[Koha-devel] Why we do not push the ACCTDETAILS email via message queue?

David Cook dcook at prosentient.com.au
Tue Jun 19 02:21:11 CEST 2018


Cheers, Jonathan. I had totally forgotten about that. Yikes.

 

Good call, Chris. While I think many mail servers these days use TLS to secure the email between the mail servers, an unscrupulous administrator could still certainly take advantage of people on either end. The best idea probably is to just not use AutoEmailOpacUser, as Jonathan seems to suggest. 

 

David Cook

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From: Jonathan Druart [mailto:jonathan.druart at bugs.koha-community.org] 
Sent: Tuesday, 19 June 2018 12:07 AM
To: Christopher Nighswonger <chris.nighswonger at gmail.com>
Cc: David Cook <dcook at prosentient.com.au>; Koha Devel <koha-devel at lists.koha-community.org>
Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Why we do not push the ACCTDETAILS email via message queue?

 

It has been reported (by David) on our bug tracker already (20796, security area, which does no longer make sense at it is public now...)

 

For information this notice contains the password in clear for... 10 years now (bug 2149) and the behavior is turned off by default (AutoEmailOpacUser).

 

 

On Mon, 18 Jun 2018 at 10:11 Christopher Nighswonger <chris.nighswonger at gmail.com <mailto:chris.nighswonger at gmail.com> > wrote:

Considering that email is plaintext (AKA "postcard") mail, I'm surprised we would send a user's password in an email in any case.

 

 

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 4:14 AM, David Cook <dcook at prosentient.com.au <mailto:dcook at prosentient.com.au> > wrote:

Considering that the borrower’s password is typically in the ACCTDETAILS email, I think using the message_queue for ACCTDETAILS would be a bad idea and would probably violate the GDPR in Europe.

 

Just imagine looking through your database and seeing all those plain text passwords, especially for people who re-use the same password for everything. I think it would be a security and privacy nightmare.

 

David Cook

Systems Librarian

Prosentient Systems

72/330 Wattle St

Ultimo, NSW 2007

Australia

 

Office: 02 9212 0899 <tel:02%2092%2012%2008%2099> 

Direct: 02 8005 0595 <tel:02%2080%2005%2005%2095> 

 

From: koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org <mailto:koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org>  [mailto:koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org <mailto:koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org> ] On Behalf Of Sophie Meynieux
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Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Why we do not push the ACCTDETAILS email via message queue?

 

Maybe because for this message you're expecting it is sent immediately while message_queue table could be processed more occasionally ? 

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Le 15/06/2018 à 12:40, Indranil Das Gupta a écrit :

Hi all, 

 

I was wondering why we do not push the ACCTDETAILS email via  the message queue.

 

Is it just one of those cases of "as things have always been done" OR there is a reason that I'm missing out?

 

cheers

indranil.


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