http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10378 --- Comment #1 from Kyle M Hall <kyle@bywatersolutions.com> --- Created attachment 18476 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=18476&action=edit Bug 10378 - Enable checked out items to be transferred without returning them When items are transferred, they are automatically returned to the transferred-from library. Some libraries would like to be able to use the transfer system without automatically returning the item and having it removed from the patron record. Scenario: LibraryA of multi-library system is checking in items from the overnight dropbox. The librarian pulls out a damaged item, but it is an item owned and checked out from LibraryB. Instead of removing the item from the patrons checked out items, the library would like to transfer the item, still checked out, back to LibraryB so that LibraryB may decide how to deal with the damaged item. Test Plan: 1) Apply this patch 2) Run updatedatabase.pl 3) Ensure that ReturnItemWhenTransferred is enabled 4) Check an item out to a borrower 5) Transfer the item to another library 6) Verify the item was returned and removed from the patron's issues 7) Disable ReturnItemWhenTransferred 8) Check an item out to a borrower 9) Transfer the item to another library 10) Verify the item is still listed in the patron's current issues -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10378 --- Comment #3 from Kyle M Hall <kyle@bywatersolutions.com> --- Created attachment 18478 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=18478&action=edit Bug 10378 - Enable checked out items to be transferred without returning them [ v3.10.05 ] When items are transferred, they are automatically returned to the transferred-from library. Some libraries would like to be able to use the transfer system without automatically returning the item and having it removed from the patron record. Scenario: LibraryA of multi-library system is checking in items from the overnight dropbox. The librarian pulls out a damaged item, but it is an item owned and checked out from LibraryB. Instead of removing the item from the patrons checked out items, the library would like to transfer the item, still checked out, back to LibraryB so that LibraryB may decide how to deal with the damaged item. Test Plan: 1) Apply this patch 2) Run updatedatabase.pl 3) Ensure that ReturnItemWhenTransferred is enabled 4) Check an item out to a borrower 5) Transfer the item to another library 6) Verify the item was returned and removed from the patron's issues 7) Disable ReturnItemWhenTransferred 8) Check an item out to a borrower 9) Transfer the item to another library 10) Verify the item is still listed in the patron's current issues -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10378 --- Comment #4 from Galen Charlton <gmcharlt@gmail.com> --- Exploring the consequences a bit ... the libraries in question are OK with the possibility that the loan might incur overdue fines while in transit back to the owning library? And they *always* want manual transits to not check the item in? If the answer to the second question is along the lines of "on a case-by-case basis", I wonder if the syspref should simply enable the _option_ of transiting without returning, in conjunction with a checkbox (and possibly a user permission) for a circ staffer to indicate that a particular loan should not be checked in. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.

http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=10378 --- Comment #5 from Kyle M Hall <kyle.m.hall@gmail.com> --- That's not a bad idea. However, another issue is that Koha has simply not been written with the idea an item can be checkout out and in transit at the same time. It appears that there are parts of Koha that will assume a checked out item isn't being transferred and not display the in transit message. I think this idea only half-baked and needs some followups, if it is to be pushed. (In reply to comment #4)

Exploring the consequences a bit ... the libraries in question are OK with the possibility that the loan might incur overdue fines while in transit back to the owning library? And they *always* want manual transits to not check the item in?

If the answer to the second question is along the lines of "on a case-by-case basis", I wonder if the syspref should simply enable the _option_ of transiting without returning, in conjunction with a checkbox (and possibly a user permission) for a circ staffer to indicate that a particular loan should not be checked in.

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