[Koha-devel] FW: Where is the BIG RED WARNING button?

Fri Aug 11 11:08:36 CEST 2017

Hi all,

I like Magnus' suggestion of using the Dashboard. I look at it often and 
it's usually my starting point before signing off patches. Now with 
Jenkins status being back on it, it's even more useful for me RMaint. 
Maybe we could add a section for the RM to post urgent messages? Most of 
the Dashboard is data pulled in from difference sources, not sure how to 
best add it to it.

Katrin

On 11.08.2017 11:03, Magnus Enger wrote:
> Kia ora!
>
> I agree that there should be *one* place to get an overview of the
> health of the project and what needs doing (at least as far as bugs
> go), and for me the natural place for that is the dashboard:
> http://dashboard.koha-community.org/
>
> We could probably do more with that, and the data behind it (from
> Bugzilla). Like:
> - display blockers/critical bugs in big red letters across the top.
> (Or use tags to let the RM choose bugs that should be specially
> highlighted.)
> - make the favicon red when there are such blockers (developers could
> have the dashboard always open in a pinned tab)
> - highlight the people who helped signoff and qa those critical patches
>
> As for what to work on and when: With a lot more customers there is a
> lot less time to sign off patches. So if I am going to do it I need to
> find one that
> - fits in the time I have available
> - is relevant to my customers
> - is in a part of Koha I know, or it will take a lot more time
> (signing off patches in unknown parts of Koha is great for learning,
> of course, but it will take more time)
>
> Just my NOK 0,02.
>
> Best regards,
> Magnus
> Libriotech
>
> On 11 August 2017 at 02:01, David Cook <dcook at prosentient.com.au> wrote:
>> I have Arduinos and Raspberry Pis at my desk. Maybe making a literal big red
>> warning light isn’t a bad idea… ;). We could call it “The Bug Signal” after
>> The Bat Signal. We could make a Kickstarter!
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m joking about the Kickstarter, but I kind of like the idea of a little
>> physical Koha bug display :p.
>>
>>
>>
>> David Cook
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>> From: koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org
>> [mailto:koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org] On Behalf Of Jonathan
>> Druart
>> Sent: Friday, 11 August 2017 1:14 AM
>> To: Indranil Das Gupta <indradg at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Koha-devel <koha-devel at lists.koha-community.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] FW: Where is the BIG RED WARNING button?
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Indranil,
>>
>>
>>
>> Of course I was not talking about new contributors. My main goal for this
>> release is to help new people to come on-board.
>>
>> We refreshed the wiki, wrote a step-by-step how-to "signoff and write
>> patches", etc.
>>
>> I give personal answers to new contributors, guide them, give them quick and
>> early feedbacks on their patches in order to keep them motivated.
>>
>>
>>
>> This button I am asking for is to alert support companies and regular
>> developers that something is (very) urgent and need their attention. I would
>> like to stop gesticulating to try getting this attention. I would like a
>> button I can push to make a red blinking light on some desks. Then everybody
>> is free to ignore it, but they saw it and I will not push it again. It will
>> be easier for me to know that people knows, than sending emails, pinging on
>> #koha, adding card to the kanban, CCing people on the bug report, without
>> never knowing if they are aware of the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> About the kanban: its goal is NOT to replace bugzilla, it has never been and
>> will never be.
>>
>> We are talking about two different tools. One is a bug tracker, the other
>> one is a tool to manage/prioritize different tasks, group them under "Epic"
>> (big works), form working groups, etc. Moreover community tasks are not
>> always one entry in bugzilla, we want to track, discuss and keep history of
>> more stuffs than just bugs. Taiga answered this lack. Please re-read the
>> wiki page of the kanban if its goal is not clear (or ask me to update it).
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 at 06:43 Indranil Das Gupta <indradg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 7:25 PM, Jonathan Druart
>> <jonathan.druart at bugs.koha-community.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I do not see the point to sign-off and QA trivial string patches when
>>> blockers are in the queue for weeks (no need to tell me everybody does
>>> what
>>> do they want, I still agree with that).
>> I completely get that blockers need to be sorted out. But personally I
>> got into Koha dev stream with string patches. How to write the tests
>> was a mystery to me in the initial days and I was afraid to get in
>> there. And when I did, I made mistakes which others helped clean up
>> and that's how I learnt and I'm still learning.
>>
>> For a newbie, seeing their trivial patch being signed off and pushed
>> is a shot of adrenaline and it gives them the confidence to bite into
>> bigger pieces. I'm sure that we do not want Koha development to be
>> seen as an oligarchy of expert devs, by not pushing the insignificant
>> patches when there are blocker patches, especially when there is a
>> call up for more "hands on the deck".
>>
>> Personally I was *not* happy with the shift to taiga. I knew my way
>> around BZ. Kanban was a new format to me and having to spend time to
>> learn a new pm tool was something that had me dragging my feet. But
>> then its human nature.to resist  change. :-)  I will probably just get
>> used to it in bit
>>
>> just my 2c
>>
>> indranil
>>
>> --
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