[Bug 6685] New: circ rules by groups of items
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6685 Bug #: 6685 Summary: circ rules by groups of items Classification: Unclassified Change sponsored?: --- Product: Koha Version: master Platform: All OS/Version: All Status: NEW Severity: enhancement Priority: P5 Component: Circulation AssignedTo: kyle.m.hall@gmail.com ReportedBy: nengard@gmail.com QAContact: koha-bugs@lists.koha-community.org CC: gmcharlt@gmail.com I have had two libraries mention this recently so I thought I'd put it out there as possible enhancement to Koha. "We have about 10 item types that are "media" (CDs, DVDs, records, etc.). Our circulation department would like to restrict checkouts to three media items total, not three of each kind." I'm thinking we would need a way to group item types together into a general 'type' so that we can set rules on groups of item types as well as on a per type level. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA Contact for the bug.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6685 Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |paul.poulain@biblibre.com --- Comment #1 from Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> 2011-08-09 14:31:55 UTC --- Is it a needed enhancement ? couldn't you just use ccode and itype for that ? ccode = CD / DVD / records / ... itype = short checkout / long checkout / very long checkout (for example) when you create items, you have 2 fields to fill = "CD / short checkout" or "book / long checkout"(for example I'm sure you'll say "yes, but libraries don't want to enter 2 fields, they could do a mistake" In this case, just develop a small plugin to fill valueB when valueA has been selected. I'm sure someone knowing how to do that would need one hour for such a plugin ! -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA Contact for the bug.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6685 --- Comment #2 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> 2011-08-09 15:31:49 UTC --- Paul, The reasoning was this: Patrons are allowed a total of 3 media items checked out but CDs can be checked out for 10 days and DVDs for 3 days and Records for 5 days ... understand why we'd need a group for a 'max checkouts'? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA Contact for the bug.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6685 --- Comment #3 from Paul Poulain <paul.poulain@biblibre.com> 2011-08-09 15:36:28 UTC --- does this library know the word "simplicity" ;-) not sure this kind of rules is easy to understand for a patron... but I agree if it's needed it require some dev (and probably not a small&quick one ! -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA Contact for the bug.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6685 --- Comment #4 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> 2011-08-09 15:44:57 UTC --- I agree that it's not easy but as for the patrons, the point is that they don't have to worry about the rules ;) Koha does the calculating for them. Just an eye that was worth throwing out there. Nicole -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA Contact for the bug.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6685 Margo Duncan <mduncan@uttyler.edu> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |mduncan@uttyler.edu --- Comment #5 from Margo Duncan <mduncan@uttyler.edu> 2011-08-10 02:30:14 UTC --- I think that if CCODE was something we could limit on in the circ rules that would fix our problem--we could put all those media item types in a CCODE of "media" and set the rules for patrons in that way. I understand Paul's suggestion of creating item types that reflect the length of time something circulates, rather than reflecting the physical item type. However, most our items circulate for one semester, three weeks or one week depending upon the patron type, not the itype. That's my two cents on what would work for us. Margo -- Configure bugmail: http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are the QA Contact for the bug.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6685 --- Comment #6 from Nicole C. Engard <nengard@gmail.com> --- *** Bug 8327 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the QA Contact for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6685 Olli-Antti Kivilahti <olli-antti.kivilahti@jns.fi> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |olli-antti.kivilahti@jns.fi --- Comment #7 from Olli-Antti Kivilahti <olli-antti.kivilahti@jns.fi> --- We normally use itype to calculate circulation rules, but needed a solution to set some items to shorter circulation duration (shortloan "SHLO") and some to even more shorter (quickloan "QILO"). So we made ccodes SHLO and QILO and set them in the C4-modules to their respective durations when circulation rules were checked. Obviously this is not a very good solution and I am looking for a way to generalize that a bit so we could get that feature to master :) Do you think giving items a new attribute, "loan duration", which would essentially give the normal circulation duration some variation, would work for others as well? Loan duration could be for ex "short" , "quick" , "normal" , "long" , "epoch" , "forever". Then in the cgi-bin/koha/admin/smart-rules.pl we could set the "Loan period" for each of the available "Loan duration"s. So for DVD's with short duration period is 7days, normal is 14days , epoch is 28 days ... Sounds fair? Also should be some some flag about whether or not those durations can be renewed/reserved? How does it sound like? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the QA Contact for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6685 --- Comment #8 from Olli-Antti Kivilahti <olli-antti.kivilahti@jns.fi> --- Or we could allow setting circulation rules for itemtype and ccode, prefering ccode if it is available? So no longer having to choose itype or ccode? Maybe giving ability to syspref whether to prefer ccode or itype. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the QA Contact for the bug. You are watching all bug changes.
http://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=6685 Marjorie Barry-Vila <marjorie.barry-vila@ccsr.qc.ca> changed: What |Removed |Added ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CC| |marjorie.barry-vila@ccsr.qc | |.ca -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
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