From Librarian at hepatitissa.asn.au  Fri Jul  3 08:24:29 2020
From: Librarian at hepatitissa.asn.au (Librarian)
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 06:24:29 +0000
Subject: [Koha-oz] probs with colon in title
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Hi all,
Have found that searches for titles (inc those with subtitles) that contain a colon will always return zero results. Does anyone have any advice about this?


Joy Sims
Librarian,
Hepatitis SA.


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From dcook at prosentient.com.au  Mon Jul  6 01:14:32 2020
From: dcook at prosentient.com.au (dcook at prosentient.com.au)
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 09:14:32 +1000
Subject: [Koha-oz] Koha-oz Digest, Vol 72, Issue 1
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Hi Joy,

What version of Koha are you using? 

Indexing and searching can be a complicated topic. I've been working on Koha for over 8 years, so I'm familiar with troubleshooting the backend systems, but that's likely too challenging to do remotely. 

You could look at Koha's Bugzilla issue tracker. Here's an example that might be relevant for you: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=16930 

Or if you're running a very new and more experimental Koha then possibly this one: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=24372

David Cook
Systems Librarian
Prosentient Systems
72/330 Wattle St
Ultimo, NSW 2007
Australia

Office: 02 9212 0899
Online: 02 8005 0595

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Hi all,
Have found that searches for titles (inc those with subtitles) that contain a colon will always return zero results. Does anyone have any advice about this?


Joy Sims
Librarian,
Hepatitis SA.


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From clopez at dml.vic.edu.au  Tue Jul  7 04:24:10 2020
From: clopez at dml.vic.edu.au (Carlos Lopez)
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2020 02:24:10 +0000
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Hi Joy

We've found that searching without punctuation (and often without diacritics) is best if you can manage it. I don't know whether this is because of some setting in Koha or in the Zebra server. It can be particularly frustrating of you're copying and pasting to search!

With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team

Carlos Lopez

Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052
Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library at dml.vic.edu.au<mailto:library at dml.vic.edu.au> | library.dmlibrary.org.au

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Hi all,
Have found that searches for titles (inc those with subtitles) that contain a colon will always return zero results. Does anyone have any advice about this?


Joy Sims
Librarian,
Hepatitis SA.



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From dcook at prosentient.com.au  Wed Jul  8 05:39:46 2020
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There are a variety of possible indexing setups, so your configuration can be an issue.

Joy, when you make your searches with a colon, I'm guessing that you're doing something like the following: "title: subtitle", is that correct? That will cause problems because the ":" is a special character that separates an index and a search term.

If you do an Advanced Search (especially with phrase searches), this is much less likely to be an issue. 

David Cook
Systems Librarian
Prosentient Systems
72/330 Wattle St
Ultimo, NSW 2007
Australia

Office: 02 9212 0899
Online: 02 8005 0595

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Hi Joy

We've found that searching without punctuation (and often without diacritics) is best if you can manage it. I don't know whether this is because of some setting in Koha or in the Zebra server. It can be particularly frustrating of you're copying and pasting to search!

With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team

Carlos Lopez

Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052
Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library at dml.vic.edu.au<mailto:library at dml.vic.edu.au> | library.dmlibrary.org.au

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Subject: [Koha-oz] probs with colon in title

Hi all,
Have found that searches for titles (inc those with subtitles) that contain a colon will always return zero results. Does anyone have any advice about this?


Joy Sims
Librarian,
Hepatitis SA.


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From dcook at prosentient.com.au  Thu Jul  9 06:06:56 2020
From: dcook at prosentient.com.au (dcook at prosentient.com.au)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 14:06:56 +1000
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Hi Joy and Carlos, 

I was doing some bug tracker maintenance, and I found the issue that you describe with the colon.

The problem is that  the colon in this example search query "title : subtitle" is being converted into an equal sign, so that it becomes "title = subtitle". Koha uses semicolons to separate indexes and search terms, but Zebra uses equal signs for that same purpose. 

In Koha, you might see something like this: "ti:Title" or "au:AuthorName". Koha then converts that to "ti=Title" or "au=AuthorName" for Zebra.

So when Zebra sees "title = subtitle", it generates an error and returns nothing back to Koha. That's why you don't see any search results. 

I've opened this bug report for it: https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=25963

Due to the way search query parsing works in Koha, this is a difficult issue to fix, but it is an issue.

David Cook
Systems Librarian
Prosentient Systems
72/330 Wattle St
Ultimo, NSW 2007
Australia

Office: 02 9212 0899
Online: 02 8005 0595

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Hi Joy

We've found that searching without punctuation (and often without diacritics) is best if you can manage it. I don't know whether this is because of some setting in Koha or in the Zebra server. It can be particularly frustrating of you're copying and pasting to search!

With kind regards from the Dalton McCaughey Library Team

Carlos Lopez

Dalton McCaughey Library | 29 College Crescent, Parkville, VICTORIA 3052
Ph: 03 9340 8888 ext.1 | library at dml.vic.edu.au<mailto:library at dml.vic.edu.au> | library.dmlibrary.org.au

From: Koha-oz <koha-oz-bounces at lists.koha-community.org> On Behalf Of Librarian
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 4:24 PM
To: koha-oz at lists.koha-community.org
Subject: [Koha-oz] probs with colon in title

Hi all,
Have found that searches for titles (inc those with subtitles) that contain a colon will always return zero results. Does anyone have any advice about this?


Joy Sims
Librarian,
Hepatitis SA.


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