From karamqubsi at gmail.com  Tue May  1 09:21:16 2012
From: karamqubsi at gmail.com (Karam Qubsi)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 10:21:16 +0300
Subject: [Koha-translate] [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
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Hi Mason,
this is not clear for me , can you give us more explanation ?
the po files contains strings (not) css codes so where we have to put
this codes ?

I almost done in make koha from right to left (by changing the css
templates manually ) and it's seems to be OK when it finish .

it's not just about the direction of the text all the site must be
right to left ( some images must be changed like the directions of
some arrows when browsing a Shelve )

so i wish you explain more to us about your idea it may make it more
easy to us ,
in the links you provide they are talking about Pootle in general , i
wish some one tell us if this available for koha too .

thanks a lot.


where I have to put the lang

On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Mason James <mtj at kohaaloha.com> wrote:
>
> On 2012-05-1, at 9:36 AM, Karam Qubsi wrote:
>
>> Hi Sam,
>> I think that we can create a css templates that support all the rtl
>> languages and let the user select what he prefer
>> if his language is ltr he will select the default one , or he will
>> select the second choice rtl to support his language, but each
>> language must be translated to be supported , our group is from the
>> Arab world and we are working to make koha in Arabic we are working
>> here ?:
>> translate.koha-community.org/ar/36/
>>
>> you can ask to open a Persian translation project and start
>> translating , and when finishing you may find it easier if you find
>> koha support the style from right to left :)
>
>
> oops - i now see you have discovered the 'right-to-left' translate option for pootle, already :)
>
>
>> and koha 3.8 know is fully supported in search and retrieve for
>> non-Latin languages .
>>
>> I hope you will find the best way to start your ?Persian project :)
>>
>> kind regards
>> Karam Qubsi
>>
>>
>



-- 
Karam Qubsi
Koha Arab translation Team
http:koha.wikibrary.org
Wikibrary for Arab librarians
http://wikibrary.org

From f.demians at tamil.fr  Wed May  2 07:55:57 2012
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Demians?=)
Date: Wed, 02 May 2012 07:55:57 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Translating Arabic OPAC 3.6 is complete ,
 what about 3.8 ?
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Message-ID: <4FA0CC6D.4000302@tamil.fr>

Hi Karam,

 > Now, you will have to wait I update your translation files. It will be
 > done next week. I'm in vacation this week.

I've just updated Pootle Arabic Koha 3.8 translation project. You will
find all new/updated strings for Koha 3.8 version. You will see that
even for OPAC file, you have a lot of fuzzy strings. It always happens
when upgrading from one version to the next. Most of the time, you just
have to validate fuzzy strings, but you need to stay vigilant, and not
validate fuzzy strings which have to be updated by translator.

Kind regards,
-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html

From magnus at enger.priv.no  Thu May  3 08:26:21 2012
From: magnus at enger.priv.no (Magnus Enger)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:26:21 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Update for nb-NO?
Message-ID: <CABg6UYEqKFdvpvkVis-wMHK848abqNZ2hGFfe-szwX8w5xyPNw@mail.gmail.com>

Hiya!

I managed to translate all of nb-NO for the 3.8 deadline, *except*
most of the help pages. I might be able to do a few of them
occasionally now, though. If I remember correctly, a lot of changes to
these files were committed after the .po files in Pootle were
generated. Could someone please generate new .po files for nb-NO so I
can keep on translating up-to-date files?

Best regards,
Magnus Enger
libriotech.no

From Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de  Thu May  3 09:56:51 2012
From: Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de (Fischer, Katrin)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 09:56:51 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Can someone help me?
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Hi,

 

I have created Vietnamese po files and uploaded them to Pootle. The files are based on the 3.8.x branch and include the changes to the help files that were made after string freeze:

 

http://translate.koha-community.org/vi/38/

 

If you want to use an editor to work on the files, you can download the files as a zip archive from the review page. Please remember to upload your changed files back to Pootle in time for the next 3.8.x release, so they can be included.

 

http://translate.koha-community.org/vi/38/review.html 

 

Katrin

 

From: koha-translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org [mailto:koha-translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org] On Behalf Of Uy
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 12:24 PM
To: Samuel Desseaux
Cc: koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Can someone help me?

 

Thank you all! When you add vietnamese, can u show me where and how can i get started. I did download

The poedit program, but i can't download the .po file from site. They appear as a html site. Now i'm alone, but

Soon, i think some people will join me. Thanks again!

Kindest Regards!

Nguyen Quoc Uy


On 30-04-2012, at 11:37, Samuel Desseaux <samuel.desseaux at ecp.fr> wrote:

	Hi,
	
	I'll add Vietnamese and keep in touch asap.
	
	Samuel
	
	
	
	Le 30/04/2012 09:34, Fischer, Katrin a ?crit : 

	Hi, 

	 

	it seems that Vietnamese is currently not available on translate.koha-community.org, but our translations managers can add it for you. Poedit or a similar editor will work nicely when you are the only person translating a language, but for a group you might want to consider translating on translate.koha-community.org directly.

	 

	Katrin

	 

	 

	From: koha-translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org [mailto:koha-translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org] On Behalf Of Hugo Agud
	Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 12:04 AM
	To: Uy
	Cc: koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
	Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Can someone help me?

	 

	Hi

	 

	It is a quite easy issue.. there is a project focused on translating koha "http://translate.koha-community.org/" you just need to download the .po file and translate using poedit software...

	 

	It is quite easy to do ;)

	 

	Kindest Regards

	Hugo 

	2012/4/29 Uy <nguyenquocuy_1102 at yahoo.com>

	
	
	I wanna translate koha into vietnamese. But i don't know, did they do this, how can i join with them, and what can i do, and how? If noone did this, how can i start from beginning? Sorry, i'm a newbie with koha. Thanks for reading!
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From magnus at enger.priv.no  Thu May  3 10:00:22 2012
From: magnus at enger.priv.no (Magnus Enger)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 10:00:22 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Update for nb-NO?
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Oops, I forgot I can generate new .po files and upload them myself.
Just forget this message please...

Best regards,
Magnus

On 3 May 2012 08:26, Magnus Enger <magnus at enger.priv.no> wrote:
> Hiya!
>
> I managed to translate all of nb-NO for the 3.8 deadline, *except*
> most of the help pages. I might be able to do a few of them
> occasionally now, though. If I remember correctly, a lot of changes to
> these files were committed after the .po files in Pootle were
> generated. Could someone please generate new .po files for nb-NO so I
> can keep on translating up-to-date files?
>
> Best regards,
> Magnus Enger
> libriotech.no

From mtj at kohaaloha.com  Tue May  1 01:13:32 2012
From: mtj at kohaaloha.com (Mason James)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:13:32 +1200
Subject: [Koha-translate] [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
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On 2012-04-29, at 6:57 AM, Karam Qubsi wrote:

> Hi all .
> I'm looking to develop the result of koha translation process in Arabic
> 
> as you know the Arabic language is deffer from English
> 
> in Arabic we read and write from right to left
> 
> this is  possible to be modified by hand but if we want to create an
> Arabic version of koha we need to make the text by default goes from
> right to left .
> 
> so what we have to do to make this koha Arabic Version ?
> and make it as a choice in the installations steps when selecting Arabic.


some good news... :)

it looks like the Koha will do RTL (right-to-left) languages for translation correctly
... because Koha uses 'Pootle' software to translate


see here....

http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/developers/styling
http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle/features


 "The Pootle online translation editor
  - Implements right-to-Left display where needed for both translation content and the user interface"



and here...

http://franhp.net/svn/catux-server/configs/pootle.prefs

# Pootle.description
  # 
  # Consider adding <div dir="ltr"> ... </div> around any text in a left-to-
  # right language to guarantee good rendering for users of right-to-left 
  # languages and vice versa if you put a message in a right-to-left language.
  # For multilingual servers, you might also want to indicate the language of
  # your description to ensure proper rendering and for better accessibility.



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From mtj at kohaaloha.com  Tue May  1 01:18:36 2012
From: mtj at kohaaloha.com (Mason James)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:18:36 +1200
Subject: [Koha-translate] [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
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On 2012-05-1, at 9:36 AM, Karam Qubsi wrote:

> Hi Sam,
> I think that we can create a css templates that support all the rtl
> languages and let the user select what he prefer
> if his language is ltr he will select the default one , or he will
> select the second choice rtl to support his language, but each
> language must be translated to be supported , our group is from the
> Arab world and we are working to make koha in Arabic we are working
> here  :
> translate.koha-community.org/ar/36/
> 
> you can ask to open a Persian translation project and start
> translating , and when finishing you may find it easier if you find
> koha support the style from right to left :) 


oops - i now see you have discovered the 'right-to-left' translate option for pootle, already :)


> and koha 3.8 know is fully supported in search and retrieve for
> non-Latin languages .
> 
> I hope you will find the best way to start your  Persian project :)
> 
> kinds regards
> Karam Qubsi
> 
> 

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From ruth at bywatersolutions.com  Wed May  2 14:28:32 2012
From: ruth at bywatersolutions.com (Ruth Bavousett)
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 07:28:32 -0500
Subject: [Koha-translate] [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
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I've had occasion recently to look this problem over, despite not being a
speaker of any right-to-left languages, and there are two major parts of
the problem here:

1) String translation (which Koha handles with Pootle)
2) Layout translation (things flushing right instead of left, table column
order, and so on).

Koha handles the string-translation part very well, *if* the translation
team has done that work; many translations remain only partial, so there
are still lots of English words appearing on the pages.  Naturally, anyone
bilingual who wants to help Koha grow should be encouraged to participate
(at http://translate.koha-community.org) in getting the strings translated!

The layout-translation?  Not so much.  The code automatically inserts
'dir="rtl"' in the html tag at the page header, for languages so
designated, but the default CSS still contains many 'float: left' and
'text-align: left' directives, which causes the pages to look very strange
for right-to-left readers.  It is that problem I've been looking into, and
I believe I have a solution in the works; it is functioning on my OPAC test
server on my laptop, with English and Arabic installed, and behaving the
way I would expect it to.

My solution has four requirements:
   1) It cannot disrupt left-to-right pages; if a library has both English
and Arabic as choices, both need to work.
   2) It should be generalized, so that any RTL language can use it.
   3) It should be semi-automatic; at most, a system-preference needs to be
set to make it work.
   4) It should *not* be a complete new set of templates, which would make
upkeep a bigger problem.

The approach I'm testing right now meets all four of these requirements;
you just translate the templates with the script at
misc/translator/translate, as you do now, and enable the language in the
system preferences, as you do now, and it Just Works.   There is still some
CSS tweaking and testing to be done, and the task of extending the solution
into the staff client, but I'm on it.

After I finish this patch, hopefully in the next week or two, I will be
releasing it for the community; it should easily apply to 3.6.x, 3.8.x, and
master.

*D Ruth Bavousett*
Lead Migration Specialist
ByWater Solutions
Support and Consulting for Open Source Software
Headquarters: Santa Barbara, CA
Office: Lawrence, KS
Phone/Fax (888)900-8944
http://bywatersolutions.com
ruth at bywatersolutions.com



On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mason,
> this is not clear for me , can you give us more explanation ?
> the po files contains strings (not) css codes so where we have to put
> this codes ?
>
> I almost done in make koha from right to left (by changing the css
> templates manually ) and it's seems to be OK when it finish .
>
> it's not just about the direction of the text all the site must be
> right to left ( some images must be changed like the directions of
> some arrows when browsing a Shelve )
>
> so i wish you explain more to us about your idea it may make it more
> easy to us ,
> in the links you provide they are talking about Pootle in general , i
> wish some one tell us if this available for koha too .
>
> thanks a lot.
>
>
> where I have to put the lang
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Mason James <mtj at kohaaloha.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 2012-05-1, at 9:36 AM, Karam Qubsi wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Sam,
> >> I think that we can create a css templates that support all the rtl
> >> languages and let the user select what he prefer
> >> if his language is ltr he will select the default one , or he will
> >> select the second choice rtl to support his language, but each
> >> language must be translated to be supported , our group is from the
> >> Arab world and we are working to make koha in Arabic we are working
> >> here  :
> >> translate.koha-community.org/ar/36/
> >>
> >> you can ask to open a Persian translation project and start
> >> translating , and when finishing you may find it easier if you find
> >> koha support the style from right to left :)
> >
> >
> > oops - i now see you have discovered the 'right-to-left' translate
> option for pootle, already :)
> >
> >
> >> and koha 3.8 know is fully supported in search and retrieve for
> >> non-Latin languages .
> >>
> >> I hope you will find the best way to start your  Persian project :)
> >>
> >> kind regards
> >> Karam Qubsi
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Karam Qubsi
> Koha Arab translation Team
> http:koha.wikibrary.org
> Wikibrary for Arab librarians
> http://wikibrary.org
> _______________________________________________
> Koha mailing list  http://koha-community.org
> Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
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From mtj at kohaaloha.com  Wed May  2 16:40:52 2012
From: mtj at kohaaloha.com (Mason James)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 02:40:52 +1200
Subject: [Koha-translate] [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
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> 
> 
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mason,
> this is not clear for me , can you give us more explanation ?

no, because i have no more information to tell - thats all i know... :)


> the po files contains strings (not) css codes so where we have to put
> this codes ?
> 
> I almost done in make koha from right to left (by changing the css
> templates manually ) and it's seems to be OK when it finish .
> 
> it's not just about the direction of the text all the site must be
> right to left ( some images must be changed like the directions of
> some arrows when browsing a Shelve )
> 
> so i wish you explain more to us about your idea it may make it more
> easy to us ,
> in the links you provide they are talking about Pootle in general , i
> wish some one tell us if this available for koha too .


well, the good news is: koha uses pootle for translation. 

so any feature available in pootle, koha can use

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From massoud at kwareict.com  Thu May  3 11:35:31 2012
From: massoud at kwareict.com (Massoud Alshareef)
Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 12:35:31 +0300
Subject: [Koha-translate]  [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
Message-ID: <CAMp2hxY8q8UOwUSruTGk5v37CPLGT7ZeCK6e3+dnH2JPjBGDvw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Guys,

I support Ruth Bavousett's suggested approach if it can be generalized over
all CSS components.

Based on our experience with Arabic Koha (you can visit some Arabic/English
Koha sites to see it in action:
http://kfuschools.maktabat-online.net<http://kfuschools.maktabat-online.net:8080/>
  |
  http://alshafallah.maktabat-online.net/    |
http://mu.maktabat-online.net/;
for visiting the Arabic Staff client, click here:
http://kfuschools.maktabat-online.net:8080/     using demo/demo   for User
ID and Password), it must be R2L tweaked manually at almost every component
level in the CSS to appear correctly in R2L. This is the reason we have to
create and maintain an Arabic CSS for every Koha OPAC site interface.

We will be happy to work on Ruth's suggested implementation when his work
becomes available for testing. It will be awesome to see the Arabic Koha
(say ver. 3.10) comes billy dancing (middle eastern good-time expression!)
out of the box without having to tweak each component in order to look
super from right to left.

All the best.

Thanks
Massoud M. AlShareef,

                         ???? ????????? ????? ????? ?? ??????????
The world of achievement has always belonged to the optimist!

KnowledgeWare Technologies
(P.O. Box 230-312)
Riyadh 11321, Saudi Arabia
Cel: +966 505 307 267
massoud at kwareict.com
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 10:00:22 +0200
> From: Magnus Enger <magnus at enger.priv.no>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] Update for nb-NO?
> To: Koha-org - Translate list
>        <koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org>
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>
> Oops, I forgot I can generate new .po files and upload them myself.
> Just forget this message please...
>
> Best regards,
> Magnus
>
> On 3 May 2012 08:26, Magnus Enger <magnus at enger.priv.no> wrote:
> > Hiya!
> >
> > I managed to translate all of nb-NO for the 3.8 deadline, *except*
> > most of the help pages. I might be able to do a few of them
> > occasionally now, though. If I remember correctly, a lot of changes to
> > these files were committed after the .po files in Pootle were
> > generated. Could someone please generate new .po files for nb-NO so I
> > can keep on translating up-to-date files?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Magnus Enger
> > libriotech.no
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:04:13 -0500
> From: "Davoodifar, H. Sam (EDU)" <H.Sam.Davoodifar at gov.mb.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
> To: "'Karam Qubsi'" <karamqubsi at gmail.com>, "'Koha'"
>        <Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>,      "'
> koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org'"
>        <koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <2CAFA6219C7413438DA0FDDF813E725C5DB7606006 at OC1EX204.ME.MBGOV.CA>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi Karam,
>
> I think this is a great initiative. I'm fluent in Farsi (Persian) language
> and would be interested in helping out in developing Farsi version of the
> Koha that could be used in IRAN, Afghanistan, and other places. Please let
> me know how you are planning to proceed.
>
> Are you thinking to form a team to work on right-to-left languages?
> Let me know ...
>
> __Sam
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz [mailto:
> koha-bounces at lists.katipo.co.nz] On Behalf Of Karam Qubsi
> Sent: April-28-12 1:57 PM
> To: Koha; koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> Subject: [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
>
> Hi all .
> I'm looking to develop the result of koha translation process?in Arabic
>
> as you know the Arabic language is deffer from English
>
> in Arabic we read and write from right to left
>
> this is  possible to be modified by hand but if we want to create an
> Arabic version of koha we need to make the text by default goes from
> right to left .
>
> so what we have to do to make this koha Arabic Version ?
> and make it as a choice in the installations steps when selecting Arabic.
>
> I think my group can edit the css files and make this ok (direction rtl )
>
>  but how to make this changes Permanent for every new Arabic Koha
> installation
>
> can we make some default template for Arabic language , or that can be
> selected from the po files in some way ?
> or it must be included in the koha package , or what  ?
>
> Both Arabic and Hebrew, and the non-Semitic languages using the Arabic
> or the Hebrew alphabet, such as Persian and Yiddish, are written from
> right to left (except for their numbers!). Urdu which is also derived
> from Arabic and Persian language and ancient indo - aryan language
> binti is written from right to left. Ancient Egyptian, Etruscan, Greek
> and the oldest Latin could be written in both directions.
> Also Chinese and Japanese can be written right to left (also written
> from top to bottom, vertically).
> Korean is NOT written from right to left
>
>
> I wish we discuss this to make the next koha version fully supported
> for Arabic language
>
> Kind regards
>
> --
> Karam Qubsi
> Koha Arab translation Team
> http:koha.wikibrary.org
> Wikibrary for Arab librarians
> http://wikibrary.org
> _______________________________________________
> Koha mailing list  http://koha-community.org
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:13:32 +1200
> From: Mason James <mtj at kohaaloha.com>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
> To: Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi at gmail.com>
> Cc: Koha <Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>,
>        koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> Message-ID: <D3454B66-8512-4E9B-B3B6-00AA55F1298E at kohaaloha.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
> On 2012-04-29, at 6:57 AM, Karam Qubsi wrote:
>
> > Hi all .
> > I'm looking to develop the result of koha translation process in Arabic
> >
> > as you know the Arabic language is deffer from English
> >
> > in Arabic we read and write from right to left
> >
> > this is  possible to be modified by hand but if we want to create an
> > Arabic version of koha we need to make the text by default goes from
> > right to left .
> >
> > so what we have to do to make this koha Arabic Version ?
> > and make it as a choice in the installations steps when selecting Arabic.
>
>
> some good news... :)
>
> it looks like the Koha will do RTL (right-to-left) languages for
> translation correctly
> ... because Koha uses 'Pootle' software to translate
>
>
> see here....
>
> http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/developers/styling
> http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/pootle/features
>
>
>  "The Pootle online translation editor
>  - Implements right-to-Left display where needed for both translation
> content and the user interface"
>
>
>
> and here...
>
> http://franhp.net/svn/catux-server/configs/pootle.prefs
>
> # Pootle.description
>  #
>  # Consider adding <div dir="ltr"> ... </div> around any text in a left-to-
>  # right language to guarantee good rendering for users of right-to-left
>  # languages and vice versa if you put a message in a right-to-left
> language.
>  # For multilingual servers, you might also want to indicate the language
> of
>  # your description to ensure proper rendering and for better
> accessibility.
>
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> Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 11:18:36 +1200
> From: Mason James <mtj at kohaaloha.com>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
> To: Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi at gmail.com>
> Cc: Koha <Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>,
>        "koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org"
>        <koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org>, "Davoodifar, H. Sam
>        \(EDU\)" <H.Sam.Davoodifar at gov.mb.ca>
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>
> On 2012-05-1, at 9:36 AM, Karam Qubsi wrote:
>
> > Hi Sam,
> > I think that we can create a css templates that support all the rtl
> > languages and let the user select what he prefer
> > if his language is ltr he will select the default one , or he will
> > select the second choice rtl to support his language, but each
> > language must be translated to be supported , our group is from the
> > Arab world and we are working to make koha in Arabic we are working
> > here  :
> > translate.koha-community.org/ar/36/
> >
> > you can ask to open a Persian translation project and start
> > translating , and when finishing you may find it easier if you find
> > koha support the style from right to left :)
>
>
> oops - i now see you have discovered the 'right-to-left' translate option
> for pootle, already :)
>
>
> > and koha 3.8 know is fully supported in search and retrieve for
> > non-Latin languages .
> >
> > I hope you will find the best way to start your  Persian project :)
> >
> > kinds regards
> > Karam Qubsi
> >
> >
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 07:28:32 -0500
> From: Ruth Bavousett <ruth at bywatersolutions.com>
> Subject: Re: [Koha-translate] [Koha] Right To Left in Arabic KOHA
> To: Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi at gmail.com>
> Cc: Koha <Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz>, "Davoodifar,        H. Sam \(EDU\)"
>        <H.Sam.Davoodifar at gov.mb.ca>,   Mason James <mtj at kohaaloha.com>,
>        "koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org"
>        <koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org>
> Message-ID:
>        <CAOEF2+QZj29EcFMt2SApxgiuGfMgMsfU40hP9gRHBRuDg220Xg at mail.gmail.com
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>
> I've had occasion recently to look this problem over, despite not being a
> speaker of any right-to-left languages, and there are two major parts of
> the problem here:
>
> 1) String translation (which Koha handles with Pootle)
> 2) Layout translation (things flushing right instead of left, table column
> order, and so on).
>
> Koha handles the string-translation part very well, *if* the translation
> team has done that work; many translations remain only partial, so there
> are still lots of English words appearing on the pages.  Naturally, anyone
> bilingual who wants to help Koha grow should be encouraged to participate
> (at http://translate.koha-community.org) in getting the strings
> translated!
>
> The layout-translation?  Not so much.  The code automatically inserts
> 'dir="rtl"' in the html tag at the page header, for languages so
> designated, but the default CSS still contains many 'float: left' and
> 'text-align: left' directives, which causes the pages to look very strange
> for right-to-left readers.  It is that problem I've been looking into, and
> I believe I have a solution in the works; it is functioning on my OPAC test
> server on my laptop, with English and Arabic installed, and behaving the
> way I would expect it to.
>
> My solution has four requirements:
>   1) It cannot disrupt left-to-right pages; if a library has both English
> and Arabic as choices, both need to work.
>   2) It should be generalized, so that any RTL language can use it.
>   3) It should be semi-automatic; at most, a system-preference needs to be
> set to make it work.
>   4) It should *not* be a complete new set of templates, which would make
> upkeep a bigger problem.
>
> The approach I'm testing right now meets all four of these requirements;
> you just translate the templates with the script at
> misc/translator/translate, as you do now, and enable the language in the
> system preferences, as you do now, and it Just Works.   There is still some
> CSS tweaking and testing to be done, and the task of extending the solution
> into the staff client, but I'm on it.
>
> After I finish this patch, hopefully in the next week or two, I will be
> releasing it for the community; it should easily apply to 3.6.x, 3.8.x, and
> master.
>
> *D Ruth Bavousett*
> Lead Migration Specialist
> ByWater Solutions
> Support and Consulting for Open Source Software
> Headquarters: Santa Barbara, CA
> Office: Lawrence, KS
> Phone/Fax (888)900-8944
> http://bywatersolutions.com
> ruth at bywatersolutions.com
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Mason,
> > this is not clear for me , can you give us more explanation ?
> > the po files contains strings (not) css codes so where we have to put
> > this codes ?
> >
> > I almost done in make koha from right to left (by changing the css
> > templates manually ) and it's seems to be OK when it finish .
> >
> > it's not just about the direction of the text all the site must be
> > right to left ( some images must be changed like the directions of
> > some arrows when browsing a Shelve )
> >
> > so i wish you explain more to us about your idea it may make it more
> > easy to us ,
> > in the links you provide they are talking about Pootle in general , i
> > wish some one tell us if this available for koha too .
> >
> > thanks a lot.
> >
> >
> > where I have to put the lang
> >
> > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:18 AM, Mason James <mtj at kohaaloha.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 2012-05-1, at 9:36 AM, Karam Qubsi wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Sam,
> > >> I think that we can create a css templates that support all the rtl
> > >> languages and let the user select what he prefer
> > >> if his language is ltr he will select the default one , or he will
> > >> select the second choice rtl to support his language, but each
> > >> language must be translated to be supported , our group is from the
> > >> Arab world and we are working to make koha in Arabic we are working
> > >> here  :
> > >> translate.koha-community.org/ar/36/
> > >>
> > >> you can ask to open a Persian translation project and start
> > >> translating , and when finishing you may find it easier if you find
> > >> koha support the style from right to left :)
> > >
> > >
> > > oops - i now see you have discovered the 'right-to-left' translate
> > option for pootle, already :)
> > >
> > >
> > >> and koha 3.8 know is fully supported in search and retrieve for
> > >> non-Latin languages .
> > >>
> > >> I hope you will find the best way to start your  Persian project :)
> > >>
> > >> kind regards
> > >> Karam Qubsi
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Karam Qubsi
> > Koha Arab translation Team
> > http:koha.wikibrary.org
> > Wikibrary for Arab librarians
> > http://wikibrary.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > Koha mailing list  http://koha-community.org
> > Koha at lists.katipo.co.nz
> > http://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha
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From f.demians at tamil.fr  Fri May  4 13:18:22 2012
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?UTF-8?B?RnLDqWTDqXJpYyBEZW1pYW5z?=)
Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 13:18:22 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Chinese Translation
In-Reply-To: <CAKzJnzMQXA9VgR2yPdK90X_vny7i7Uhg-jMAYmS3TWAEEM73Bw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKzJnzMQXA9VgR2yPdK90X_vny7i7Uhg-jMAYmS3TWAEEM73Bw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FA3BAFE.4080109@tamil.fr>

Dear Anthony,

 > I am working on Chinese(Taiwan) and Chinese(China) 3.8 now.

 > There is a little bit trouble with
 > http://translate.koha-community.org/zh_CN, 3.6 and 3.8.  It seems I
 > lost the three po files from both of them.  Could you rebuild
 > http://translate.koha-community.org/zh_CN, 3.6 and 3.8 again?

That's bad! Do you know how it happens? Do you work locally, and then
upload your file? In this workflow, it could happen that locally
corrupted files, for whatever reason, break Pootle DB during upload. I
can reload you language files as available in Koha community
repository.

Kind regards,
-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html

From trmurakami at gmail.com  Mon May  7 16:55:30 2012
From: trmurakami at gmail.com (Tiago Murakami)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 11:55:30 -0300
Subject: [Koha-translate] Brasilian portuguese is near complete
Message-ID: <CAPwifggdWX_4v9Q+8fzmWqwhqOGrCxfAay3PQYtVR6W72f=DQQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The translation of version 3.8 is near complete.?I would be happy?if
you could?cite my?name and that of?Rafael?Saad?in?about?Koha.

Thanks.

--
Tiago Murakami
Librarian
Biblioteca P?blica Municipal Manuel Bandeira
S?o Bernardo do Campo - S?o Paulo - Brasil

From cnighswonger at foundations.edu  Tue May  8 18:52:30 2012
From: cnighswonger at foundations.edu (Chris Nighswonger)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 12:52:30 -0400
Subject: [Koha-translate] Fwd: [Koha-devel] Koha 3.6 string freeze
In-Reply-To: <CALVDfQxvT-jsPzQK9hkSSEP2Q-hnw889XPRmXrcNdVcpw4nBxg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALVDfQxvT-jsPzQK9hkSSEP2Q-hnw889XPRmXrcNdVcpw4nBxg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP3yOom7O5SZE0C78N5MQq2Ews7fE8_AWTuTdz4TyK5tahmi2g@mail.gmail.com>

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jared Camins-Esakov <jcamins at cpbibliography.com>
Date: Tue, May 8, 2012 at 12:29 PM
Subject: [Koha-devel] Koha 3.6 string freeze
To: koha-devel at lists.koha-community.org


Greetings, international Koha community!

As you may know, I was elected as Release Maintainer for the 3.6.x branch
for the Koha 3.10 release cycle. Well, the time has come to do some
releasing! Over the weekend I cherry-picked all candidates for inclusion in
the 3.6.x into a new branch: 3.6.x-maint/testing. I encourage you to test
that branch out, and try to shake out any bugs that there may be. Tomorrow
I will be cherry-picking commits into the existing 3.6.x branch for the
Koha 3.6.5 release. With the exception of high priority patches, only those
commits that were incorporated into Master on or before April 12 will be
considered for inclusion. The 3.6.x branch will then enter string freeze on
May 10 at 16:00 UTC to give the translation teams time to work their magic.
Koha 3.6.5 will be released on May 24.

Regards,
Jared Camins-Esakov

-- 
Jared Camins-Esakov
Bibliographer, C & P Bibliography Services, LLC
(phone) +1 (917) 727-3445
(e-mail) jcamins at cpbibliography.com
(web) http://www.cpbibliography.com/


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From chris at bigballofwax.co.nz  Wed May  9 00:31:25 2012
From: chris at bigballofwax.co.nz (Chris Cormack)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 10:31:25 +1200
Subject: [Koha-translate] [Koha-devel] Koha 3.6 string freeze
In-Reply-To: <CALVDfQxvT-jsPzQK9hkSSEP2Q-hnw889XPRmXrcNdVcpw4nBxg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALVDfQxvT-jsPzQK9hkSSEP2Q-hnw889XPRmXrcNdVcpw4nBxg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+95qVT2JQy_8qPoBWHUJv63OLag4O8tm-XTudL0L3cojx10oA@mail.gmail.com>

On 9 May 2012 04:29, Jared Camins-Esakov <jcamins at cpbibliography.com> wrote:
> Greetings, international Koha community!
>
> As you may know, I was elected as Release Maintainer for the 3.6.x branch
> for the Koha 3.10 release cycle. Well, the time has come to do some
> releasing! Over the weekend I cherry-picked all candidates for inclusion in
> the 3.6.x into a new branch: 3.6.x-maint/testing. I encourage you to test
> that branch out, and try to shake out any bugs that there may be. Tomorrow I
> will be cherry-picking commits into the existing 3.6.x branch for the Koha
> 3.6.5 release. With the exception of high priority patches, only those
> commits that were incorporated into Master on or before April 12 will be
> considered for inclusion. The 3.6.x branch will then enter string freeze on
> May 10 at 16:00 UTC to give the translation teams time to work their magic.
> Koha 3.6.5 will be released on May 24.
>

And as Release Maintainer, I'd like to announce a string freeze for
Koha 3.8.1 on the 15th of May (NZST :)) with a goal of releasing on
the 22nd.

Currently there are not many string changes from 3.8.0, so translating
now would not be a bad thing :)

Chris

From f.demians at tamil.fr  Thu May 10 20:44:28 2012
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Demians?=)
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 20:44:28 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Koha 3.6.5 String Freeze
Message-ID: <4FAC0C8C.8060703@tamil.fr>

Dear Koha Translators,

Translation files have been updated for the coming Koha 3.6.5 version on:

   http://translate.koha-community.org

Kind regards,

-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html


From maolins at gmail.com  Mon May 14 02:55:29 2012
From: maolins at gmail.com (Anthony Mao)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 08:55:29 +0800
Subject: [Koha-translate] Consistency of pot files
Message-ID: <CAKzJnzPx-m1ZKerzO6UXmenHTz3ABA9fdv-BnEvpaF4ryVb_PQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,


My name is Anthony Mao, Chinese translator, Traditional(Taiwan) and
Simplified(China).

I presume all po files should be the same at all languages.  How ever
I find it does not.  Take Koha 3.8 Chinese(Taiwan), French and German
as a case.

At the 5th entry, let us read first 10 lines:

zh-Hans-TW-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po
#. For the first occurrence,
#. %1$s:  CASE 'dc'
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:51
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:52
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:53
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:54
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:55
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:56
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:57
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-facets.inc:6

r-FR-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po
#. For the first occurrence,
#. %1$s:  IF ( limit == 10 )
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:5
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:6
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:7
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:8
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:9
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:10
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:11
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:12

de-DE-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po
#. For the first occurrence,
#. %1$s:  cardnumber
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:17
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:32
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:38
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:40
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:44
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:46
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:48
#: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-account.tt:33

The second lines are different. And the rest are not the same too.

Should I disregard them and keep on translation?

-- 
Wishing you all the best. . . .


Anthony Mao ???
?886 2 29052334 (voice)
+ 886 2 29017405 (FAX)

From Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de  Mon May 14 14:44:23 2012
From: Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de (Fischer, Katrin)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 14:44:23 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Consistency of pot files
In-Reply-To: <CAKzJnzPx-m1ZKerzO6UXmenHTz3ABA9fdv-BnEvpaF4ryVb_PQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKzJnzPx-m1ZKerzO6UXmenHTz3ABA9fdv-BnEvpaF4ryVb_PQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <028B1A54D03E7B4482CDCA4EC8F06BFD02010C82@Bodensee.bsz-bw.de>

Hi, 

I suspect the main reason for the difference you see is that I updated the German files to latest master (that got to be 3.8) before uploading them to translate.koha-community.org. I think the order in the files will probably be more similar once we enter string freeze for 3.8.1 and all the files get updated again. Anyway it should be ok even with some differences. 
I am sorry for causing confusion.

Hope that helps,

Katrin





> -----Original Message-----
> From: koha-translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org [mailto:koha-
> translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org] On Behalf Of Anthony Mao
> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 2:55 AM
> To: koha-translate
> Subject: [Koha-translate] Consistency of pot files
> 
> Hi,
> 
> 
> My name is Anthony Mao, Chinese translator, Traditional(Taiwan) and
> Simplified(China).
> 
> I presume all po files should be the same at all languages.  How ever I find
> it does not.  Take Koha 3.8 Chinese(Taiwan), French and German as a case.
> 
> At the 5th entry, let us read first 10 lines:
> 
> zh-Hans-TW-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po
> #. For the first occurrence,
> #. %1$s:  CASE 'dc'
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:51
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:52
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:53
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:54
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:55
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:56
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-detail-sidebar.inc:57
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-facets.inc:6
> 
> r-FR-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po
> #. For the first occurrence,
> #. %1$s:  IF ( limit == 10 )
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:5
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:6
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:7
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:8
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:9
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:10
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:11
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/includes/opac-topissues.inc:12
> 
> de-DE-i-opac-t-prog-v-3006000.po
> #. For the first occurrence,
> #. %1$s:  cardnumber
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:17
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:32
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:38
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:40
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:44
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:46
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-userdetails.tt:48
> #: opac-tmpl/prog/en/modules/opac-account.tt:33
> 
> The second lines are different. And the rest are not the same too.
> 
> Should I disregard them and keep on translation?
> 
> --
> Wishing you all the best. . . .
> 
> 
> Anthony Mao ???
> ?886 2 29052334 (voice)
> + 886 2 29017405 (FAX)
> _______________________________________________
> Koha-translate mailing list
> Koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-translate
> website: www.koha-community.org
> git: git.koha-community.org
> bugs: bugs.koha-community.org

From chris at bigballofwax.co.nz  Mon May 14 23:56:37 2012
From: chris at bigballofwax.co.nz (Chris Cormack)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 09:56:37 +1200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Koha 3.8.1 entering string freeze
Message-ID: <CA+95qVRBygaZxHZO6Q=8yE7Kd8g2OyDzugY1jz73x_eXM2n0JQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All

As promised, the 3.8.x branch has entered string freeze in preparation
for the 3.8.1 release next week.

"So?" you ask, "What does this mean for me?"

Are you a developer? - If so just be aware I will only be pushing
patches that do not contain changes to any of the translatable strings
from now until the release.
Are you a translator? - Once the translation manager emails to say the
po files are updated, you are clear to translate your hearts out.
Are you a Koha user? - If you have the skills or know someone who
does, check out the 3.8.x and do some testing on it, that would be
awesome.
Are you a brewer? - I quite like a nice IPA

Chris

From f.demians at tamil.fr  Tue May 15 08:58:21 2012
From: f.demians at tamil.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_Demians?=)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 08:58:21 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Koha 3.8.1 String Freeze
Message-ID: <4FB1FE8D.70909@tamil.fr>

Dear Translators,

Chris Cormack, Koha 3.8 Release Maintainer, has announced 3.8.1 version
String Freeze. Therefore, http://translate.koha-community.org has been
updated with last strings to be translated for this version. You will
note that there are a lot of new strings coming from Koha contextual
help pages which have been updated from 3.8.0 to 3.8.1.

Kind regards,
-- 
Fr?d?ric DEMIANS
http://www.tamil.fr/u/fdemians.html

From massoud at kwareict.com  Wed May 16 08:00:57 2012
From: massoud at kwareict.com (Massoud Alshareef)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:00:57 +0300
Subject: [Koha-translate] Multi-Lingual SQL & User Defined Parameters
Message-ID: <CAMp2hxbU3fzajsQjgd-hou-RiPLmJ7y8Wf3XU=k2=5W15pPzmQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have asked a question about two years ago about when we can have Koha
support of Multi-Lingual SQL files (used for marc21/Auth fields description
in the Staff client) and Multi-Lingual users defined parameters (used for
describing items/ libraries & groups/ locations/ patrons categories/ etc),
and the answer from Koha development then was that it is
under consideration but not in the development pipelines yet, as it will
require some re-structuring in Koha system databases and controls. That
means, Koha will remain a single language in these areas.

With Koha 3.6 release, I noticed the inclusion of "Spanish translation for
SQL files" in the INTERNATIONALIZATION enhancement section. Does this mean
that Spanish Koha, or any non-English Koha, now has both Spanish and
English SQL files, where Koha users can switch between more than one
language when, for instance, editing marc records in the staff client ?

Koha Preferences description used to be in SQL files, which means a single
language prefers, and then moved into PO files format with 3.2 release (I
think) and thus Preferences became multi-lingual since then.

Thank you Koha development for elaborating on the issue of having a fully
bilingual Koha.

BTW, Arabic Koha 3.8 is now on the fast-lanes translation speed to be
completed within 3-4 weeks.
See Arabic Koha 3.8 OPAC demo site on
http://176.34.184.60/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%85

Thanks
Massoud M. AlShareef,

The world of achievement has always belonged to the optimist!

KnowledgeWare Technologies
(P.O. Box 230-312)
Riyadh 11321, Saudi Arabia
Cel: +966 505 307 267
massoud at kwareict.com
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From karamqubsi at gmail.com  Wed May 16 14:15:53 2012
From: karamqubsi at gmail.com (Karam Qubsi)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 15:15:53 +0300
Subject: [Koha-translate] Multi-Lingual SQL & User Defined Parameters
Message-ID: <CAML=htZqYruzeuJ+iYSbwJT3KaOkg2M1Ho0JXYL3VNiLNdvpFQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
Dear Mr Massoud ,
Dear all,

I think this will be very helpful for the people who don't want to use
the English interface in Koha , and as you say when we finish
translating koha 3.8 to Arabic ( very soon inshaallah) ,
we will have  problems with the people who want to use koha in Arabic
and english in the same time
e.g:
May be some Arab librarian prefer to use koha English interface for
the staff client  , and in the case that  we've used the translated
sql files (that your company provided it to us) for the marc21 the
Arab librarian who want to use the English interface will have a
problem because all the staff client will be in english except for the
marc records

and if we use the English version of the marc21 sql files the problem
will be that the Arab librarian who will use the Arabic interface will
see the marc fields in english

so if we want to use arabic interface we have to use arabic sql files for marc

is it possible to make something like armarc as we have normarc in the
SQL structure ?!

it's not a standard we don't really have 'armarc' and it is not a
solution so the library chose its Marc flavor and all the librarian in
that library will be forced to use this armarc , but will help to make
the installation of the translated Arabic marc more easier

and for the preferences description is included in the po files but
the preferences still in English (the main term )

maybe the best solution is to make all the strings in koha included in
the po files I don't have deep technical background but this will be
more flexible for koha users all over the world for other languages
not only for the Arabic language


wish you will be able to do that for all the koha community :)



 thanks a lot for you Mr Massoud

and thanks you all in Koha community for helping us :D


Karam Qubsi
Koha Arab Translating Team
http://koha.wikibrary.org/
Wikibrary for Arab Librarians
http://wikibrary.org


> Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:00:57 +0300
> From: Massoud Alshareef <massoud at kwareict.com>
> Subject: [Koha-translate] Multi-Lingual SQL & User Defined Parameters
> To: koha-devel at lists.katipo.co.nz, koha at lists.katipo.co.nz,
> ? ? ? ?koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> Message-ID:
> ? ? ? ?<CAMp2hxbU3fzajsQjgd-hou-RiPLmJ7y8Wf3XU=k2=5W15pPzmQ at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello,
>
> I have asked a question about two years ago about when we can have Koha
> support of Multi-Lingual SQL files (used for marc21/Auth fields description
> in the Staff client) and Multi-Lingual users defined parameters (used for
> describing items/ libraries & groups/ locations/ patrons categories/ etc),
> and the answer from Koha development then was that it is
> under consideration but not in the development pipelines yet, as it will
> require some re-structuring in Koha system databases and controls. That
> means, Koha will remain a single language in these areas.
>
> With Koha 3.6 release, I noticed the inclusion of "Spanish translation for
> SQL files" in the INTERNATIONALIZATION enhancement section. Does this mean
> that Spanish Koha, or any non-English Koha, now has both Spanish and
> English SQL files, where Koha users can switch between more than one
> language when, for instance, editing marc records in the staff client ?
>
> Koha Preferences description used to be in SQL files, which means a single
> language prefers, and then moved into PO files format with 3.2 release (I
> think) and thus Preferences became multi-lingual since then.
>
> Thank you Koha development for elaborating on the issue of having a fully
> bilingual Koha.
>
> BTW, Arabic Koha 3.8 is now on the fast-lanes translation speed to be
> completed within 3-4 weeks.
> See Arabic Koha 3.8 OPAC demo site on
> http://176.34.184.60/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%85
>
> Thanks
> Massoud M. AlShareef,
>
> The world of achievement has always belonged to the optimist!
>
> KnowledgeWare Technologies
> (P.O. Box 230-312)
> Riyadh 11321, Saudi Arabia
> Cel: +966 505 307 267
> massoud at kwareict.com
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From massoud at kwareict.com  Wed May 16 14:55:56 2012
From: massoud at kwareict.com (Massoud Alshareef)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 15:55:56 +0300
Subject: [Koha-translate] Multi-Lingual SQL & User Defined Parameters
In-Reply-To: <CAML=htZqYruzeuJ+iYSbwJT3KaOkg2M1Ho0JXYL3VNiLNdvpFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAML=htZqYruzeuJ+iYSbwJT3KaOkg2M1Ho0JXYL3VNiLNdvpFQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMp2hxapGc7WU5hfD3k5SFgjsFHksbNxxOSXvfwAfMoMLbUSHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Most academic libraries in the Arabian Gulf region (Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain,
Qatar, UAE, Oman) always have bilingual catalogers, some do Arabic books
cataloging (Arabs mostly from Saudi and Egypt with near zero English
background) and some do English books cataloging (non-Arabs mostly from
India and Pakistan who are generally fluent in English but have little or
no Arabic language understanding).

Imagine the case when both language catalogers doing cataloging/ authority
work using the same Arabic/English Koha installation !! I think it is like
a night-mare for one of the two groups at least, and the other group
feeling sorry for their colleagues; I did live the experience at a
University library using another single language ILS in the late nineties,
and if you are wondering it was not a healthy environment experience at all!

Thanks
Massoud M. AlShareef,

The world of achievement has always belonged to the optimist!

KnowledgeWare Technologies
(P.O. Box 230-312)
Riyadh 11321, Saudi Arabia
Cel: +966 505 307 267
massoud at kwareict.com

On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Karam Qubsi <karamqubsi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
> Dear Mr Massoud ,
> Dear all,
>
> I think this will be very helpful for the people who don't want to use
> the English interface in Koha , and as you say when we finish
> translating koha 3.8 to Arabic ( very soon inshaallah) ,
> we will have  problems with the people who want to use koha in Arabic
> and english in the same time
> e.g:
> May be some Arab librarian prefer to use koha English interface for
> the staff client  , and in the case that  we've used the translated
> sql files (that your company provided it to us) for the marc21 the
> Arab librarian who want to use the English interface will have a
> problem because all the staff client will be in english except for the
> marc records
>
> and if we use the English version of the marc21 sql files the problem
> will be that the Arab librarian who will use the Arabic interface will
> see the marc fields in english
>
> so if we want to use arabic interface we have to use arabic sql files for
> marc
>
> is it possible to make something like armarc as we have normarc in the
> SQL structure ?!
>
> it's not a standard we don't really have 'armarc' and it is not a
> solution so the library chose its Marc flavor and all the librarian in
> that library will be forced to use this armarc , but will help to make
> the installation of the translated Arabic marc more easier
>
> and for the preferences description is included in the po files but
> the preferences still in English (the main term )
>
> maybe the best solution is to make all the strings in koha included in
> the po files I don't have deep technical background but this will be
> more flexible for koha users all over the world for other languages
> not only for the Arabic language
>
>
> wish you will be able to do that for all the koha community :)
>
>
>
>  thanks a lot for you Mr Massoud
>
> and thanks you all in Koha community for helping us :D
>
>
> Karam Qubsi
> Koha Arab Translating Team
> http://koha.wikibrary.org/
> Wikibrary for Arab Librarians
> http://wikibrary.org
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 09:00:57 +0300
> > From: Massoud Alshareef <massoud at kwareict.com>
> > Subject: [Koha-translate] Multi-Lingual SQL & User Defined Parameters
> > To: koha-devel at lists.katipo.co.nz, koha at lists.katipo.co.nz,
> >        koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> > Message-ID:
> >        <CAMp2hxbU3fzajsQjgd-hou-RiPLmJ7y8Wf3XU=k2=
> 5W15pPzmQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have asked a question about two years ago about when we can have Koha
> > support of Multi-Lingual SQL files (used for marc21/Auth fields
> description
> > in the Staff client) and Multi-Lingual users defined parameters (used for
> > describing items/ libraries & groups/ locations/ patrons categories/
> etc),
> > and the answer from Koha development then was that it is
> > under consideration but not in the development pipelines yet, as it will
> > require some re-structuring in Koha system databases and controls. That
> > means, Koha will remain a single language in these areas.
> >
> > With Koha 3.6 release, I noticed the inclusion of "Spanish translation
> for
> > SQL files" in the INTERNATIONALIZATION enhancement section. Does this
> mean
> > that Spanish Koha, or any non-English Koha, now has both Spanish and
> > English SQL files, where Koha users can switch between more than one
> > language when, for instance, editing marc records in the staff client ?
> >
> > Koha Preferences description used to be in SQL files, which means a
> single
> > language prefers, and then moved into PO files format with 3.2 release (I
> > think) and thus Preferences became multi-lingual since then.
> >
> > Thank you Koha development for elaborating on the issue of having a fully
> > bilingual Koha.
> >
> > BTW, Arabic Koha 3.8 is now on the fast-lanes translation speed to be
> > completed within 3-4 weeks.
> > See Arabic Koha 3.8 OPAC demo site on
> > http://176.34.184.60/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl?q=%D8%B9%D9%84%D9%85
> >
> > Thanks
> > Massoud M. AlShareef,
> >
> > The world of achievement has always belonged to the optimist!
> >
> > KnowledgeWare Technologies
> > (P.O. Box 230-312)
> > Riyadh 11321, Saudi Arabia
> > Cel: +966 505 307 267
> > massoud at kwareict.com
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From karamqubsi at gmail.com  Sun May 20 11:06:08 2012
From: karamqubsi at gmail.com (Karam Qubsi)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 12:06:08 +0300
Subject: [Koha-translate] [Arabic Koha] Extract po from template ?
Message-ID: <CAML=htattDnJ57mpDcHOyRTF=StqW3NwciZiZaWP19Yu+aoHRg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all ,
We have a translated template which contain Arabic translations for
008 in marc , how can we convert this template to po and add it to the
po files in the translation website

-- 
Karam Qubsi
Koha Arab Translating Team
http://koha.wikibrary.org/
Wikibrary for Arab Librarians
http://wikibrary.org

From beda at kollegium-sarnen.ch  Wed May 23 17:25:28 2012
From: beda at kollegium-sarnen.ch (Beda Szukics)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2012 17:25:28 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] po-Files with wrong strings
Message-ID: <4FBD0168.8050209@kollegium-sarnen.ch>

Hi all

I installed Koha 3.8.1.

I got the following error while installing the german translation:

koha at ...:/usr/share/koha/misc/translator$ perl translate install de-DE
Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at
/usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 466, <IN> line 97052.
Use of uninitialized value in hash element at
/usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 449, <IN> line 97052.


less -N po/de-DE-i-staff-t-prog-v-3006000.po tells me:

  97050
  97051 # Meldung, wenn vorgemerktes Buch an falschen Benutzer
ausgeliehen werden soll
  97052 # Dienstrecherche - Medientypsuche

I guess that the last two lines should not appear in the po-file.


There is a similar error with it-IT:

koha at ...:/usr/share/koha/misc/translator$ perl translate install it-IT
Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at
/usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 466, <IN> line 17234.
Use of uninitialized value in hash element at
/usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 449, <IN> line 17234.
Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at
/usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 466, <IN> line 96677.
Use of uninitialized value in hash element at
/usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 449, <IN> line 96677.

and with pt-BR:

koha at ...:/usr/share/koha/misc/translator$ perl translate install pt-BR
Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at
/usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 466, <IN> line 17247.
Use of uninitialized value in hash element at
/usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 449, <IN> line 17247.
Use of uninitialized value $key in hash element at
/usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 466, <IN> line 96513.
Use of uninitialized value in hash element at
/usr/share/perl5/Locale/PO.pm line 449, <IN> line 96513.


But fr-FR works fine (I haven't tested other translations).


Any hints?


Beda

From tajoli at cilea.it  Fri May 25 11:36:51 2012
From: tajoli at cilea.it (Zeno Tajoli)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 11:36:51 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
Message-ID: <4FBF52B3.60400@cilea.it>

Hi to all,

can you give me the higher permissiosn on files for 3.8 ?
As the permissions that I have on 3.6/3.4/3.2

Bye
Zeno Tajoli

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From samuel.desseaux at ecp.fr  Fri May 25 11:47:17 2012
From: samuel.desseaux at ecp.fr (Samuel desseaux)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 11:47:17 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
In-Reply-To: <4FBF52B3.60400@cilea.it>
References: <4FBF52B3.60400@cilea.it>
Message-ID: <4FBF5525.6090207@ecp.fr>

Le 25/05/2012 11:36, Zeno Tajoli a ?crit :
> Hi to all,
>
> can you give me the higher permissiosn on files for 3.8 ?
> As the permissions that I have on 3.6/3.4/3.2
>
> Bye
> Zeno Tajoli
>
>    

Hi Zeno,

I've checked your rights. It seems to be good.

Can you test?



Samuel
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From tajoli at cilea.it  Fri May 25 11:55:15 2012
From: tajoli at cilea.it (Zeno Tajoli)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 11:55:15 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
In-Reply-To: <4FBF5525.6090207@ecp.fr>
References: <4FBF52B3.60400@cilea.it> <4FBF5525.6090207@ecp.fr>
Message-ID: <4FBF5703.4090300@cilea.it>

Hi Samuel,

Il 25/05/2012 11:47, Samuel desseaux ha scritto:
> Le 25/05/2012 11:36, Zeno Tajoli a ?crit :
> 
> I've checked your rights. It seems to be good.
> 
> Can you test?

in fact I find that on 3.8 I have the same permissions of 3.6.
The only difference is in
http://translate.koha-community.org/accounts/tajoli

I see tink for 3.2, 3.4, 3.6 and not for 3.8

It is strange but the effect is irrilevant.

Thank you for your help.

Bye
Zeno Tajoli
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From Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de  Fri May 25 12:14:41 2012
From: Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de (Fischer, Katrin)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 12:14:41 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
References: <4FBF52B3.60400@cilea.it> <4FBF5525.6090207@ecp.fr>
	<4FBF5703.4090300@cilea.it>
Message-ID: <028B1A54D03E7B4482CDCA4EC8F06BFD01626722@Bodensee.bsz-bw.de>

Hi Zeno,

I think the problem might be in the settings for your user account. I suggest checking if the new 3.8 project is activated in your user's settings. 

My Account > Settings > Projects

I hope that will solve your problem.

Katrin

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: koha-translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org im Auftrag von Zeno Tajoli
Gesendet: Fr 25.05.2012 11:55
An: Samuel desseaux
Cc: koha-translate
Betreff: Re: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
 
Hi Samuel,

Il 25/05/2012 11:47, Samuel desseaux ha scritto:
> Le 25/05/2012 11:36, Zeno Tajoli a ?crit :
> 
> I've checked your rights. It seems to be good.
> 
> Can you test?

in fact I find that on 3.8 I have the same permissions of 3.6.
The only difference is in
http://translate.koha-community.org/accounts/tajoli

I see tink for 3.2, 3.4, 3.6 and not for 3.8

It is strange but the effect is irrilevant.

Thank you for your help.

Bye
Zeno Tajoli
-- 
Dott. Zeno Tajoli
tajoliAT_SPAM_no_prendiATcilea.it
fax +39 02 2135520
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From samuel.desseaux at ecp.fr  Fri May 25 12:24:40 2012
From: samuel.desseaux at ecp.fr (Samuel desseaux)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 12:24:40 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
In-Reply-To: <028B1A54D03E7B4482CDCA4EC8F06BFD01626722@Bodensee.bsz-bw.de>
References: <4FBF52B3.60400@cilea.it> <4FBF5525.6090207@ecp.fr>
	<4FBF5703.4090300@cilea.it>
	<028B1A54D03E7B4482CDCA4EC8F06BFD01626722@Bodensee.bsz-bw.de>
Message-ID: <4FBF5DE8.2060907@ecp.fr>

yes, it's the good way but i find Zeno in italian for 3.8.

I don't understand. I 'll check one more time.

samuel






Le 25/05/2012 12:14, Fischer, Katrin a ?crit :
>
> Hi Zeno,
>
> I think the problem might be in the settings for your user account. I 
> suggest checking if the new 3.8 project is activated in your user's 
> settings.
>
> My Account > Settings > Projects
>
> I hope that will solve your problem.
>
> Katrin
>
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: koha-translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org im Auftrag von 
> Zeno Tajoli
> Gesendet: Fr 25.05.2012 11:55
> An: Samuel desseaux
> Cc: koha-translate
> Betreff: Re: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
>
> Hi Samuel,
>
> Il 25/05/2012 11:47, Samuel desseaux ha scritto:
> > Le 25/05/2012 11:36, Zeno Tajoli a ?crit :
> >
> > I've checked your rights. It seems to be good.
> >
> > Can you test?
>
> in fact I find that on 3.8 I have the same permissions of 3.6.
> The only difference is in
> http://translate.koha-community.org/accounts/tajoli
>
> I see tink for 3.2, 3.4, 3.6 and not for 3.8
>
> It is strange but the effect is irrilevant.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Bye
> Zeno Tajoli
> --
> Dott. Zeno Tajoli
> tajoliAT_SPAM_no_prendiATcilea.it
> fax +39 02 2135520
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> bugs: bugs.koha-community.org
>
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From mglavica at ffzg.hr  Fri May 25 19:52:58 2012
From: mglavica at ffzg.hr (Marijana Glavica)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 19:52:58 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
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References: <4FBF52B3.60400@cilea.it>
Message-ID: <20120525175258.GH28232@mjesec.ffzg.hr>

please also to me :)
for 3.8 as on 3.6

Marijana Glavica

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:36:51AM +0200, Zeno Tajoli wrote:
> Hi to all,
> 
> can you give me the higher permissiosn on files for 3.8 ?
> As the permissions that I have on 3.6/3.4/3.2
> 
> Bye
> Zeno Tajoli
> 
> -- 
> Dott. Zeno Tajoli
> tajoliAT_SPAM_no_prendiATcilea.it
> fax +39 02 2135520
> CILEA - Consorzio Interuniversitario
> http://www.cilea.it/disclaimer
> _______________________________________________
> Koha-translate mailing list
> Koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-translate
> website: www.koha-community.org
> git: git.koha-community.org
> bugs: bugs.koha-community.org

From tajoli at cilea.it  Fri May 25 21:34:34 2012
From: tajoli at cilea.it (tajoli at cilea.it)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 21:34:34 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
In-Reply-To: <028B1A54D03E7B4482CDCA4EC8F06BFD01626722@Bodensee.bsz-bw.de>
Message-ID: <1d884de4-4537-48ec-8ea6-a8195b8d6dff@esx-revenge>

Hi to all,

>I think the problem might be in the settings for your user account. I suggest checking if the new 3.8 project is activated in your >user's settings. 
>My Account > Settings > Projects 
>I hope that will solve your problem. 

the problem is solved.
I do the check written by Katrin adn now all is OK.

Thank you very much for everything.

Bye
Zeno Tajoli
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From Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de  Sat May 26 11:02:34 2012
From: Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de (Fischer, Katrin)
Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 11:02:34 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
References: <4FBF52B3.60400@cilea.it> <20120525175258.GH28232@mjesec.ffzg.hr>
Message-ID: <028B1A54D03E7B4482CDCA4EC8F06BFD01626724@Bodensee.bsz-bw.de>

Hi Marijana, 

I have given you permissions for 3.8 - I think you also have to check your user's settings to make the project show up on your dashboard.

Looking forward to see you again soon!

Katrin


-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: koha-translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org im Auftrag von Marijana Glavica
Gesendet: Fr 25.05.2012 19:52
An: koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
Betreff: Re: [Koha-translate] Permissions on files for 3.8
 
please also to me :)
for 3.8 as on 3.6

Marijana Glavica

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:36:51AM +0200, Zeno Tajoli wrote:
> Hi to all,
> 
> can you give me the higher permissiosn on files for 3.8 ?
> As the permissions that I have on 3.6/3.4/3.2
> 
> Bye
> Zeno Tajoli
> 
> -- 
> Dott. Zeno Tajoli
> tajoliAT_SPAM_no_prendiATcilea.it
> fax +39 02 2135520
> CILEA - Consorzio Interuniversitario
> http://www.cilea.it/disclaimer
> _______________________________________________
> Koha-translate mailing list
> Koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> http://lists.koha-community.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/koha-translate
> website: www.koha-community.org
> git: git.koha-community.org
> bugs: bugs.koha-community.org
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From Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de  Tue May 29 17:01:04 2012
From: Katrin.Fischer at bsz-bw.de (Fischer, Katrin)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 17:01:04 +0200
Subject: [Koha-translate] [Arabic Koha] Extract po from template ?
In-Reply-To: <CAML=htattDnJ57mpDcHOyRTF=StqW3NwciZiZaWP19Yu+aoHRg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAML=htattDnJ57mpDcHOyRTF=StqW3NwciZiZaWP19Yu+aoHRg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <028B1A54D03E7B4482CDCA4EC8F06BFD020B87EE@Bodensee.bsz-bw.de>

Hi Karam, 

there is a bug about this problem in bugzilla:
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6709

The plugins for 006 and 008 can currently not be translated using po files. What you can do is adding your translated plugin to the plugin directory with a slightly different file name. After that you can configure your frameworks to use the translated plugin. This way the next update will not destroy your translations. You can also upload your translated file to the bug, so other people will be able to use it until the bug is properly fixed.

Katrin 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: koha-translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org [mailto:koha-
> translate-bounces at lists.koha-community.org] On Behalf Of Karam Qubsi
> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 11:06 AM
> To: koha-translate at lists.koha-community.org
> Cc: Fr?d?ric Demians
> Subject: [Koha-translate] [Arabic Koha] Extract po from template ?
> 
> Hi all ,
> We have a translated template which contain Arabic translations for
> 008 in marc , how can we convert this template to po and add it to the po
> files in the translation website
> 
> --
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