[Koha-devel] Koha now requires Perl 5.20

[Tomas Cohen Arazi]

I think you have a fair point on being very careful when doing this changes
. This Perl version is Jessie's. Following the daily duties of Koha
development ain't no easy task, that's for sure!
This things happen in master, though. I would expect release notes to
mention this of course.

I think it would be great to see people developing Koha for other platforms
(other than Debian-based ones). Unfortunately I haven't seen any work on
making it happen (besides manual source installs, which hasn't got much
attention lately either).

People that care should speak up as you do, and probably file bugs and send
patches.

El lun., 16 de abr. de 2018 11:21 p. m., David Cook <
dcook at prosentient.com.au> escribió:

> My proposal would be to first revert
> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20104.
>
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>
> As for minimum Perl versions, I think we’d want to be really careful about
> that, since we do have a global community of users running different
> underlying systems for different reasons.
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>
> If we’re concerned about the Perl version, I’d say add a “buyer beware”
> warning saying that Koha is developed to be used on Perl 5.20 on X, Y, Z
> Debian-based distribution.
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>
> If there really is a feature that is only available in Perl 5.20+, then I
> think we’d need to consider whether or not it is vital to the future of
> Koha. If it is, I think we’d need to make some pretty big announcements
> saying that Koha cannot work correctly on older systems.
>
>
>
> Basically, I prefer warnings over errors, and providing systems people
> with as much information as we can.
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> *From:* Tomas Cohen Arazi [mailto:tomascohen at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 17 April 2018 12:11 PM
> *To:* David Cook <dcook at prosentient.com.au>
> *Cc:* koha-devel at lists.koha-community.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Koha-devel] Koha now requires Perl 5.20
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> What's your proposal?
>
> El lun., 16 de abr. de 2018 10:42 p. m., David Cook <
> dcook at prosentient.com.au> escribió:
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> I just tried to work on Koha master on OpenSUSE 42.3, which was released
> on 2017-07-26, but I’m being prevented from installing Koha, because
> OpenSUSE 42.3 uses Perl 5.18.2 rather than Perl 5.20.
>
>
>
> I tracked the change back to
> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=20104. The
> claim was that C4::Log::cronlogaction uses caller and that caller doesn’t
> exist before Perl 5.20, but that’s not true. The caller function has been
> in Perl for an extremely long time. You can find it in RHEL 6.9 which uses
> Perl 5.10. I just used it in Perl 5.18.2. So that doesn’t seem like a good
> justification for requiring a minimum version of Perl 5.20.
>
>
>
> I have a feeling that this change is going to bite other people developing
> and using Koha around the world. There are people running Koha on openSUSE,
> Suse Enterprise Linux, Fedora, Red Hat, CentOS… probably other distros as
> well. Are we really going to exclude everyone that doesn’t use recent
> Debian-based distros from using newer versions of Koha?
>
>
>
> It seems to me that this decision was made without community discussion.
> Maybe I’m wrong, but I figured I’d bring it up with everyone.
>
>
>
> For my part, I’m just going to hack around this requirement for now, but I
> don’t really like that as a long-term solution.
>
>
>
> What does everyone else think?
>
>
>
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