[Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes

[dcook at prosentient.com.au]

Does The Horowhenua Library Trust still exist? It looks like it was dissolved by their local council back in 2016. I tried to find some recent information on it, but I could only see https://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/local-papers/horowhenua-mail/80627473/trust-running-horowhenua-libraries-and-te-takere-to-be-axed-in-a-month

 

https://fyi.org.nz/request/4270-dissolution-of-te-horowhenua-trust

https://www.tetakere.org.nz/About-Us/Our-Story

 

Looks like the Koha trademark in NZ is marked as owned by “Te Horowhenua Trust 2016” (case no 953837). 

 

Ah Joann already covered this in https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/THT_and_Koha. While all the details aren’t there, it looks like a new trust must’ve been created. 

 

I imagine the Koha folk in NZ might have more information?

 

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From: Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org> On Behalf Of Doug Kingston
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Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes

 

I believe that The Horowhenua Library Trust as the non-profit behind koha-community.org <http://koha-community.org>  and trustees of the koha codebase would qualify to enroll as an open-source organization.

 

-Doug-

 

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:06 PM Tomas Cohen Arazi <tomascohen at gmail.com <mailto:tomascohen at gmail.com> > wrote:

Most limitations are about workers quotas. We can still rely on their services and run our own workers? It feels we should try enrolling as an open source organization, it at least see where the process takes us.

 

Worth hearing all opinions!

 

El mié, 25 may 2022 20:55, <dcook at prosentient.com.au <mailto:dcook at prosentient.com.au> > escribió:

Where did you see that quote, Jonathan?

Here’s the relevant two lines I’m seeing:
1.  “Not seeking profit: Your organization must not seek to make a profit through services or by charging for higher tiers. Accepting donations to sustain your efforts is ok. Read more about this requirement here.”
2. “Not seek profit: An organization can accept donations to sustain its work, but it can’t seek to make a profit by selling services, by charging for enhancements or add-ons, or by other means."

In theory, the organisation should be the Koha Community so it might be OK, since it doesn't sell services. That's in contrast to Duraspace/Lyrasis which is the non-profit company that develops DSpace and hosts a lot of its infrastructure; they sell DSpace services. I suppose though only Gitlab can ultimately make that call though?

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That said, overall, I don't know that we need to apply to the Gitlab for Open Source Program though? It might have some benefits but it might be relying too much on a third-party that can change its services on a whim?

David Cook
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Prosentient Systems
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From: Koha-devel <koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org <mailto:koha-devel-bounces at lists.koha-community.org> > On Behalf Of Jonathan Druart
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Subject: Re: [Koha-devel] Gitlab policy changes

I had a look at it a couple of months ago but at some point you have to "certify that project maintainer are not seeking profit from this project by, for example, selling services"... 
Le mer. 25 mai 2022 à 17:51, Tomas Cohen Arazi <mailto:tomascohen at gmail.com <mailto:tomascohen at gmail.com> > a écrit :
Hi, we need to take a look at the upcoming changes and make a decision on enrolling as an Open Source project:

https://about.gitlab.com/blog/2022/02/04/ultimate-perks-for-open-source-projects/

Please read carefully so we can make a decision eventually.

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