprecating useful things and at
the same time creating new useless things because they don't
understand how HTML is being used. (And, judging from their
lack of interest in fixing the block-level-element mess, they
don't even understand the languages--English even--that web
pages are written in, so much for descriptive markup.)

For example, they say U is just "style", but in reality they
don't know that in Chinese U is a full-fledged punctuation mark
(you might say "deprecated", but it is still taught in schools
and people still use it) and therefore always semantically
relevant in at least one language, yet there is no way to
achive U, other than using U, under a normal text-browser
environment. Another example: the new CSS "word-break" property,
obviously designed for CJK, is, I must point out, completely
useless because it requires the text to be in a "block" display
context, when the only use for such a property is when the text
is in an "inline" display context.

Just my own $0,2's worth,

--
Ambrose LI Cheuk-Wing <a.c.li at ieee.org>
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Ambrose LI Cheuk-Wing  <a.c.li at ieee.org>




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