[Bug 23609] New: Tie patron gender to an authorized value
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 Bug ID: 23609 Summary: Tie patron gender to an authorized value Change sponsored?: --- Product: Koha Version: 19.05 Hardware: All OS: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P5 - low Component: Patrons Assignee: koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org Reporter: andrew@bywatersolutions.com QA Contact: testopia@bugs.koha-community.org CC: gmcharlt@gmail.com, kyle.m.hall@gmail.com In the interest of allowing greater flexibility, it'd be great to have gender tied to an authorized value so libraries can edit/add/delete options. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |https://bugs.koha-community | |.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi | |?id=25364 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 Sally <sally.healey@cheshiresharedservices.gov.uk> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |sally.healey@cheshireshared | |services.gov.uk -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 Hayley Pelham <hayleypelham@catalyst.net.nz> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |hayleypelham@catalyst.net.n | |z -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 --- Comment #1 from Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrew@bywatersolutions.com> --- *** Bug 27540 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 Andrew Fuerste-Henry <andrewfh@dubcolib.org> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- See Also| |https://bugs.koha-community | |.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi | |?id=36340 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 Heather <heather_hernandez@nps.gov> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |heather_hernandez@nps.gov -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 Philip Orr <philip.orr@lmscloud.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |philip.orr@lmscloud.de --- Comment #2 from Philip Orr <philip.orr@lmscloud.de> --- Stumbled across this bug today. Currently the inputs for the radio button for patron gender have fixed labels in the template. If the patron gender would be tied to an authorized value, it would in that case be good to take the lib value for the label. In this case you would also need to allow for having more or less radio buttons to be used as inputs than the currently allowed 4. If I have more time soon I'll take a look at trying a patch. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 --- Comment #3 from Heather <heather_hernandez@nps.gov> --- We would need A Lot of choices--I'm all for authorized values (since they eliminate typos), but these are the pronouns in use by just people that I know and interact with in USian English--there are many others, of course! she/her he/him they/them she/they he/they xe/hir e/em she,he/they (use either she or he for singular) it/they fluid (no fixed pronouns--default to they) they (this is the common default when pronouns are unknown) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 --- Comment #4 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- Just a note that gender and pronouns are 2 separate fields in Koha now. I believe there is a separate bug for making the pronouns field use a drop down instead of being free text. A downside of authorised values is that they are not translatable. As this features quite prominently in the OPAC I wonder if using a multi-select system preference with most often used options could also do the trick? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 --- Comment #5 from Heather <heather_hernandez@nps.gov> --- Ah--thank you, Katrin! Our Koha doesn't have these two separate fields, and I just looked at the ByWater Demo staff interface, and it, too, has just the free text field, "Pronouns." We would then need authorized values for gender like these, and these are just the ones I can think of in use among people I know: Woman Man Non-binary Intersex Two Spirit I'll go comment on bug 36340! (I.e., "male" and "female" are biological terms, not gender terms--it's pretty offensive to call a woman "female" around here, for example, since it's biologically reductive.) (This is definitely problematic for translations, I'd think, since it's so variable even in regional USian English!) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 --- Comment #6 from Philip Orr <philip.orr@lmscloud.de> --- Thanks Heather for the US perspective! I was thinking along the German perspective, where it's somewhat legally required for government institutions (including libraries) to have the three options "male", "female" and "diverse". I guess the "diverse" is supposed to encapsulate any and all genders outside of just male/female. I myself would prefer the US perspective, but it's not a matter of debate for most German libraries AFAIK. If we were going to use a multiselect system preference with the "most commonly used" genders, it would be interesting to hear what other gender options would be needed for other countries as well. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes. You are the assignee for the bug.
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=23609 --- Comment #7 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- (In reply to Philip Orr from comment #6)
Thanks Heather for the US perspective! I was thinking along the German perspective, where it's somewhat legally required for government institutions (including libraries) to have the three options "male", "female" and "diverse". I guess the "diverse" is supposed to encapsulate any and all genders outside of just male/female. I myself would prefer the US perspective, but it's not a matter of debate for most German libraries AFAIK. If we were going to use a multiselect system preference with the "most commonly used" genders, it would be interesting to hear what other gender options would be needed for other countries as well.
+1 Thanks Heather for the perspective, it's really interesting! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
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