From tajoli at cilea.it  Thu Apr  7 10:57:45 2011
From: tajoli at cilea.it (Zeno Tajoli)
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:57:45 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] 3.2.7 Early Release Notice
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik=Q8aTs6CiyC3Egr2x09ubm_+qv4ONto56+4Od@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik=Q8aTs6CiyC3Egr2x09ubm_+qv4ONto56+4Od@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4D9D7C89.2030006@cilea.it>

Hi to all,

Il 29/03/2011 05:33, Chris Nighswonger ha scritto:

> April is a big month with the forthcoming major release of Koha 3.4.0. So in
> order to yield the stage to the 3.4.0 release, the 3.2.7 release will take
> place one week earlier than our normal schedule on 15 April 2011. This puts
> 3.2.x into string freeze on 8 April 2011.

so the last day to insert new .po files for 3.2.7 on
http://translate.koha-community.org is 13/04/2011 ?

Bye
Zeno Tajoli
-- 
Dott. Zeno Tajoli
tajoliAT_SPAM_no_prendiATcilea.it
fax +39 02 2135520
CILEA - Consorzio Interuniversitario
http://www.cilea.it/disclaimer

From cnighswonger at foundations.edu  Thu Apr  7 13:52:26 2011
From: cnighswonger at foundations.edu (Chris Nighswonger)
Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 07:52:26 -0400
Subject: [Koha-translate] 3.2.7 Early Release Notice
In-Reply-To: <4D9D7C89.2030006@cilea.it>
References: <AANLkTik=Q8aTs6CiyC3Egr2x09ubm_+qv4ONto56+4Od@mail.gmail.com>
	<4D9D7C89.2030006@cilea.it>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinG-anjKLMvVcpBu3eMMgbcGVExDg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 4:57 AM, Zeno Tajoli <tajoli at cilea.it> wrote:

> Hi to all,
>
> Il 29/03/2011 05:33, Chris Nighswonger ha scritto:
>
> > April is a big month with the forthcoming major release of Koha 3.4.0. So
> in
> > order to yield the stage to the 3.4.0 release, the 3.2.7 release will
> take
> > place one week earlier than our normal schedule on 15 April 2011. This
> puts
> > 3.2.x into string freeze on 8 April 2011.
>
> so the last day to insert new .po files for 3.2.7 on
> http://translate.koha-community.org is 13/04/2011 ?
>

That is correct.

Kind Regards,
Chris
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Message-ID: <BANLkTik6uBffx6BB8oG7VwThkVU5akc=5A@mail.gmail.com>

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From f.demians at tamil.fr  Tue Apr 12 12:24:49 2011
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_DEMIANS?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:24:49 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
Message-ID: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>

Hi,

Koha translation web site :

   http://translate.koha-community.org

has been update with strings to be translated for Koha upcoming 3.4
version.

You can start translating!

Thanks.
-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.htm

From lars at helbo.org  Tue Apr 12 12:26:44 2011
From: lars at helbo.org (Lars J. Helbo)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:26:44 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
In-Reply-To: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>
References: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>
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From f.demians at tamil.fr  Tue Apr 12 12:44:37 2011
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_DEMIANS?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:44:37 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
In-Reply-To: <4DA428E4.2090606@helbo.org>
References: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr> <4DA428E4.2090606@helbo.org>
Message-ID: <4DA42D15.2070308@tamil.fr>


> Danish 3.4 is missing ?

Yes, this is correct. I fix it. Thanks for your carefulness.

-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html

From magnus at enger.priv.no  Tue Apr 12 12:44:27 2011
From: magnus at enger.priv.no (Magnus Enger)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:44:27 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
In-Reply-To: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>
References: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikHpzacMJ0izEGMcR0KQdsj=RPLig@mail.gmail.com>

2011/4/12 Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>:
> You can start translating!

The staff file for "Norsk, nynorsk" seems to be missing?
http://translate.koha-community.org/nn/34/

Best regards,
Magnus Enger
libriotech.no

From f.demians at tamil.fr  Tue Apr 12 12:55:37 2011
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_DEMIANS?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:55:37 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikHpzacMJ0izEGMcR0KQdsj=RPLig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>
	<BANLkTikHpzacMJ0izEGMcR0KQdsj=RPLig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DA42FA9.1020609@tamil.fr>


> The staff file for "Norsk, nynorsk" seems to be missing?
> http://translate.koha-community.org/nn/34/

Done!

-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html

From bgkriegel at gmail.com  Tue Apr 12 13:12:05 2011
From: bgkriegel at gmail.com (Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:12:05 -0300
Subject: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
In-Reply-To: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>
References: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=1mJtuh6v0KXf6tVvbhHWnHjuJaQ@mail.gmail.com>

The filenames are the same as in Koha 3.2.

Should not be different from the old ones? like xx-YY-i-opac-t-prog-v-3004
000.po?

-- 
Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel
bgkriegel at gmail.com



2011/4/12 Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>

> Hi,
>
> Koha translation web site :
>
>  http://translate.koha-community.org
>
> has been update with strings to be translated for Koha upcoming 3.4
> version.
>
> You can start translating!
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
> http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.htm
> _______________________________________________
> Koha-translate mailing list
> Koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-translate
> website: www.koha-community.org
> git: git.koha-community.org
> bugs: bugs.koha-community.org
>
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From f.demians at tamil.fr  Tue Apr 12 13:21:35 2011
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?UTF-8?B?RnLDqWTDqXJpYyBERU1JQU5T?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:21:35 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=1mJtuh6v0KXf6tVvbhHWnHjuJaQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>
	<BANLkTi=1mJtuh6v0KXf6tVvbhHWnHjuJaQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DA435BF.7000201@tamil.fr>

 > The filenames are the same as in Koha 3.2.  Should not be different
 > from the old ones? like xx-YY-i-opac-t-prog-v-3004000.po?

Chris Cormack, 3.4 Release Manager, plans to rename .po files before
releasing. And so we may finish with .po file names without any version
indication. Something like:

   xx-YY-opac.po
   xx-YY-staff.po
   xx-YY-pref.po

Thanks.
-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html


From bgkriegel at gmail.com  Tue Apr 12 16:50:51 2011
From: bgkriegel at gmail.com (Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:50:51 -0300
Subject: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
In-Reply-To: <4DA435BF.7000201@tamil.fr>
References: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>
	<BANLkTi=1mJtuh6v0KXf6tVvbhHWnHjuJaQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<4DA435BF.7000201@tamil.fr>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikor4EdtqepvB4i+AhbVEfUjbGOiw@mail.gmail.com>

Two questions for 3.4 translation

1) There are some entries not in english. For example 7672 on staff file,
any language, that reads "a Analytt til ikke-periodisk dokument". I suppose
that this is Danish, I'm not sure. Maybe I could translate it, but again I'm
not sure.

Is it possible to have this text in english, or simply do our best?

2) The previous example is a string in the file
intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/nonmarc_leader.tmpl
(lines
126 and 128), but... current (today) master don't have this file, it
has intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/nonmarc_leader.
tt

The PO files could be used to translate ".tt" files instead of ".tmpl"?

-- 
Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel
bgkriegel at gmail.com



2011/4/12 Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>

> > The filenames are the same as in Koha 3.2.  Should not be different
> > from the old ones? like xx-YY-i-opac-t-prog-v-3004000.po?
>
> Chris Cormack, 3.4 Release Manager, plans to rename .po files before
> releasing. And so we may finish with .po file names without any version
> indication. Something like:
>
>  xx-YY-opac.po
>  xx-YY-staff.po
>  xx-YY-pref.po
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
> http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html
>
>
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From f.demians at tamil.fr  Tue Apr 12 17:18:43 2011
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?UTF-8?B?RnLDqWTDqXJpYyBERU1JQU5T?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:18:43 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikor4EdtqepvB4i+AhbVEfUjbGOiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4DA42871.108@tamil.fr>	<BANLkTi=1mJtuh6v0KXf6tVvbhHWnHjuJaQ@mail.gmail.com>	<4DA435BF.7000201@tamil.fr>
	<BANLkTikor4EdtqepvB4i+AhbVEfUjbGOiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DA46D53.5030501@tamil.fr>

 > 1) There are some entries not in english. For example 7672 on staff
 > file, any language, that reads "a Analytt til ikke-periodisk
 > dokument". I suppose that this is Danish, I'm not sure. Maybe I could
 > translate it, but again I'm not sure.

That must come from NORMARC files. You can just ignore those strings.
You have similar string in French for few UNIMARC cataloging plugins.

 > 2) The previous example is a string in the file
 > 
intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/nonmarc_leader.tmpl
 > (lines 126 and 128), but... current (today) master don't have this
 > file, it has
 > intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/nonmarc_leader.tt

 > The PO files could be used to translate ".tt" files instead of ".tmpl"?

Yes, there is no problem. The string comment is wrong (mention to .tmpl
file) but the string id is valid and will allow TT files translation.

Thanks.
-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html


From massoud at kwareict.com  Tue Apr 12 19:14:40 2011
From: massoud at kwareict.com (massoud alshareef)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 22:44:40 +0530
Subject: [Koha-translate] Koha translation web site
Message-ID: <BANLkTinQVyK7RkzKdNiJ9btsO7AFN_G0NQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello there,

Koha translation web site <http://translate.koha-community.org> shows that
Arabic translation is way far from reaching completion. Down here, not far
away from where the Crazy-ass Ghaddafi is enjoying killing his own people,
we do not agree! As for Koha 3.2.6 we believe that Arabic Koha documentation
and OPAC/ Staff clients UI are complete, and fully in Arabic use today.

We have tried to convert the Arabic Koha docs to DocBook, the standard
online format for Koha 3.2, before submission but faced technical issues
with Arabic Right-to-Left display orientation with all tools available for
DocBook, so we decide to hold submission of the documentation until we
figure out another way for proper Arabic doc display.

A few days ago I ran into a great tool for document wiki collaboration. It
is called Confluence<http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/tour/?gclid=CN7t1ZO3l6gCFY0jfAod4j6DHw>
from
Altassian. It provides an Open Source software
license<http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/opensource-license-request.jsp>when
used with OSS products like Koha. The latest DSpace
1.7.1 documentation<https://wiki.duraspace.org/display/DSDOC/DSpace+Documentation>,
released last month, has its documentation built on Confluence.

I strongly believe that the Confluence tool option for managing Koha
documentation worths  visiting by Koha documentation/ translation team. With
its great collaboration features along with the source code available for
localization volunteers, I think Confluence will expand the possibilities
wide open for Koha supporting multiple language with accountability.

Thanks
Massoud M. AlShareef,

The world of achievement has always belonged to the optimist!

KnowledgeWare Technologies
(P.O. Box 230-312)
Riyadh 11321, Saudi Arabia
Cel: +966 505 307 267
massoud at kwareict.com


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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:24:49 +0200
> From: Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>
> Subject: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
> To: Koha-org - Translate list
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> Message-ID: <4DA42871.108 at tamil.fr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi,
>
> Koha translation web site :
>
>   http://translate.koha-community.org
>
> has been update with strings to be translated for Koha upcoming 3.4
> version.
>
> You can start translating!
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
> http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.htm
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:26:44 +0200
> From: "Lars J. Helbo" <lars at helbo.org>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
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> From: Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
> To: "Lars J. Helbo" <lars at helbo.org>
> Cc: koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> Message-ID: <4DA42D15.2070308 at tamil.fr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
> > Danish 3.4 is missing ?
>
> Yes, this is correct. I fix it. Thanks for your carefulness.
>
> --
> Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
> http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:44:27 +0200
> From: Magnus Enger <magnus at enger.priv.no>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
> To: Koha-org - Translate list
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> Message-ID: <BANLkTikHpzacMJ0izEGMcR0KQdsj=RPLig at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> 2011/4/12 Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>:
> > You can start translating!
>
> The staff file for "Norsk, nynorsk" seems to be missing?
> http://translate.koha-community.org/nn/34/
>
> Best regards,
> Magnus Enger
> libriotech.no
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:55:37 +0200
> From: Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
> To: Magnus Enger <magnus at enger.priv.no>
> Cc: Koha-org - Translate list
>        <koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org>
> Message-ID: <4DA42FA9.1020609 at tamil.fr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
> > The staff file for "Norsk, nynorsk" seems to be missing?
> > http://translate.koha-community.org/nn/34/
>
> Done!
>
> --
> Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
> http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 08:12:05 -0300
> From: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <bgkriegel at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
> To: Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>
> Cc: Koha-org - Translate list
>        <koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org>
> Message-ID: <BANLkTi=1mJtuh6v0KXf6tVvbhHWnHjuJaQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> The filenames are the same as in Koha 3.2.
>
> Should not be different from the old ones? like xx-YY-i-opac-t-prog-v-3004
> 000.po?
>
> --
> Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel
> bgkriegel at gmail.com
>
>
>
> 2011/4/12 Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Koha translation web site :
> >
> >  http://translate.koha-community.org
> >
> > has been update with strings to be translated for Koha upcoming 3.4
> > version.
> >
> > You can start translating!
> >
> > Thanks.
> > --
> > Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
> > http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.htm
> > _______________________________________________
> > Koha-translate mailing list
> > Koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> > http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-translate
> > website: www.koha-community.org
> > git: git.koha-community.org
> > bugs: bugs.koha-community.org
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> From: Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
> To: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <bgkriegel at gmail.com>
> Cc: Koha-org - Translate list
>        <koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org>
> Message-ID: <4DA435BF.7000201 at tamil.fr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>  > The filenames are the same as in Koha 3.2.  Should not be different
>  > from the old ones? like xx-YY-i-opac-t-prog-v-3004000.po?
>
> Chris Cormack, 3.4 Release Manager, plans to rename .po files before
> releasing. And so we may finish with .po file names without any version
> indication. Something like:
>
>   xx-YY-opac.po
>   xx-YY-staff.po
>   xx-YY-pref.po
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
> http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:50:51 -0300
> From: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <bgkriegel at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
> To: Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>
> Cc: Koha-org - Translate list
>        <koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org>
> Message-ID: <BANLkTikor4EdtqepvB4i+AhbVEfUjbGOiw at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Two questions for 3.4 translation
>
> 1) There are some entries not in english. For example 7672 on staff file,
> any language, that reads "a Analytt til ikke-periodisk dokument". I suppose
> that this is Danish, I'm not sure. Maybe I could translate it, but again
> I'm
> not sure.
>
> Is it possible to have this text in english, or simply do our best?
>
> 2) The previous example is a string in the file
> intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/nonmarc_leader.tmpl
> (lines
> 126 and 128), but... current (today) master don't have this file, it
> has intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/nonmarc_leader.
> tt
>
> The PO files could be used to translate ".tt" files instead of ".tmpl"?
>
> --
> Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel
> bgkriegel at gmail.com
>
>
>
> 2011/4/12 Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>
>
> > > The filenames are the same as in Koha 3.2.  Should not be different
> > > from the old ones? like xx-YY-i-opac-t-prog-v-3004000.po?
> >
> > Chris Cormack, 3.4 Release Manager, plans to rename .po files before
> > releasing. And so we may finish with .po file names without any version
> > indication. Something like:
> >
> >  xx-YY-opac.po
> >  xx-YY-staff.po
> >  xx-YY-pref.po
> >
> > Thanks.
> > --
> > Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
> > http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html
> >
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> Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:18:43 +0200
> From: Fr?d?ric DEMIANS <f.demians at tamil.fr>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Version 3.4
> To: Bernardo Gonzalez Kriegel <bgkriegel at gmail.com>
> Cc: Koha-org - Translate list
>        <koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org>
> Message-ID: <4DA46D53.5030501 at tamil.fr>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
>  > 1) There are some entries not in english. For example 7672 on staff
>  > file, any language, that reads "a Analytt til ikke-periodisk
>  > dokument". I suppose that this is Danish, I'm not sure. Maybe I could
>  > translate it, but again I'm not sure.
>
> That must come from NORMARC files. You can just ignore those strings.
> You have similar string in French for few UNIMARC cataloging plugins.
>
>  > 2) The previous example is a string in the file
>  >
> intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/nonmarc_leader.tmpl
>  > (lines 126 and 128), but... current (today) master don't have this
>  > file, it has
>  > intranet-tmpl/prog/en/modules/cataloguing/value_builder/
> nonmarc_leader.tt
>
>  > The PO files could be used to translate ".tt" files instead of ".tmpl"?
>
> Yes, there is no problem. The string comment is wrong (mention to .tmpl
> file) but the string id is valid and will allow TT files translation.
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
> http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Koha-translate mailing list
> Koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-translate
> website: www.koha-community.org
> git: git.koha-community.org
> bugs: bugs.koha-community.org
>
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From jobdrb at gmail.com  Wed Apr 13 07:00:00 2011
From: jobdrb at gmail.com (Job)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:00:00 -0300
Subject: [Koha-translate] Account Problem
Message-ID: <BANLkTikg30FVyHza2wg-bURnOzcnynR8vw@mail.gmail.com>

Last year, I start to help the Koha Translation for Portuguese - BR.
I did some work and publish, unfortunately I got an  Repetitive Strain
Injuries in my arm,
and I could not stay working on.

Now I return to work, but when  I try to Login in Koha Pootle, I discover
that my account disappear,
with that all contributions history, rights etc.

I make another account, but.

Can someone explain me what happens to my old account?

Thanks

Job Di?genes Ribeiro Borges.
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From f.demians at tamil.fr  Wed Apr 13 07:48:09 2011
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_DEMIANS?=)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 07:48:09 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Account Problem
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikg30FVyHza2wg-bURnOzcnynR8vw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BANLkTikg30FVyHza2wg-bURnOzcnynR8vw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DA53919.6070305@tamil.fr>

 > Can someone explain me what happens to my old account?

A new translation web site has been set up last December. All accounts
had to be recreated and history had been lost in the process.

Regards,
-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html


From mjr at phonecoop.coop  Wed Apr 13 12:09:58 2011
From: mjr at phonecoop.coop (MJ Ray)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:09:58 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [Koha-translate] Koha translation web site
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinQVyK7RkzKdNiJ9btsO7AFN_G0NQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20110413100958.6A435FA146@nail.towers.org.uk>

massoud alshareef wrote:
> A few days ago I ran into a great tool for document wiki collaboration. It
> is called Confluence<http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/tour/?gclid=CN7t1ZO3l6gCFY0jfAod4j6DHw>
> from
> Altassian. It provides an Open Source software
> license<http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/opensource-license-request.jsp>when
> used with OSS products like Koha. [...]

Confluence is a terrible tool and its marketing seems to have mislead
you, because that is not an Open Source software licence.  It is a
cost-free proprietary licence they grant if you use Confluence to work
on Free and Open Source Software (FOSS).  They give you a licence and
seem to add adverts to the bottom of every page, which I guess helps
to promote their non-FOSS product to FOSS users.

Also, by using Confluence, you are locking out potential collaborators
who care about freedom and helping Atlassian Pty Ltd to replace open
project communities.  Please, I beg you to move your work to a FOSS
wiki as soon as reasonably possible.

Hope that explains,
-- 
MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
http://koha-community.org supporter, web and LMS developer, statistician.
In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
Available for hire for Koha work http://www.software.coop/products/koha

From tajoli at cilea.it  Thu Apr 14 10:00:58 2011
From: tajoli at cilea.it (Zeno Tajoli)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 10:00:58 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Why not TemplateToolkit files only in  3.4 ?
Message-ID: <4DA6A9BA.5030604@cilea.it>

Hi To all,


I'm reading the .po files for 3.4
In fact the strings are still connect to .tmpl files.

But now the master version of Koha, the future 3.4, use .tt files.
So why we don't switch to the new files ?

In fact we will use .tt files in Koha 3.4, not the old .tmpl files.

Bye
Zeno Tajoli
-- 
Dott. Zeno Tajoli
tajoliAT_SPAM_no_prendiATcilea.it
fax +39 02 2135520
CILEA - Consorzio Interuniversitario
http://www.cilea.it/disclaimer

From chris at bigballofwax.co.nz  Thu Apr 14 09:58:39 2011
From: chris at bigballofwax.co.nz (Chris Cormack)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 19:58:39 +1200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Why not TemplateToolkit files only in 3.4 ?
In-Reply-To: <4DA6A9BA.5030604@cilea.it>
References: <4DA6A9BA.5030604@cilea.it>
Message-ID: <BANLkTin26v9hwZ6pOx8fPD9S4G82-d=6UA@mail.gmail.com>

On 14 April 2011 20:00, Zeno Tajoli <tajoli at cilea.it> wrote:
> Hi To all,
>
>
> I'm reading the .po files for 3.4
> In fact the strings are still connect to .tmpl files.

The comments in the .po files don't matter Zeno. It is only the msgid
and msgstr that matter.
>
> But now the master version of Koha, the future 3.4, use .tt files.
> So why we don't switch to the new files ?

There is no need, these files were generated from the templates just
before the switch and work fine with the .tt templates.

Don't let the comments in the .po file confuse you, they dont actually
matter at all. If they did, all the german ones would end up in
katrins directory :)

So keep translating, the .po files work fine with the .tt file.

Chris

From chris at bigballofwax.co.nz  Thu Apr 14 10:08:28 2011
From: chris at bigballofwax.co.nz (Chris Cormack)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:08:28 +1200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Why not TemplateToolkit files only in 3.4 ?
In-Reply-To: <4DA6A9BA.5030604@cilea.it>
References: <4DA6A9BA.5030604@cilea.it>
Message-ID: <BANLkTik2fvM6jx6M83Sz27CR6tqH-DOyTw@mail.gmail.com>

On 14 April 2011 20:00, Zeno Tajoli <tajoli at cilea.it> wrote:
> Hi To all,
>
>
> I'm reading the .po files for 3.4
> In fact the strings are still connect to .tmpl files.

If you want to try updating them,
you can run translate update and see if that makes a better version.

Chris

From chris at bigballofwax.co.nz  Thu Apr 14 10:26:12 2011
From: chris at bigballofwax.co.nz (Chris Cormack)
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:26:12 +1200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Why not TemplateToolkit files only in 3.4 ?
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTik2fvM6jx6M83Sz27CR6tqH-DOyTw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4DA6A9BA.5030604@cilea.it>
	<BANLkTik2fvM6jx6M83Sz27CR6tqH-DOyTw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BANLkTike4AWbaPzY+OjmnhK3W6ZngdtOCw@mail.gmail.com>

On 14 April 2011 20:08, Chris Cormack <chris at bigballofwax.co.nz> wrote:
> On 14 April 2011 20:00, Zeno Tajoli <tajoli at cilea.it> wrote:
>> Hi To all,
>>
>>
>> I'm reading the .po files for 3.4
>> In fact the strings are still connect to .tmpl files.
>
> If you want to try updating them,
> you can run translate update and see if that makes a better version.
>
Make sure you update from master first, I have made some changes that
make the update/create work better

Chris

From massoud at kwareict.com  Fri Apr 15 16:42:21 2011
From: massoud at kwareict.com (massoud alshareef)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:12:21 +0530
Subject: [Koha-translate] Koha-translate Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1302775203.7233.koha-translate@lists.koha-community.org>
References: <mailman.3.1302775203.7233.koha-translate@lists.koha-community.org>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=PbTeKOMG0cBz-x=vAWPC8BVUidw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Ray for sharing your thoughts about the Confluence issue. Sorry,
but I felt like my suggestion was offending to the OSS notion, as it seems
to preach for a non OSS product in the wrong territory. My apology if I did.
I will be extra careful next time before suggesting anything.

My suggestion was based on the fact that the latest releases of DSpace and
Fedora Commons, both of which are OSS like Koha, are using Confluence for
managing and publishing their documentation. I understand now the marketing
notion that Altassian is trying to reach new clients through non-profit
organizations. However, were DSpace and Fedora communities mislead as well
or they are using a different business model than Koha ?

Handling R2L orientation with Koha UI required quite some work at all
screens, and extending such work to the documentation interface became
essential for the Arabic users. This is why I thought it will be awesome if
we collectively localize a documentation product, like Confluence if it fits
the profile, at the source code level to handle such R2L requirements.

Anyway, we will move our Arabization work for Koha (POs and PDFs for
documentation) very soon to a Koha wiki location. We may need help from you
to complete the movement.

Thanks
Massoud M. AlShareef,

----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:09:58 +0100 (BST)
> From: MJ Ray <mjr at phonecoop.coop>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Koha translation web site
> To: koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org, ayousef at kwareict.com,
>        amaher at kwareict.com
> Message-ID: <20110413100958.6A435FA146 at nail.towers.org.uk>
>
> massoud alshareef wrote:
> > A few days ago I ran into a great tool for document wiki collaboration.
> It
> > is called Confluence<
> http://www.atlassian.com/software/confluence/tour/?gclid=CN7t1ZO3l6gCFY0jfAod4j6DHw
> >
> > from
> > Altassian. It provides an Open Source software
> > license<
> http://www.atlassian.com/software/views/opensource-license-request.jsp
> >when
> > used with OSS products like Koha. [...]
>
> Confluence is a terrible tool and its marketing seems to have mislead
> you, because that is not an Open Source software licence.  It is a
> cost-free proprietary licence they grant if you use Confluence to work
> on Free and Open Source Software (FOSS).  They give you a licence and
> seem to add adverts to the bottom of every page, which I guess helps
> to promote their non-FOSS product to FOSS users.
>
> Also, by using Confluence, you are locking out potential collaborators
> who care about freedom and helping Atlassian Pty Ltd to replace open
> project communities.  Please, I beg you to move your work to a FOSS
> wiki as soon as reasonably possible.
>
> Hope that explains,
> --
> MJ Ray (slef), member of www.software.coop, a for-more-than-profit co-op.
> http://koha-community.org supporter, web and LMS developer, statistician.
> In My Opinion Only: see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html
> Available for hire for Koha work http://www.software.coop/products/koha
>
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From f.demians at tamil.fr  Fri Apr 15 16:58:41 2011
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_DEMIANS?=)
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:58:41 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Koha-translate Digest, Vol 54, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTi=PbTeKOMG0cBz-x=vAWPC8BVUidw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.3.1302775203.7233.koha-translate@lists.koha-community.org>
	<BANLkTi=PbTeKOMG0cBz-x=vAWPC8BVUidw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4DA85D21.30300@tamil.fr>

 > Anyway, we will move our Arabization work for Koha (POs and PDFs for
 > documentation) very soon to a Koha wiki location. We may need help
 > from you to complete the movement.

Thank you very much. Koha translation effort into Arabic begins to be
outdated. You contribution will be very appreciated.

You can use directly Koha wiki:

   http://wiki.koha-community.org

What Koha version are your .po files based on? If you send me those
files, I could upload them into Koha community translation platform:

   http://translate.koha-community.org

Thanks.
-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html


From cnighswonger at foundations.edu  Sat Apr 16 17:34:19 2011
From: cnighswonger at foundations.edu (Chris Nighswonger)
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 11:34:19 -0400
Subject: [Koha-translate] 3.2.x Roadmap Update
Message-ID: <BANLkTimq-oQPnTOFzGEdV25judHM5=X93g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

With the release of 3.2.7 and the eminent release of 3.4.0, I want to let
the community know what my plans are moving forward.

Due to the excellent work during the recent hack-fest sponsored by Biblibre,
there were a multitude of bugfixes which did not make it into 3.2.7. My
plans are to begin work on getting these backported into the 3.2.x branch
over the next week or so. Because there are such a large number, I will be
releasing 3.2.8 on May 15, 2011. I had originally intended to go to a
bi-monthly release schedule for 3.2.x after the release of 3.2.0. This will
still be the case, but will be delayed until the release of 3.2.8.
Subsequent 3.2.x releases will take place on the 15th of the month with
3.4.x releases taking place on the 22nd of the month.

***Translators please take especial note of the above dates.***

As long as there are commits to backport to 3.2.x, I will release on a
bi-monthly schedule. If there are no commits during a two month period, no
release will be made.

If you have template related bugfixes you want included in 3.2.x, it will be
your responsibility to ensure that they apply correctly to the current 3.2.x
branch. With the switch to TT in master, backporting template commits will
be nigh impossible. Of course any related underlying logic changes should be
applicable to the current 3.2.x branch as well.

After the 3.2.10 release, I will add an agenda item for the next monthly IRC
to discuss EOL of the 3.2.x branch. The results of that discussion will
determine the direction of 3.2.x from that point forward.

I plan to handle 3.4.x maintenance in the same fashion as I have handled
3.2.x. If anyone has any suggestions for improvement, please speak up! I'm
very open to suggestions, critiques, etc.

Thanks to everyone for the hard work being put into Koha lately. Things have
moved along at a fantastic rate! Keep up the good work.

Kind Regards,
Chris Nighswonger
Koha 3.2.x/3.4.x Release Maintainer
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From karenmyers1 at hotmail.com  Mon Apr 18 08:49:35 2011
From: karenmyers1 at hotmail.com (Karen Myers)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 06:49:35 +0000
Subject: [Koha-translate] 3.2.x Roadmap Update
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1303034401.20315.koha-translate@lists.koha-community.org>
References: <mailman.1.1303034401.20315.koha-translate@lists.koha-community.org>
Message-ID: <SNT117-W648D9D152C70D3B3D8DD17FD910@phx.gbl>


Hi all

regarding the release of the updated versions, what percentage of a translation has to be complete before
it will be included in the release? I seem to recall it was previously 50%? Is that still the case?

Karen
 		 	   		  
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From M.de.Rooy at rijksmuseum.nl  Thu Apr 28 14:10:25 2011
From: M.de.Rooy at rijksmuseum.nl (Marcel de Rooy)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 12:10:25 +0000
Subject: [Koha-translate] Translation bug 6278 (XSLT subfield select pars)
Message-ID: <809BE39CD64BFD4EB9036172EBCCFA3124A7B4@S-MAIL-1B.rijksmuseum.intra>

If your translation file translates the English word "at", please check your XSLT files. See problem below.





English XSLT contains constructs as:
<xsl:call-template name="subfieldSelect">
<xsl:with-param name="codes">at</xsl:with-param>
</xsl:call-template>



The translated Dutch XSLT contains:
<xsl:call-template name="subfieldSelect">
<xsl:with-param name="codes">bij</xsl:with-param>
</xsl:call-template>



Since at is not a word here, but just two subfields a and t, they should not have been translated of course. Incidentally, bij is the Dutch translation of the English at. The word gets translated and so subfields a and t are replaced by b, i and j. In most cases resulting in no information.

Note: Occurs 5 times in MARC21slim2OPACDetail.xsl. And affects display of fields 490/8XX, 773, 780/785.
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From f.demians at tamil.fr  Thu Apr 28 19:28:12 2011
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_DEMIANS?=)
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 19:28:12 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] [Koha-devel] Translation bug 6278 (XSLT
	subfield select pars)
In-Reply-To: <809BE39CD64BFD4EB9036172EBCCFA3124A7E3@S-MAIL-1B.rijksmuseum.intra>
References: <809BE39CD64BFD4EB9036172EBCCFA3124A7B4@S-MAIL-1B.rijksmuseum.intra>
	<809BE39CD64BFD4EB9036172EBCCFA3124A7E3@S-MAIL-1B.rijksmuseum.intra>
Message-ID: <4DB9A3AC.2010703@tamil.fr>

 > Since at is not a word here, but just two subfields a and t, they
 > should not have been translated of course. Incidentally, bij is the
 > Dutch translation of the English at. The word gets translated and so
 > subfields a and t are replaced by b, i and j. In most cases resulting
 > in no information.

That's why the context (the comment for translator) is so important. A
translator, knowing that 'at' comes from a .xsl file should suspect that
it isn't a isolate word but a parameter, and taking a look at the XSL
file he could see that the text comes from a XSLT template parameter.

I agree that at the first place, there is something wrong in our XSL
file strings extractor. There are also shortcomings in the other file
types strings extractors. The .po files are huge for some of those
reasons. We can discuss how to improve Koha localization/translation
process. The goal could be to: simplify translators work, improve string
extraction, improve Koha 'localizability', reduce .po files size.

For XSL files, we could (1) explicitly mark text to be translated or
(2) pick them up from an external XML file (performance warning).

Regards,
-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html


From jolin3apa at gmail.com  Sat Apr 30 19:07:56 2011
From: jolin3apa at gmail.com (Jonathan Lin)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:07:56 -0700
Subject: [Koha-translate] Japanese
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=YEQ+STMjr7FjgahqDQKF=qYu1Ow@mail.gmail.com>

Could we have Japanese translation files for 3.4.
Thank you.
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