[Koha-devel] [URGENT] Move away from Savannah/CVS

Kyle Hall kyle.m.hall at gmail.com
Thu Mar 15 13:59:18 CET 2007


I just wanted to throw my 2 cents in.
First, on the move from CVS to Subversion. I know there have been fears
circulating about learning a new vcs, but I've used both CVS and SVN, and I
have to say I find subversion much easier to use in my opinion. It was
written by the same author as CVS to replace CVS and to address many issues
CVS had. I use subversion for my koha-tools repository on Sourceforge.
Put simply, I fully endorse a move from CVS to Subversion.
As for switching to Google Code. I do not believe that Google is evil. I
believe they have reliable hardware, and I also believe that they fully
endorse open source and are trying to benefit the FOSS community while
benefiting themselves. I think we should be backing up our VCS whatever it
may be on a weekly or nightly basis. That way, I whoever is hosting the
repository were to dissapear overnight, we wouldn't lose our code history.

Kyle

On 3/15/07, Dan Scott <denials at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 14/03/07, Joshua M. Ferraro <jmf at liblime.com> wrote:
> > Hi folks
> > This is the kind of email I hate to have to write. We're
> > facing some urgency on a rather important issue: Savannah
> > has been down for two days now, and we're going to have to
> > make some quick decisions to avoid losing any more work
> > time.
> >
> > This also comes at a point in time when we've decided to
> > pick a new version control system to replace CVS.
> >
> > I caught paul/hdl this morning, and we feel a move to SVN
> > with hosting from Google is the best solution:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/hosting/
> >
> > Here are the likely questions, and our answers:
> >
> > Q: why SVN and not git, arch, etc.?
> > A: while a distributed repository makes good sense in theory,
> > we fear that it will be a barrier to entry for new library
> > software developers and we'll end up spending a disproportionate
> > amount of time teaching and managing version control
> >
> > Q: why not host a SVN repo at koha.org or koha-fr.org?
> > A: we're software developers, not proper sys admins, and at
> > this point in our community development it's not fair to
> > place the burden of managing the repo on any one development
> > team.
> >
> > Q: why google instead of gna.org, etc.
> > A: hosting at a project like gna.org, could result in the
> > same situation we're in now in a few months. With Google,
> > we get a Subversion implementation backed by Google's
> > massively scalable, highly available storage technology,
> > and some of the best sys admins in the world.
> >
> > Q: what about licensing?
> > A: Google is acting as a code repository, they are not
> > assuming copyright on the code, or changing the license.
> > We're sticking with GPL version 2 or greater.
> >
> > Any questions, see Google's Terms of Use:
> >
> > http://code.google.com/tos.html
> >
> > Q: What about losing all our version history?
> > A: A move to Google will mean we'll lose our version
> > history, that's true. Personally, I can't imagine
> > we'd want to roll back any of the code in either
> > rel_2_2, dev_week or head.
> >
> > I'd like to arrive at a concensus today about this issue
> > if at all possible, so we can get back to work ...
> > so please send your comments/suggestions/flames asap.
>
> Just don't forget that code.google.com only offers 100MB of SVN
> hosting per project. Probably not an issue with Koha, but I thought it
> would be worth mentioning.
>
> Dan Scott
>
>
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