[Koha-devel] ES6 usage in the staff client

[Christopher Davis]

Interesting topic!


Christopher Davis
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On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 5:54 PM, David Cook <dcook at prosentient.com.au> wrote:

> I agree with Michael. While great strides have been made to get people off
> of IE6 and IE7 and Windows XP, there are still a lot of professionals being
> forced by their IT departments to use older versions of Windows and older
> versions of Internet Explorer.
>
> Over the years, I've upstreamed a number of IE fixes and in a sense been a
> de facto Koha IE maintainer, but it sounds like that might not be possible
> in this case. If we go too far away from what users - rather than
> developers - actually use... then I think we have a problem. I think we'd
> be forfeiting users and potential users of Koha to other systems or to
> out-dated versions of Koha.
>
> Maybe this is a crossroads where developing multiple themes again might be
> a good idea. I don't love the idea, but that might be one way of having an
> up-to-date backend with a modern front-end and a legacy front-end for
> people who can't have a modern option. In that case, it would be all the
> more reason for keeping business logic in code rather than templates. But
> that's just one idea.
>
> Then again... maybe completely breaking Koha's staff end for IE users
> would make professionals put more demands on their IT departments. Demands
> such that IT departments were forced to actually support Firefox or Chrome.
> I wouldn't hold my breath, but... you never know. I could see us bending
> over backwards locally to provide an option to IE users though. And off the
> top of my head that would probably mean staying on an older version of Koha
> or trying to create our own theme to work with an upgraded backend or to
> replace the staff client all together with a simplified cross-browser user
> interface.
>
> David Cook
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org [mailto:
> koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org] On Behalf Of Michael Kuhn
> Sent: Friday, 4 August 2017 10:04 PM
> To: koha-devel at lists.koha-community.org
> Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] ES6 usage in the staff client
>
> Am 04.08.2017 um 13:48 schrieb Owen Leonard:
> >>    * Use ES6 classes. This will work in Firefox 45+ (which includes
> >> two ESR releases), Chrome 42+, Edge and Safari 9
> >
> > I'm leaning towards this option, but it would be nice to get some
> > feedback from users (or from support companies who ask their users?)
> > who might be required by their workplace to use IE.
> >
> > What are you working on?
>
> In
> https://koha-community.org/manual/17.05/html/00_intro.
> html#koha-recommendations
> the documentation says: "When working in the Koha staff client it is
> strongly recommended that you use the Firefox browser. Koha’s staff client
> is not supported in Internet Explorer and has not yet been fully optimized
> for Google Chrome."
>
> Personally I am working with Mozilla Firefox 54.0.
>
> But a lot of Koha staff users still work on MS Internet Explorer and
> usually they are FORCED to do so by their IT departments. Probably many or
> even most library users are also using the MS Internet Explorer when
> accessing the OPAC, so I think this unloved webbrowser definitely has to be
> supported in one way or the other (if not both).
>
> Best wishes: Michael
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