[Koha-devel] Koha metapackage for easier installs

Josef Moravec josef.moravec at gmail.com
Wed Oct 14 08:25:26 CEST 2020


Option 4 seems reasonable and is well argumented by David (thanks!) I am
for it too

Josef

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 7:42 AM Renvoize, Martin <
martin.renvoize at ptfs-europe.com> wrote:

> After the conversations, I was pro option 4 myself too.
>
> Well summarised David.
>
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2020, 12:17 am , <dcook at prosentient.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> As we add external dependencies to Koha (e.g. MariaDB, Elasticsearch,
>> RabbitMQ, etc), there are fears that we are making Koha harder to install
>> for less technical users.
>>
>>
>>
>> As a result, Jonathan, Tomas, Martin, Mason, and I have been discussing*
>> creating a Koha metapackage that incudes all of Koha’s external
>> dependencies, so that people can keep installing Koha with a minimum number
>> of steps.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think we’re at a point where we now need to decide on some names for
>> metapackages.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mason has already commented that it would be best to leave the current
>> “koha” and “koha-common” packages as they are and I think that makes sense.
>> While no one uses the “koha” package, I think there is still a dream of one
>> day getting Koha into the upstream Debian repositories with that package
>> name. Likewise, “koha-common” is so common that we had best not change it
>> any time soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are some naming options that have been discussed:
>>
>>
>>
>>    1. Option 1
>>       1. koha-lite (this metapackage installs koha-common)
>>       2. koha-full (this metapackage installs koha-common, MariaDB,
>>       Elasticsearch, RabbitMQ, etc)
>>    2. Option 2
>>       1. koha-full (this metapackage installs koha-common, MariaDB,
>>       Elasticsearch, RabbitMQ, etc)
>>    3. Option 3
>>       1. koha-standalone (this metapackage installs koha-common,
>>       MariaDB, Elasticsearch, RabbitMQ, etc)
>>    4. Option 4 (David’s Preferred Option)
>>       1. koha-core (this metapackage installs koha-common)
>>
>>                                                                i.      I
>> would avoid “koha-lite” as it implies a little application whereas Koha is
>> a large application
>>
>>                                                              ii.      I
>> think that koha-common is currently misnamed as it really is more of a
>> “core” package than a “common” package that is shared among different
>> packages or standalone applications (like postgresql-common being shared
>> between client and server). However, koha-common has legacy value as a
>> name.
>>
>>                                                            iii.      In
>> time, I’d like to see services like the SIP server, Z3950 responder, etc
>> broken out of “koha-core” and put into their own packages. Eventually
>> “koha-common” would just contain a set of core libraries that are shared
>> amongst different Koha services. This would help with scalability,
>> especially when using containers and other forms of modern computing.
>>
>>    1. koha-full (this metapackage installs koha-common, MariaDB,
>>       Elasticsearch, RabbitMQ, etc)
>>
>>                                                                i.      I
>> would avoid “koha-standalone” as I think that it implies a package without
>> dependencies, whereas ours would have several dependencies and be more in
>> line with “koha-full”. This is based on some searches through Debian repos:
>>
>>    1.
>>             https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=-standalone
>>             2.
>>             https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=-full
>>
>>                                                              ii.      In
>> Debian, there is a nginx-full package which installs many components (e.g.
>> nginx-common, libnginx-mod-http-auth-pam, etc) and there is a nginx-core
>> package which installs nginx-common and a small subset of libnginx-*
>> packages
>>
>>
>>
>> I ask that people comment here on the listserv, and ultimately we can
>> conclude that discussion in Bugzilla at
>> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=26672.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>> *based on my comment at
>> https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=22417#c266
>>
>>
>>
>> David Cook
>>
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>>
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