[Koha-patches] [PATCH] Replace TMPL_ELSIF with TMPL_ELSE and TMPL_IF in label-manager.tmpl;

[MJ Ray]

"Joe Atzberger" <joe.atzberger at liblime.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:00 PM, MJ Ray <mjr at phonecoop.coop> wrote:
> > I don't see why.  The then-current H:T:P built fine for me too on the
> > same system under 10.4, but fails under 10.5.  The maintainer hasn't
> > yet suggested that it's a local configuration error and it's hard to
> > see how it could be - I've changed very few settings.  It might be a
> > problem with fink or perl on 10.5, but I probably won't be the only
> > user of those versions.
>
> See the *Known Problems* section of the
> perlmacos<http://perldoc.perl.org/5.8.8/perlmacosx.html>perldoc:
>
> If you have installed extra libraries such as GDBM through Fink (in other
> words, you have libraries under */sw/lib*), or libdlcompat to *
> /usr/local/lib*, you may need to be extra careful when running Configure to
> not to confuse Configure and Perl about which libraries to use.
>
> Sounds like a likely vector.

I've not run Configure TTBOMK - isn't that part of the perl build
process?  I believe perl on that system is stock Apple Perl, installed
before fink, but I'll now take this up with the server's sysadmin.  It
wasn't clear to me from that perlmacos page whether this is a known
problem with 10.5 Apple Perl.

> [...]  You can feel as abandoned as you want to, but none of this is Koha's
> problem.  In reality you have had very responsive and detailed interaction
> with many of us on this issue, all of it coming down to debugging your local
> config.
>
> And yet you act like the Koha community should do your job for you, or wait
> until you can figure it out.  Yeah.  Good luck with that.

This lack of empathy is what I was referring to!  When there is help,
it's often been accompanied by this "none of this is Koha's problem"
attitude and an inflexibility.  The debugging offered has been mostly
redundant (like confirmation it worked on 10.4) or misleading (like
blaming HTML::Template::Expr which is no longer used) and while I
thank everyone who tried, it wasn't what was actually asked of the
Koha developers, which was to hold off TMPL_ELSIF in 3.0.

I'm not asking people to do our job for us, just give requests a fair
hearing and avoid making our job harder.  Look at where we are: caught
between a koha.org feature use problem, a H:T:P build problem and an
Apple installation problem.  I thought we'd get best cooperation from
koha.org - but at least git means we can keep our own 3.0-releng
branch for MacOS X 10.5 for now, even if all this is increasing our
costs immensely and making software.coop's koha experience worse.

Hope that explains,
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