[Bug 8801] New: Offer to batch delete items of a biblio record
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Priority: P5 - low Change sponsored?: --- Bug ID: 8801 CC: m.de.rooy@rijksmuseum.nl Assignee: gmcharlt@gmail.com Summary: Offer to batch delete items of a biblio record Severity: enhancement Classification: Unclassified OS: All Reporter: julian.maurice@biblibre.com Hardware: All Status: NEW Version: master Component: Cataloging Product: Koha Will add a link in 'Edit' menu to go directly to batch deletion of items. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|NEW |Needs Signoff Assignee|gmcharlt@gmail.com |julian.maurice@biblibre.com --- Comment #1 from Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> --- Created attachment 12428 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12428&action=edit Bug 8801: Add menu entry to delete items in batch In catalogue/detail.pl you can now select "Delete items in batch" in "Edit" menu. You are redirected to batchMod.pl for chosing which items have to be deleted. You need to have 'tools.items_batchdel' permission to see this menu entry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Marc Véron <veron@veron.ch> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #12428|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #2 from Marc Véron <veron@veron.ch> --- Created attachment 12459 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12459&action=edit [SIGNED-OFF] Bug 8801: Add menu entry to delete items in batch In catalogue/detail.pl you can now select "Delete items in batch" in "Edit" menu. You are redirected to batchMod.pl for chosing which items have to be deleted. You need to have 'tools.items_batchdel' permission to see this menu entry. Signed-off-by: Marc Veron <veron@veron.ch> Works as expected. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Marc Véron <veron@veron.ch> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Needs Signoff |Signed Off CC| |veron@veron.ch -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Signed Off |Passed QA CC| |paul.poulain@biblibre.com --- Comment #3 from Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> --- QA comment * tiny patch (almost template-only) that adds a feature with no side-effect risk * passes koha-qa.pl Passed QA -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Passed QA |Pushed to Master Version|master |rel_3_10 --- Comment #4 from Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> --- Patch pushed to master -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #5 from Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> --- Side question= is the "delete all items" still needed in the "Edit" button ? (I suspect no) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |nengard@gmail.com --- Comment #6 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- I think we only need one or the other ... not both. Nicole -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #7 from Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> --- Created attachment 12767 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12767&action=edit Bug 8801: Remove 'Delete all items' menu entry -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Pushed to Master |ASSIGNED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |Needs Signoff -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #12459|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #8 from Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> --- Comment on attachment 12459 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=12459 [SIGNED-OFF] Bug 8801: Add menu entry to delete items in batch First patch obsoleted as it's already in master -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #9 from Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> --- QA comment: Julian, this patch is not enough : if the link is removed, the feature must be removed as well (everything related to delallitems in additem.pl I think) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Needs Signoff |ASSIGNED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #12767|0 |1 is obsolete| | --- Comment #10 from Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> --- Created attachment 13096 --> http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/attachment.cgi?id=13096&action=edit Bug 8801: Remove 'Delete all items' menu entry and code in catalogue/additem.pl related to 'delallitems' operation. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|ASSIGNED |Needs Signoff -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de --- Comment #11 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- Hm, has someone compared how many clicks it takes to delete a record with more than one item between the old and the new way of doing things? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #12 from Katrin Fischer <katrin.fischer@bsz-bw.de> --- There is something about this change that I don't like, I am trying to figure it out. Another reason I have come up with is permissions. Batch item delete is a mighty feature I might not want to give every staff member permission to use. While deleting items and records is something a lot of people might be allowed to do depending on the edit items and cataloging permissions. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |chris@bigballofwax.co.nz --- Comment #13 from Chris Cormack <chris@bigballofwax.co.nz> --- (In reply to comment #12)
There is something about this change that I don't like, I am trying to figure it out. Another reason I have come up with is permissions. Batch item delete is a mighty feature I might not want to give every staff member permission to use. While deleting items and records is something a lot of people might be allowed to do depending on the edit items and cataloging permissions.
I agree, I might want to just delete all items from a record, I dont want to have to go and batch delete it, im already on the record :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #14 from Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> --- So if I resume: Paul and Nicole think one link is better than two. Katrin and Chris wants to keep the "delete all items" Anyone else ? :-) Paul and Nicole, what do you think after reading Katrin and Chris comments? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #15 from Owen Leonard <oleonard@myacpl.org> --- (In reply to comment #13)
I agree, I might want to just delete all items from a record, I dont want to have to go and batch delete it, im already on the record :)
I second this. The immediacy of the "delete all items" option is useful and familiar to current users. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #16 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- I figured my opinion doesn't matter as much as the opinion of the librarians so I solicited some feedback. Here's the first answer I got: -------- Hi, Nicole-- I use "Delete all items" (from the "Edit" menu on a record) all the time when weeding. When looking at the details for a record, I can verify the barcode(s), verify that I have the correct item(s), and then it's just easy enough to click through everything to delete all items and the bib record, but without being *too* easy!:) I would absolutely hate to have to move off of the record to go into a Batch Item Deletion for weeding--I would have to verify that I'm deleting the correct items all over again, and go into an area in the catalog that is not needed for normal cataloging & technical services operations. Also, frankly, we don't find Batch Item Deletion useful for weeding or much of anything else--we never use it. The search interface is cludgy, compared to just tweeping a barcode in the Advanced Search screen (where one can select the barcode index), or just searching for the title if the entire title and all its items are being weeded. If certain items are being weeded off of a title, we think this should be done very carefully, and is best done via the Edit Items function off of the record where we can see all the items, and use the "find" function of the browser with our barcode reader to locate the correct item for deletion, which is very fast--but not *too* fast! It's just, "tweep!" "click" (then the next item on the title, etc.) Chris Cormack's comment, "I agree, I might want to just delete all items from a record, I dont want to have to go and batch delete it, im already on the record :)" is right on the money, IMO. If people really want to go to Batch Item Deletion from the record display in the staff client, it's just three clicks away ("More," "Tools," "Batch item deletion"). If people really like to have it handy, they can just have a tab in their browser opened to it, no? I really, really hope that everything is either left as is, or one will be able to choose to reveal a link to Batch Item Deletion in the "Edit" menu--or not--in the Koha Administration. Thanks, heather P.S. Feel free to share my comments on the Bugzilla or anywhere. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #17 from Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> --- So, everyone agree that we could just obsolete the two previous patches and reset bug status to pushed to master, leaving the two menu entries 'Delete all items' and 'Delete items in batch' ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #18 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- Another comment from a librarian using Koha: "I agree. When there is a ‘’delete items in batch’’ button, we do not need ‘’delete all items’’ option any more." -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #19 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- And another: " I think only one button is necessary." -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #20 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- Another: I agree with keeping both buttons. There is a time and place for both depending on the permissions of the people needing those buttons and the task at hand. Those needing to use these buttons will not find them confusing. If functionality is already there and working well, why remove it and force users to use features not intuitive to their task. My vote is to keep the two buttons. Thanks for listening. Cathi Wiggins Arcadia Public Library -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 SJeffery <steven_jeffery@fmi.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |steven_jeffery@fmi.com --- Comment #21 from SJeffery <steven_jeffery@fmi.com> --- We would prefer to keep the existing "delete all items" button as it is still more efficient to use than the batch delete function. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #22 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- "I second everything Cathi wrote. Catherine Callegari, Director" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #23 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- "We agree that keeping both buttons is the best option." -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 --- Comment #24 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- (In reply to comment #17)
So, everyone agree that we could just obsolete the two previous patches and reset bug status to pushed to master, leaving the two menu entries 'Delete all items' and 'Delete items in batch' ?
It does look that way - most people using it seem to prefer to keep both of them. Nicole -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attachment #13096|0 |1 is obsolete| | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Needs Signoff |Signed Off -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Signed Off |Passed QA -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Passed QA |Pushed to Master --- Comment #25 from Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> --- Patch obsoleted, reset status to Pushed to master -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Offer to batch delete items |Offer to batch delete items |of a biblio record |of a bibliographic record -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=8801 Julian Maurice <julian.maurice@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Status|Pushed to Master |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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