http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=4170 Summary: Online help, etc. for overduerules.pl is confusing Product: Koha Version: rel_3_2 Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: major Priority: P5 Component: Documentation AssignedTo: nengard@gmail.com ReportedBy: cnighswonger@foundations.edu Estimated Hours: 0.0 Change sponsored?: --- <kf> ah ok, there are some other bad things about notice triggers <kf> minimal value is 1 <kf> and dont use the default library - no notices will be sent <chris_n> kf: so the script does not process any notices with a delay of less than 1? <kf> got no notice when I tried with 0 <kf> only with 1 for the first notice <kf> this is the day after due date <kf> which is ok, because you can also sent itemdue and advances notices <kf> but a hint would be good <chris_n> kf: so if I want an advanced notice sent , it will not send until 1 day *after* the item is due? <kf> overdue notices <nengard> chris_n - you are missing the point - the advanced notice shouldn't be on that triggers page at all cause it's handled on the enhanced messaging preferences on the patron record <kf> advances notices are sent before due date <chris_n> nengard: big bug then :) <chris_n> a blocker imho <nengard> unless I too am misunderstanding <kf> I dont understand the problem <jwagner> I don't think it's a blocker, necessarily, but it definitely needs more explanatory text. <chris_n> kf: so if I set up an advanced notice do I have to set a delay? * chris_n is confused as to whether the functionality is broken or just the documentation <jwagner> chris_n, the delay is set in the patron record -- the Enhanced Messaging section. You can do a global db update to set the same delay for everyone. <kf> yes, or define the delay in patron type and import your new patrons after that :) <jwagner> If you edit the patron categories and set up your desired settings there for advance notice, holds, etc., then any time you create a new patron it will pick up the settings automatically. But there's no easy way short of a SQL update to modify existing records. <chris_n> so then what is the Delay field for on the overduerules.pl page? <kf> advanced notice = before due date and item due = due date are handled in advanced messaging, overdue notices in notice triggers <nengard> chris_n - it should only be for overdue notices, but that's the part that needs fixing <nengard> right now you can pick it for anything <jwagner> It's a documentation/screen display issue. <kf> for overdue notices, days after due date <jwagner> Ideally the notice triggers page should only filter/show overdue notices in the pulldowns. If that's not possible, at least some screen text about "this is only for overdue notices" <chris_n> so it sounds to me like the overduerules.pl page needs an overhaul <kf> jwagner: right. but its nice you can create as many notice templates as you want and choose there <jwagner> Right. As I said, I'm not logged in right now so I can't look. Is there anything in the settings that says "this notice is for overdues" as opposed to "this notice is for circ stuff"? I don't remember. <kf> perhaps a new option for notices - module overdue notices and show only those on notice triggers page <kf> i think it shows all from circulation <chris_n> I'm going to open two bugs then: one for the documentation and one for a general rework of overduerules.pl <jwagner> Then yes, kf, making a new notice modules just for overdues & having the notice triggers only show those would work. <kf> serials routing list and claim serial issues are already differnet modules, so its not really koha modules in this list -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla3/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are watching all bug changes.